2016 Postmortem

Eric J in MN

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103. Bernie Sanders didn't take money from the NRA.

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:34 AM

Apr 2016

Last edited Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:01 AM - Edit history (1)

In 1990, the NRA sent out a mailer promoting him without his permission.

They never did that before or since. His most recent rating from the NRA is D-.

He won the 1990 election by 16.5 percentage points. I doubt he felt that a last minute NRA mailer, after most people had made up their minds, gave him the election.

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The Pervasive Dishonesty of Bernie Sanders [View all] bravenak Apr 2016 OP

Your link doesn't work Red Oak Apr 2016 #1

DU breaks links with @ signs. Try this one Recursion Apr 2016 #6

Got it. Thanks. Just a Bernie hit piece. Red Oak Apr 2016 #14

The truth is usually a "hit piece." nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #111

So is a stinking pile of bullshit Red Oak Apr 2016 #115

At least too often. That is the POINT. Hortensis Apr 2016 #175

WashPost gave Sanders 3 (!) Pinocchios for Hortensis Apr 2016 #206

And yours isn't a Clinton "hit piece"? George II Apr 2016 #187

Is she lying? Red Oak Apr 2016 #194

That's okay, the argument doesn't work either. n/t hughee99 Apr 2016 #199

Hillary is the dishonest one jfern Apr 2016 #2

They're not mutually exclusive. lovemydog Apr 2016 #45

Bernie isn't perfect, but Hillary has been quite dishonest recently jfern Apr 2016 #47

You're entitled to you opinion lovemydog Apr 2016 #50

Hillary has repeatedly attacked Bernie with lies jfern Apr 2016 #54

We see it somewhat differently. lovemydog Apr 2016 #59

Well, there wouldn't be much talk of issues if Bernie wasn't running jfern Apr 2016 #69

Certainly less of the ones that mean the most lovemydog Apr 2016 #74

+1, Sander is losing more than just this primary... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #3

what does that mean? don't be coy,spit it out. hollysmom Apr 2016 #7

peoples respect for one, he's sounding like just another side of the same coin uponit7771 Apr 2016 #12

speak for yourself, unless you have documented proof. hollysmom Apr 2016 #15

lobbies money from wall street uponit7771 Apr 2016 #21

The OP is written by a man who sits on the board of a Prisons for Profit company. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #189

What A LIE IS THIS POST No Matter WHat The Link Says! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #4

"If Bernie loses, VOTE FOR TRUMP!" baldguy Apr 2016 #23

I do not waste my time on Naderites bravenak Apr 2016 #24

Nor do I. lovemydog Apr 2016 #56

"Also don't waste my time on people who brag about not voting." SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #72

+1000 bravenak Apr 2016 #139

The sage Susan Sarandon. Thanks for Dubya, your brightness. oasis Apr 2016 #28

Videos are the worst possible way to make an argument Recursion Apr 2016 #37

Heh. nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #73

Seriously? dchill Apr 2016 #5

It goes to an article with exactly the OP's subject line Recursion Apr 2016 #9

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #30

Another lying blogger shilling for Hillary, what a shock beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #8

Nobody "takes money from the NRA" per se, but they campaigned for him, which costs money Recursion Apr 2016 #13

The. NRA doesn't donate to campaigns? Really? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #19

They CAN spend money on ads. bravenak Apr 2016 #25

The blogger lied, he's another keyboard warrior who just wants to smear Bernie beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #42

Really, the NRA does not donate to campaigns Recursion Apr 2016 #27

WaPo: How the NRA exerts influence over Congress beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #41

"Campaign expenditures" -- that's not donations, and that's money Sanders got in '90 Recursion Apr 2016 #44

From open secrets, contribututions to house and senate members 1990, where's Bernie's name?: beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #46

Then opensecrets is wrong, because they definitely ran those ads Recursion Apr 2016 #48

Bullshit, he never received money from the NRA. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #49

So, seriously, you actually think those ads and mailers were free? Recursion Apr 2016 #51

Those weren't donations, try to avoid using strawman arguments then yukking it up like you scored. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #55

They. Don't. Make. Donations. Recursion Apr 2016 #58

So those were illegal contributions? Why didn't they illegally donate to Bernie? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #60

They were campaign expenditures, which at the time were not capped Recursion Apr 2016 #63

Right. They just forgot to expend any on Bernie. WHEEEEEEEE! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #66

so by your logic beedle Apr 2016 #205

So Bernie is guilty of "getting money" from the NRA, yet you post this .... Scuba Apr 2016 #191

