2016 Postmortem

Koinos

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61. This OP and the Alternet article presume that Trump ever means anything he says.

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 02:47 PM

Mar 2016

His only belief system is narcissism. What promises did Mussolini make to the Italian people?

Seriously, most thinking people would vote for Clinton against Trump because of Trump's racism and xenophobia alone.

If Trump is nominated, even some staunch Republicans will vote for Clinton, rather than see their party destroyed.

Anyone who believes those six "promises" would be carried out by a "President Trump" is borderline delusional.

I dislike many of Clinton's positions, but any Democrat who gives any credence to Trump has too many problems for me to enumerate.

This OP comes dangerously close to a Trump endorsement or a justification of a vote for Trump. What some might call "extortion" from so-called Sanders supporters is getting tiresome.

Sanders supporters should instead work harder for a massive GOTV effort. They should leave their keyboards, stop bragging about big rallies, and physically get like-minded citizens to the polls.

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6 Key Issues Where Trump Neutralizes Hillary or Runs to Her Left [View all] Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 OP

This is what happens when you take unions for granted.... vi5 Mar 2016 #1

You might want to read this: seaglass Mar 2016 #2

The agenda for some is to get whoever the GOP is elected and very Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #5

This isn't puffing up Trump. Its the truth. Its why Hillary will lose & people should vote RiverLover Mar 2016 #6

No, it's only truth for Trump Humpers pretending to be Sanders supporters geek tragedy Mar 2016 #37

RiverLover is correct, and burying one's head in the sand won't change that. Scuba Mar 2016 #43

Oh, noez!!!11! Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #7

I'm not the person who decides who gets banned or not, who is pumping up Trump or not. I don't seaglass Mar 2016 #10

Not sure why you thought you needed to tell me that, but okie-dokie. (nm) Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #12

no one but Trump Humping trolls are claiming Trump is to Clinton's left on health care geek tragedy Mar 2016 #27

Trump Humping trolls? Scuba Mar 2016 #64

Ben Swann was a massive Ron Paul humper. I don't buy shit he sells. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #66

The point is Trump can run to the left of Hillary on healthcare and there's video to back him up. Scuba Mar 2016 #75

I know, we live in the same purple state - we were gonna meet up at convention. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #78

Yeah, I put that in for the jury, not you Nikki. Scuba Mar 2016 #91

Cheap SHot Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #9

Go with that. n/t seaglass Mar 2016 #13

But is this true? artislife Mar 2016 #70

Oh no! The Hillary fanatics are threatening a purge! BillZBubb Mar 2016 #81

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! n/t seaglass Mar 2016 #84

One issue where both Sanders and Trump are to the right of Hillary is gun control. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #3

Nonsense. The sole significant difference between Clinton and Sanders on gun control... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #8

Yes, there is a difference in Hillary and Sanders on gun control, Sanders is on the right with Trump Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #14

Absurd. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #16

Hillary has an F from NRA, how did Sanders score a D? Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #18

(D-) Because of his (correct and democratic) vote on liability. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #23

"Nuisance lawsuits as a dodge past the inability to get what one wants via the democratic process" NuclearDem Mar 2016 #30

Feel free to explain that one. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #34

so you're claiming the Sandy Hook parents are launching a nuisance lawsuit? nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #40

I'm talking about Bernie Sanders' and/or Bernie Sanders supporters' NuclearDem Mar 2016 #42

Given that I've never done that, posting assertion to me is odd. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #47

I am not fine with average of 80 people dying daily from gun violence. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #68

Nor am I. But that has nothing to do with any difference between Bernie and Hillary on gun control. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #69

Voting against the Brady Bill five times is a failure for me to change my mind Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #73

Lame dodge - Now address the issues raised in the article. Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Mar 2016 #20

He dosen't have to prove it, he just has to say it. Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #24

People who care about those issues will all vote for Hillary just like people who want geek tragedy Mar 2016 #29

