2016 Postmortem

Cali_Democrat

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1. Bernocchio Sanders is not a Dem and was never a Dem.

Reply to kennetha (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:52 AM

Apr 2016

When he says he's a Dem, it's just another lie.

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The Idea that Bernie is a Democrat at heart is sort of laughable [View all] kennetha Apr 2016 OP

Bernocchio Sanders is not a Dem and was never a Dem. Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #1

Did Bernie say he was a democrat? Perogie Apr 2016 #5

Yes Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #11

Then he is a democrat. Perogie Apr 2016 #18

True. He registered, therefore is technically a Democrat. Hortensis Apr 2016 #39

You must be an awfully young and uninformed person to think he is an extremist of any kind Dragonfli Apr 2016 #44

Personality, Dragonflies. Personality. Hortensis Apr 2016 #49

The politics of personality is the problem, one should hold ideals and do so consistently Dragonfli Apr 2016 #55

Our personalities are hard wired by genetics, Hortensis Apr 2016 #77

Eugenics now? I chang my mind, you go your way, I'll go my way but Eugenics gets you the ignore list Dragonfli Apr 2016 #82

Sounds good. :) Hortensis Apr 2016 #87

I'm supporting Hillary for the nomination Arneoker Apr 2016 #195

Sure. Would you like to discuss the far right? Hortensis Apr 2016 #196

You do know that the Political Compass has a self-professed libertarian bias, right? baldguy Apr 2016 #50

I know you don't appear to know what you are talking about , other than that.... Dragonfli Apr 2016 #56

I posted a graph sourced from the same site you posted a graph. baldguy Apr 2016 #68

What it listed was a top of the graph fascist, appears correct to me.. Dragonfli Apr 2016 #70

You either can't read graphs, or are woefully ignorant of the sources you use baldguy Apr 2016 #94

First of all she is neoliberal, not liberal, and he is basically on the center regarding neoliberal Dragonfli Apr 2016 #101

Funny, I don't see a "neoliberal" axis on the graph you can't seem to read. baldguy Apr 2016 #103

It is listed on the graph you posted, so I don't really know what to tell you Dragonfli Apr 2016 #108

Is Hitler more liberal than Clinton? It's a simple yes or no question. baldguy Apr 2016 #117

I laugh when I see that chart... JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #188

The first accurate chart in this entire thread! Sancho Apr 2016 #194

Sick of that manipulated chart JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #143

Sorry tpo burst your "I thunk it myself" bubble, but those charts NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #176

Bullshit JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #183

... NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #184

I gave more thought to your chart. JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #187

Love it! workinclasszero Apr 2016 #197

OMG ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #198

LOL! treestar Apr 2016 #201

This message was self-deleted by its author rbrnmw Apr 2016 #193

Exactly treestar Apr 2016 #200

wow that's a far tale Perogie Apr 2016 #90

Absolutely Yuuuge failure on the OP's attempt... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #110

Why? he's always caucused with the Democrats, he is more a Democrat than most in the party re issues Dragonfli Apr 2016 #43

Mere convenience kennetha Apr 2016 #81

How convenient that he not only voted with them but the party promoted him to Dragonfli Apr 2016 #85

Read much? kennetha Apr 2016 #89

I have been an avid reader for over fifty years, but your opinion pieces aren't very good. Dragonfli Apr 2016 #92

Damn straight! Jennylynn Apr 2016 #157

This message was self-deleted by its author imari362 Apr 2016 #179

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2016 #57

The first of soooo many lies. FarPoint Apr 2016 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author imari362 Apr 2016 #180

Freeloading hitchihiker: It's what he has done with 1/2 of his life Sheepshank Apr 2016 #186

I don't subscribe to GDP so get called to juries several times a day JustAnotherGen Apr 2016 #120

He is more of a true democrat than you will ever be. phleshdef Apr 2016 #127

So what? Very few voters give a sh*t. In fact, that is a huge selling point with millions! imagine2015 Apr 2016 #158

Not a Dem never was never will be. nt fun n serious Apr 2016 #199

I think he represents my Democratic values quite well. We can move the party back to where it should uppityperson Apr 2016 #2

I'm With You noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #7

Gee, when I said something like this the Bernie folks attacked. kennetha Apr 2016 #104

So Harry Truman's healthcare program is now "militantly leftist". Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #123

Wholeheartedly Ditto! dchill Apr 2016 #53

That's not what he's been saying most of his career. kennetha Apr 2016 #84

I disagree with much of what you wrote uppityperson Apr 2016 #146

You realize that these are Bernie Sanders words, right? Direct Quote kennetha Apr 2016 #147

Hah! No, I didn't. When are they from? That's pretty funny. uppityperson Apr 2016 #148

Here kennetha Apr 2016 #149

Thank you. I guess he evolved. uppityperson Apr 2016 #150

yes it is because I don't think he has claimed to be a democrat. Perogie Apr 2016 #3

"I don't think he has claimed to be a democrat" Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #22

Why Did he Run as A democrat? kennetha Apr 2016 #86

Everyone Knows Why He's Running as a Democrat noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #140