What hypocrisy? I'm saying the exact same thing in both posts Recursion Apr 2016 #192

uummm at 10:09am this morning you thought clinton did questionseverything Apr 2016 #204

The OP is pimping a guy who profits from the school-to-prison pipeline... SMC22307 Apr 2016 #61

Figures. How does he feel about Jews? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #64

Site owners seem to be turning a blind eye. SMC22307 Apr 2016 #68

Not much they can do about links.They did ban one rabid anti-Semitic Hillary supporter though: beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #71

I had her pegged from the get-go, and that PPR was long overdue. SMC22307 Apr 2016 #76

Indeed. I have heard of instances where they banned people for what they posted elsewhere. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #78

LOL! I almost added... SMC22307 Apr 2016 #82

Good idea, I'd better add a disclaimer. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #86

You did... "Orwell"! LOL SMC22307 Apr 2016 #90

It took a year. I had a few posts hidden for calling that bigot out but it was worth it. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #182

I remember, no one should get their posts hidden for calling out bigoted trolls. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #200

Scottie...I salute you... Docreed2003 Apr 2016 #163

Well thank you very much. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #164

Your dishonest swiftboating is not working and will not work! Go,Bernie, go, in WI and NY and CA! highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #10

Apparently I'm not the liar bravenak Apr 2016 #17

No the blogger you cited is. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #20

Tell him then bravenak Apr 2016 #22

No one said Bernie is perfect jfern Apr 2016 #36

way to stand by the utter crap you post here. Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #173

Why don't you say the same thing about the two "swiftboating" videos of Clinton? George II Apr 2016 #188

Straight demagogue alcibiades_mystery Apr 2016 #11

Yep bravenak Apr 2016 #18

And he's Jewish!!?!?!! dchill Apr 2016 #40

Among my Sanders supporter friends lovemydog Apr 2016 #87

OP poster has had some issues with Sanders' ... dchill Apr 2016 #92

I don't see that mentioned in this thread. fun n serious Apr 2016 #101

+ a damn million Number23 Apr 2016 #43

"He's attracted a lot of fanatics" jack_krass Apr 2016 #214

Thanks for doing absolutely nothing but confirming my point Number23 Apr 2016 #216

I think that's accurate. ucrdem Apr 2016 #53

+1...nt SidDithers Apr 2016 #179

'Nother post to trash nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #16

Dig deeper... it's "bad" and has been proven to be a big, fat lie. SMC22307 Apr 2016 #120

Truth is not something I expect anymore nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #123

Truth can still be found on DU... SMC22307 Apr 2016 #129

That is what I meant nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #160

Sanders has a complete lack of integrity. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #26

You aint never lied bravenak Apr 2016 #31

that would be true. Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #174

Hillary has integrity? Nedsdag Apr 2016 #208

The Clintonites have gone full Karl Rove! They're beyond the typical Republican. (nt) w4rma Apr 2016 #29

We knew this was coming. SMC22307 Apr 2016 #70

Well, I do think that's part of it. Human nature. nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #80

Yep they have. zeemike Apr 2016 #98

Dishonesty. You betcha Autumn Apr 2016 #32

Mehlhorn was COO of Michelle Rhee's StudentsFirst. SMC22307 Apr 2016 #33

Michelle Rhee SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #84

DU had a field day with Michelle Rhee. SMC22307 Apr 2016 #88

Is that the source of the OP? Thanks for info. nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #100

Yes, Dmitri Mehlhorn, anti-union and prison profiteer. SMC22307 Apr 2016 #102

Very interesting. I shall look it up. Thank you. SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #106

A pattern has been established... SMC22307 Apr 2016 #117

this is exactly the kind of attack that I reject when bernie supporters post against hillary ... cloudythescribbler Apr 2016 #34

It's not doing the NRA's bidding when you get a D-minus rating from them. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #35

There is Pervasive Dishonesty noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #38

Silliness. immoderate Apr 2016 #39

The Washington Post and some other fact checkers have caught bernie in lies Gothmog Apr 2016 #52

The Washington Post said 147 FBI Agents were investigating Hillary but they got fact checked on that Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #195

Thankie much for the article! I hadn't seen the Wapo piece about the NRA and Lucinda Apr 2016 #57