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #31

Anyone stupid enough to claim that Hillary will revbones Mar 2016 #41

anyone who thinks Trump will be as good or better than Clinton geek tragedy Mar 2016 #46

Let's have some proportion. If gun control is your key issue, there is some point to be made here... highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #82

Having a DNC candidate running right on an issue of which on Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #85

If that's your big issue, then I understand. It's not mine, though I think it's horrible. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #90

Yawn trumad Mar 2016 #4

OMG!! We must vote for Bernie at once or... Dem2 Mar 2016 #15

another one - not addressing the article Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #17

I was thinking along these lines when I came across your post. immoderate Mar 2016 #52

Lol Dem2 Mar 2016 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Mar 2016 #19

SHoot the Messenger? Ignore the issues and they'll go away? Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Mar 2016 #22

Gah! The willful ignorance it burns! revbones Mar 2016 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Mar 2016 #51

Wow, twist words much? revbones Mar 2016 #54

No, it's flatout dishonest. Clinton is running to Trump's left on health care and Social Security. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #56

Do you know and have links to Trumps positions on those? revbones Mar 2016 #57

Tx revbones for the clearity Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #80

Supporting Hillary in the primary is supporting Drumph in the general, because she'll lose to him. Electric Monk Mar 2016 #36

Wishful thinking. Clinton will beat Trump, as every poll and every credible geek tragedy Mar 2016 #38

When has Trump ever talked about cutting the military budget? brooklynite Mar 2016 #25

Don't like clicking links to alternet? Here, I got you a link. vintx Mar 2016 #39

Probably fewer than revbones Mar 2016 #49

Other than that Trump is a lying liar... JackRiddler Mar 2016 #26

She's pretty good at it, too. nt artislife Mar 2016 #71

She's aiming 10 IQ points higher, however. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #72

Oooh, look! a Trump puffer-upper! PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #28

yep, crystal clear. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #33

Thread was alerted by the 'pivot to the general' squad. Snarkoleptic Mar 2016 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Mar 2016 #35

OK, reset this and read the point of the article... Snarkoleptic Mar 2016 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Mar 2016 #55

But his position on this leaves little room for contrast, thus the 'neutralization' argument. Snarkoleptic Mar 2016 #63

HRCs fans are alleging that *alternet" is trump-humping vintx Mar 2016 #44

This statement in the OP definitely is PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #53

Gee, I think I'll vote for Trump. Onlooker Mar 2016 #48

Trump WILL go left, despite racism, and some will believe him. Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #58

Trump is vain, wily, ruthlessly populist, and wants to win MisterP Mar 2016 #59

Trump's trade policy sounds like Coolidge and Hoover. That ain't 'left' of anybody. pampango Mar 2016 #60

This OP and the Alternet article presume that Trump ever means anything he says. Koinos Mar 2016 #61

"most thinking people would vote for Clinton against Trump" Snarkoleptic Mar 2016 #65

He doesn't have hoards. Koinos Mar 2016 #67

Key points. H2O Man Mar 2016 #74

Most polls show her losing to Trump. Will the party ignore this main issue? ViseGrip Mar 2016 #76

WHY IS DU ALLOWING TRUMP SUPPORTERS TO RUN RAMPANT ON THIS FORUM ? Trust Buster Mar 2016 #77

Why are you posting blatant nonsense? BillZBubb Mar 2016 #83

The OP sings the praises of Trump's detail-free policy positions. This is the Democratic Underground Trust Buster Mar 2016 #86

Baloney. The OP suggests a path Trump may take in the general election. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #88

This thread should be locked. It's a Trump propaganda thread. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #89

Geez, man, you are in too deep. Your partisan lunacy is showing. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #92

My partisan lunacy ? You Sanders supporters are the ones puffing up Trump. DESPERATE. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #93

This is so key. Hillary may not really be the "safe" choice at all!!!!! highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #79

Cause the adults really believe anything that comes out of that assholes mouth? tia uponit7771 Mar 2016 #87