He's a progressive ram2008 Apr 2016 #4

Check out this Excellent Piece noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #8

I agree with Sanders... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #6

Check out this Excellent Piece noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #9

Sanders has never, until now, counted himself any kind of Democrat ... kennetha Apr 2016 #93

Caucasing with Democrats in the U.S. Senate? jonestonesusa Apr 2016 #121

mostly his wins are fuel by independents, Trumpets and other rootless types. kennetha Apr 2016 #125

Rootless types? jonestonesusa Apr 2016 #129

From what you write, I'd say, as a Democrat for over 47 years, that you've become enraptured highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #10

FDR was a moderate nt fun n serious Apr 2016 #15

Not compared to the Clintons. He would have had them for breakfast. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #16

+1000 Kittycat Apr 2016 #17

+1000 more Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #191

Here's more kennetha Apr 2016 #12

FDR ...LBJ ..Bernie. deepestblue Apr 2016 #13

Who cares? I voted for him when he was an I and I voted for him as a D. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #14

if he's not, then I'm not either Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #19

What is a party beyond just a way of getting people elected. LostOne4Ever Apr 2016 #20

Bernie is absolutely our best choice to win the White House, gain in Congress, correspond with highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #25

How is Bernie going to help us regain the Senate and/or the Congress kennetha Apr 2016 #28

Enthusiastic voters voting for a platform they really believe in behind leaders they can trust. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #31

So you don't want to support the candidates currently running on the democratic ticket kennetha Apr 2016 #76

Trying to trap me or something? No, I support whom I like, which means Progressive Democrats. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #171

Thanks, highprincipleswork, that is so nice. senz Apr 2016 #34

So well said, LostOne4Ever senz Apr 2016 #30

So? What disagreement do you have with his assessments? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #21

I'd like to see kennetha answer your question. Martin Eden Apr 2016 #109

He's an FDR Democrat from "the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party" senz Apr 2016 #23

Comparing Bernie to LBJ is laughable too kennetha Apr 2016 #26

Okay first senz didn't compare him to LBJ and second: the people's spew? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #27

I know, I couldn't figure out where that came from... senz Apr 2016 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author Puglover Apr 2016 #95

Yeah, Bernie is no LBJ Mnpaul Apr 2016 #66

Bernie is a better man than LBJ phleshdef Apr 2016 #128

Thank you rurallib Apr 2016 #62

Bernie is a progressive at heart, which is what matters. Kall Apr 2016 #24

Did I see you in Dr. Strangelove? nt Bonobo Apr 2016 #29

It's only strange if you equate being a Democrat at heart Ken Burch Apr 2016 #33

It's got that "America love it or leave it" ring, doesn't it? senz Apr 2016 #35

liberal socialist feminist womanist anarchist activist Kalidurga Apr 2016 #36

Generally, I find actions speak louder than labels. n/t Beartracks Apr 2016 #37

Right. Like when Sanders & his minions use RW fascist propaganda to attack Democrats. baldguy Apr 2016 #51

Yeah, right wing propaganda like "corporations have too much power" and "expand Social Security" Armstead Apr 2016 #72

RW propaganda like "Hillary is a corrupt liar" and "There's no difference between Dems & the GOP". baldguy Apr 2016 #88

If someone likes and admires the Clinton fine. No problem. Armstead Apr 2016 #91

Maybe not right wing themselves kennetha Apr 2016 #99

Right. Real progressives & Democrats are smarter than average, and better at recognizing bullshit. baldguy Apr 2016 #106

Do you want to grow the party or have an exclusive club? hellofromreddit Apr 2016 #38

Funny how you people cannot look at anything beyond a label. coyote Apr 2016 #40

He's the only person running who has never been a Republican. Tiggeroshii Apr 2016 #41

^^^No one else running can say that.^^^ -none Apr 2016 #160

Why? he's always caucused with the Democrats, he is more a Democrat than most in the party re issues Dragonfli Apr 2016 #42

That's not how Bernie thinks of himself. kennetha Apr 2016 #107

the idea that being a Democrat at heart means anything today is laughable bowens43 Apr 2016 #45

If he isn't, then, I want to be in the party he is in. glowing Apr 2016 #46

And your point? morningfog Apr 2016 #47

I've always found it a fucking laugh riot... Chan790 Apr 2016 #48

seriously kennetha Apr 2016 #97

You forgot to mention that Bernie is the most liberal senator. senz Apr 2016 #136

The Democratic party is leaving me. mainer Apr 2016 #52

JURY RESULTS: 2-5 to LEAVE IT. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #54

Sanders Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum comments pester me Gothmog Apr 2016 #58

Nader is an asshole -- But he was right about the two political parties Armstead Apr 2016 #63

"not a dime's worth of difference"? redstateblues Apr 2016 #80

On core systemic issues? Maybe a quarters worth Armstead Apr 2016 #83

There are major difference that the Sanders and Nader supporters are ignoring Gothmog Apr 2016 #154

Well if you may find some of them from me too Armstead Apr 2016 #156

Nader is indeed an asshole Gothmog Apr 2016 #169

It's sad that anybody believes that mythology Apr 2016 #132

It should be a clear and obvious set of vast differences not a matter of nuance and parsings.... Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #139