Thank you for posting this article, Bravenak lunamagica Apr 2016 #62

No prob! bravenak Apr 2016 #142

One point I'd take issue with is that Bernie started clean and turned dirty. ucrdem Apr 2016 #65

True. Nobody knew him, so he was this shiny new thing. But little by little, the luster is lunamagica Apr 2016 #75

Wrong. If you were paying attention during the lead-up to the Iraq War... SMC22307 Apr 2016 #77

I was paying attention to the 92 campaign. ucrdem Apr 2016 #79

Yeah, the ONE war he voted against, sure lunamagica Apr 2016 #85

That "ONE war" has changed everything. SMC22307 Apr 2016 #89

Well, you are the ones who keep saying "They just don't know him. Once they do lunamagica Apr 2016 #91

I've never said that. SMC22307 Apr 2016 #93

What other "wars" did he vote for? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #94

Kosovo for one: ucrdem Apr 2016 #97

I covered that. You're comparing Iraq to stopping a genocide and preventing ethnic cleansing? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #99

His own constituents strongly disagreed. Bernie had them arrested: ucrdem Apr 2016 #104

Oh please, you're quoting an anti-Semitic bigot. *I* was one of his constiuents ... beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #113

You need to support your claim that Ashley Smith is anti-Semitic. nt ucrdem Apr 2016 #116

Read it for yourself. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #119

Different article, different journal, different author. Please support your claim or retract it. nt ucrdem Apr 2016 #121

I supported it. She's a loon who writes for the Socialist Worker and imo an anti-Semitic bigot. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #124

You cited nothing of the sort. Please support your claim or retract it. nt ucrdem Apr 2016 #127

Reading is fundamental: beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #128

Please support your claim that Ashley Smith is an "anti-Semitic bigot" ucrdem Apr 2016 #122

Done: beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #125

You made a serious claim. You've provided no proof. ucrdem Apr 2016 #130

I don't take orders from you and I cited proof, not everyone has to agree with you. Get over it beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #131

You've provided nothing showing Ashley Smith is an "anti-Semitic bigot." Please support your claim ucrdem Apr 2016 #133

I did and I'm entitled to my opinion. Relax, you'll get over it. Here is a nice picture for you: beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #134

You need to retract your claim or support it. So far you haven't. nt ucrdem Apr 2016 #135

"retract your claim" beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #136

You made a serious claim. If it's false, as it appears to be, I suggest a self-delete. nt ucrdem Apr 2016 #137

I have a right to an opinion. Alert on it or stop telling me what to do. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #138

It's your credibility on the line not mine. ucrdem Apr 2016 #143

Oh noes! You're *bookmarking* my post! I am terrified. Really. This is me: beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #144

The issue here you'll recall is "pervasive dishonesty." ucrdem Apr 2016 #145

Ashley is rabidly anti-Israel, to the point of being unhinged and she LOATHES Democrats: beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #153

Justice for Palestinians is not "anti-Semitic bigotry." And Sanders is supposed to be a Socialist. ucrdem Apr 2016 #161

Logical fallacies, logical fallacies everywhere... beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #162

Sounds a little "stalker-ish" to me. opiate69 Apr 2016 #147

That too. nt ucrdem Apr 2016 #148

lol opiate69 Apr 2016 #149

Yes it does. This person seems to think he can intimidate me. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #152

Lol.. no, he do not! opiate69 Apr 2016 #154

Are you for the TPP? (NT) Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #105

Check my sig. ucrdem Apr 2016 #108

Totally agree...I think he considers this the only way to win Sheepshank Apr 2016 #183

Could you provide links please revbones Apr 2016 #230

Hmmmm... Have been pointed to info on the author (ETA) SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #67

Bernie was a C and now a D MattP Apr 2016 #81

thanks for posting this rbrnmw Apr 2016 #83

Yo. bravenak Apr 2016 #141

Campaign finance reform Yeah right! fun n serious Apr 2016 #95

WHY DOES BERNIE HATE AMERICA??? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #96

Obama has also spoken out against the Ex-Im Bank. NT Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #107

Did he receive money from Koch? nt fun n serious Apr 2016 #110

Bernie Sanders didn't take money from the NRA. Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #103

Without his permission fun n serious Apr 2016 #112

"But that year, he was the enemy of the NRA’s enemy." SMC22307 Apr 2016 #114

Posts hidden by Jury: 9 n/t. SixString Apr 2016 #109

That amnesty was a great idea! Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #176

Seriously? Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #185

This is true. Thank you. nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #190

