2016 Postmortem

paulthompson

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6. Wow!

Reply to Time for change (Original post)

Fri Mar 25, 2016, 07:22 PM

Mar 2016

Nice work. Those are some stunning numbers.

It's a shame journalists aren't noticing these same things and publishing them in Arizona newspapers. Maybe you should try contacting some journalists with these numbers?

One thing I feel probably isn't well known enough is just how populous Maricopa County is. It has 4 million out of the 7 million people in Arizona. So screwing with that one county could drastically effect the results of the entire state.

You might want to look into Pima County too. It seems there were a lot of problems there too, including not enough polling places.

Something I'd like to know: has it been reported just how many people cast provisional ballots? And will those get counted, and if so, when? I figure a lot of the dramatic difference between the election day voting numbers in Maricopa County compared to other counties is because so many people who were legitimately registered as Democrats were forced to use provisional ballots.

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How Badly Did Voter Suppression in Maricopa County Hurt Bernie in Arizona? [View all] Time for change Mar 2016 OP

To repeat and emphasize... dchill Mar 2016 #1

Thank you for emphasizing that. Those are the main points I wanted to get across Time for change Mar 2016 #5

I figured that. My post is intended for people like me... dchill Mar 2016 #8

Wow I had no idea of the actual numbers. PufPuf23 Mar 2016 #31

Here's what really stinks... dchill Mar 2016 #47

Much less than 14%, since they called it so early. flor-de-jasmim Mar 2016 #52

There Neeeds to be Legal Action Taken To "Bring The DNC to Heel!" CorporatistNation Mar 2016 #54

K&R n/t Tom Rinaldo Mar 2016 #51

Thank you. Good reporting. Appreciate it. oldandhappy Mar 2016 #2

Thank you Time for change Mar 2016 #7

She FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #3

The only way to know who was hurt is to know how those who intended to vote and did not upaloopa Mar 2016 #4

If that was true Time for change Mar 2016 #13

Well it isn't an exact science. upaloopa Mar 2016 #35

repugs were rehearsing for November. brush Mar 2016 #41

You are correct, and thank you for caring lostnfound Mar 2016 #21

Wow! paulthompson Mar 2016 #6

Thank you Time for change Mar 2016 #10

Yes, but... paulthompson Mar 2016 #34

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #9

Thank you, Uncle Joe Time for change Mar 2016 #17

I personally know three people who weren't allowed to vote, who were Bernie supporters. AzDar Mar 2016 #11

IMO they are suppressing the vote in anticipation of the GE. morningglory Mar 2016 #12

You may be right Time for change Mar 2016 #16

OR someone might care if Bernie or Hillary wins the primary... Chezboo Mar 2016 #39

Yes, it's voter fraud. And it was on purpose. Zira Mar 2016 #14

Actually it would be election fraud... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #24

thank you, correct. Zira Mar 2016 #48

So back in 2012 when the vs law was enacted, Sanders would have been expected to run in 2016, misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #15

First, I'm not blaming Hillary for this Time for change Mar 2016 #19

I believe it took place in 2012. misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #28

Early voting 7% under 30; 41% over 65. pat_k Mar 2016 #18

My point is not that Clinton won the early voting Time for change Mar 2016 #20

Absolutely. There's no doubt given the demographic difference... pat_k Mar 2016 #25

So the Clinton campaign would have been able to influence the County Clerk? RandySF Mar 2016 #29

Re-read my post. I explicitly said... pat_k Mar 2016 #45

Hillary has no stain on her victory. misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #33

Yep. It's the voters fault that voting was so difficult on election day. pat_k Mar 2016 #46

No. Bernies own campaign should have done their homework misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #55

Great job. Nt lostnfound Mar 2016 #22

Strongly recommended. H2O Man Mar 2016 #23

It probably hurt Hillary more. RandySF Mar 2016 #26

I think that many Latino voters for Hillary DesertRat Mar 2016 #43

K and R highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #27

Not that astounding. Most people nowadays vote early, absentee, etc. You avoid lines, illness,, Hoyt Mar 2016 #30

You probably don't even realize... dchill Mar 2016 #56

I realize people nowadays are pretty dumb putting off voting until the last minute when they Hoyt Mar 2016 #57

It's their right. dchill Mar 2016 #58

Most places you can vote at a precinct weeks before the last day, you can carry your absentee ballot Hoyt Mar 2016 #59

knr Thanks! nt slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #32

The real problem... Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #36

Well this certainly backs up your theory... Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #37

Interesting numbers paulthompson Mar 2016 #40

yes, indeed Time for change Mar 2016 #44

Possibly two problems? paulthompson Mar 2016 #38

Do you have stats on Trump supporters who couldn't vote? DesertRat Mar 2016 #42

I don't disagree with that Time for change Mar 2016 #60

the real purpose of all the speculation from the BS camp is insinuate that Hillary camp used dirty Jitter65 Mar 2016 #49

That is not my purpose Time for change Mar 2016 #50

Per the Des Moine Register editorial after the Iowa caucuses, something smells in the Dem Party. merrily Mar 2016 #53

K & R bkscribe Mar 2016 #61