I am living in a state suffering from the gutting of Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act Gothmog Apr 2016 #133

You are missing or ignoring the point Armstead Apr 2016 #137

So do you approve of the Citizens United decision that is due to Nader? Gothmog Apr 2016 #151

I don't think this post has the effect you were hoping for ProfessorPlum Apr 2016 #59

+1 dchill Apr 2016 #65

On Bernie backers? kennetha Apr 2016 #100

why do you think spamming the thread with this helps? Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #145

He can call himself an NFL Linebacker for all I care. He represents DEMOCRACY Armstead Apr 2016 #60

I'd be willing to bet that Bernie Proud Public Servant Apr 2016 #61

boy, you hit the nail on the head ProfessorPlum Apr 2016 #69

He was ranked #8 in the Senate Mnpaul Apr 2016 #75

Tell that to Bernie kennetha Apr 2016 #98

Again, I think this just proves his point ProfessorPlum Apr 2016 #173

Bernie personifies what many liberals want the D Party to be thebeautifulstruggle Apr 2016 #64

thank you! Exactly what I was going to say. CTyankee Apr 2016 #115

Since a lot of the Democrats drifted passed the center to Republican Lite Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #67

He's what a Democrat used to be and should be. Vinca Apr 2016 #71

Republicans won't and they don't. -none Apr 2016 #161

That's my point. Vinca Apr 2016 #162

Just trying to clarify a bit. -none Apr 2016 #164

whatevs Hiraeth Apr 2016 #74

A Clinton "Democrat": Total Bill and Hillary speech income $153,000,000 kristopher Apr 2016 #78

A lot of Clinton supporters are laughable Democrats too. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #79

Your long screeds are what are laughable. HERVEPA Apr 2016 #96

Sanders has admitted: Wanted media coverage -so signed into the Democratic Party. It is not riversedge Apr 2016 #102

There have always been two kinds of people that join a political party DefenseLawyer Apr 2016 #105

You forgot a third kind -- the Bernie kind kennetha Apr 2016 #112

I was actually talking about party members more than politicians DefenseLawyer Apr 2016 #165

The Idea that a Goldwater Girl is a Democrat at heart is sort of laughable krawhitham Apr 2016 #111

right, people are finished developing politically at 16 years old. kennetha Apr 2016 #113

Well I was never president of my college's Young Republicans chapter krawhitham Apr 2016 #118

Democratic Party used to embrace socialist principles Goblinmonger Apr 2016 #114

When was that? kennetha Apr 2016 #116

Did i say they self identified as a socialist? Goblinmonger Apr 2016 #119

Yes Sanders does kennetha Apr 2016 #122

What he is, is a good decent, moral person who ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #124

I pledge allegiance to the Democratic party SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #126

Of course Bernie isn't a democrat. He's running as a democrat. I think at first it was just to pull Autumn Apr 2016 #130

Meh Bjornsdotter Apr 2016 #131

Lol! That's it? That's all you can find? KPN Apr 2016 #134

I read all that SheenaR Apr 2016 #135

You know who fails to criticize their own Party? Republicans. And look at that Party today. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #138

By your thinking were FDR or LBJ Democrats? libtodeath Apr 2016 #141

To quote Hillary, "What difference does it make?" thesquanderer Apr 2016 #142

He is a small d Democrat AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #144

OMG who the hell cares? Lucky Luciano Apr 2016 #152

That you believe Hillary is a Democrat is laughable Politicalboi Apr 2016 #153

This whole discussion is ridiculous Z_California Apr 2016 #155

Thanks for those excellent excerpts of Bernie's thinking. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #159

I know, right? ProfessorPlum Apr 2016 #174

I suppose stuff like this is really important to people who need to feel a sense of belonging. frylock Apr 2016 #163

Bernie is a FDR Democrat, Clinton is a Ronald Regan Democrat...nuff said! angstlessk Apr 2016 #166

Damn, your helpful collection of quotes only solidifies... SMC22307 Apr 2016 #167

KNR Lucinda Apr 2016 #168

Better than any Democrat I've ever had the opportunity to vote for, Jerry Brown is a distant 2nd. Umbral18 Apr 2016 #170

You'd rather vote for Kim Davis than Bernie. Gotcha Scootaloo Apr 2016 #172

Not just Davis, the OP seems to support the 5 NC Democrats who voted for the anti trans, anti gay Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #181

"sort of"???? I think we can be quite sure that is not the case. DrDan Apr 2016 #175

Disabuse yourself of the notion that "Democrat" is a check mark on an index card. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #177

All ideas and values I hold as a Democrat randr Apr 2016 #178

Not sure why this would really matter. nt revbones Apr 2016 #182

The difference between the parties is not so deep that Lint Head Apr 2016 #185

I completely agree, which is why I wont be one either if he's not nominated Joob Apr 2016 #189

I heard he supports no payday lending predators, no private prisons, no trade races to the bottom Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #190

So when he caucused with us to give us a Senate majority by one vote Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #192

I'd like to see single payer Jarqui Apr 2016 #202