Speaking of politically expedient paths...this sounds so familiar about Bernie Jitter65 Apr 2016 #118

Bernie Sanders wants the US to phase out nuclear power by not renewing plant licenses. Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #126

Doesn't New York send their sewage to Sierra Blanca? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #132

They did, for years 'The Poo Poo Choo Choo' trains delivered tons of NYC sewage to be spread over Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #180

If Clinton can deny it, so can Bernie. HassleCat Apr 2016 #140

Bernie is running a purity campaign talking about Clinton State to State fun n serious Apr 2016 #156

Pathetic, per usual eom noiretextatique Apr 2016 #146

Your posts are pure genius! n/t pantsonfire Apr 2016 #150

Seriously.nt bravenak Apr 2016 #151

Let's see... ZombieHorde Apr 2016 #155

Everybody mixes their own bullshit in with the facts. bravenak Apr 2016 #157

I know I do, but I keep trying not to. nt ZombieHorde Apr 2016 #159

Review this sty fun n serious Apr 2016 #158

what is a "seed investor"? TheDormouse Apr 2016 #165

A new term for vulture.. I mean venture capitalist... Fumesucker Apr 2016 #168

Exactly but also on the board of American Prison Data Systems, part of the prison for profit system Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #186

"Exhibit A: Taking money from the NRA and then doing their bidding. In the largely rural and white Cha Apr 2016 #166

K&R! murielm99 Apr 2016 #167

The Pervasive Swiftboating of Bernie Sanders Fumesucker Apr 2016 #169

A dark turn for the Sanders campaign Gothmog Apr 2016 #170

K&R ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #171

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #172

Google search for --> News NRA Sanders and New York News riversedge Apr 2016 #177

Pervasive Dishonesty Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #178

DU rec... SidDithers Apr 2016 #181

The author sits on the board of American Prison Data Systems.... Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #184

Thanks to the people who pointed me to info about the author of the piece. SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #193

An unbelievable pile of garbage hellofromreddit Apr 2016 #196

because she is? wendylaroux Apr 2016 #201

When someone is on record saying they hate Jews... Marr Apr 2016 #197

I'd be too embarrassed to post anything if I were her. wendylaroux Apr 2016 #202

A lot of them are. bvf Apr 2016 #207

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #203

I have to assume so. Or at the very least Marr Apr 2016 #209

They are Skinner's All Stars. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #211

"all the people who rec'd her post" jack_krass Apr 2016 #213

^^^THIS^^^ beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #210

She's on record saying Sanders' fans are racists, too Rob H. Apr 2016 #212

You are talking about dishonesty??? libtodeath Apr 2016 #198

Damn straight. I don't sit online all fucking day bravenak Apr 2016 #220

I'm not seeing much "revolution" here Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #232

Sad they have such limited lives... bravenak Apr 2016 #234

Damn. I can only see about fifty posts in this thread. bravenak Apr 2016 #215

That's what happens when you stick your head in the sand. Fozzledick Apr 2016 #218

Why would I give one fuck what people on the internet who would be SCARED SHITLESSS bravenak Apr 2016 #219

Oh please, you're not fooling anyone anymore. We can all see how desperate you are for attention. Fozzledick Apr 2016 #221

Bull bravenak Apr 2016 #222

Oh yeah, you're a real Legend in Your Own Mind Fozzledick Apr 2016 #227

Why are you giving me so much attention, then? bravenak Apr 2016 #228

I've just always had this thing about standing up to bullies. Fozzledick Apr 2016 #231

Ohhh! Posting on the internet is not standing up for jack. It's posting on the internet. bravenak Apr 2016 #236

You're not really challenging me to confront you in real life, are you? Fozzledick Apr 2016 #238

The only pervasive thing here is Clinton's camp's incessant projection. eom Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #217

Last time I checked he was the candidate NOT being investigated by the FBI. Vinca Apr 2016 #223

And not releasing his tax returns. bravenak Apr 2016 #224

I imagine you'll want those "idiots" to vote for Hillary if she's the nominee. Vinca Apr 2016 #235

Once again bravenak Apr 2016 #237

This is an excellent piece. Thanks very much for sharing it! nt NurseJackie Apr 2016 #225

Your welcome!! bravenak Apr 2016 #226

Just another load of slime and lies from Corruption Central. n/t Jester Messiah Apr 2016 #229

Excellent Read. Thanks. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #233

K&R! Thanks for posting, brave. R B Garr Apr 2016 #239