2016 Postmortem

MADem

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8. Cogent analysis.

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:27 PM

Mar 2016

He doesn't just need to win, he needs sustained blowouts in states that have a decent number of delegates. I don't see that happening. I don't see him bringing it home in a big way in places like NY (where Clinton is a known quantity, having tromped all over that state and knowing it better than many governors) or neighboring CT, or PA.

You've got to bring it home in diverse states with dense population centers. Sanders never cracked that code. I can't see him doing it at this late stage of the game.

We'll slog on, but the end result, after a fair amount of wailing, teeth gnashing, threats, promises, invective, rancor, tears and recriminations, is that Clinton will be our nominee, and Sanders, unless he wants to fall on his sword and bleed out, will stand up on that convention stage and give her a robust, full-throated endorsement.

And she could do worse picking him as her Labor Secretary. That would free up his seat for Shumlin to grab, and it would allow him to pursue the issue nearest and dearest to his heart. Win-win.

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Perils for Bernie staying in.....and why he won't "come back" [View all] MaggieD Mar 2016 OP

silly H2O Man Mar 2016 #1

Political reality MaggieD Mar 2016 #2

Go Bernie liberal from boston Mar 2016 #11

Be aware that HRC has major issues which she's lying about Baobab Mar 2016 #143

yes, your view of political reality is laughably silly -- pdsimdars Mar 2016 #13

Still silly Beowulf Mar 2016 #39

LOL, one of the silliest post I have ever read here. nt Logical Mar 2016 #55

Yep! nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #82

Praise Nancy for the political reality! Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #97

Why do you insult so many Bernie supporters by calling them kids who only care about Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #3

And these are the same people who warn those mean nasty Bernie suporters not to turn people off pdsimdars Mar 2016 #9

I am one of those who criticize the nastiness I see from Bernie supporters. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #14

It can, but both sides don't invade polling places Politicalboi Mar 2016 #32

THIS vintx Mar 2016 #48

I have recurring donations until June PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #4

You understand the "kids", do ya? Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #5

Yes, I do MaggieD Mar 2016 #44

I know some kids like that.. bravenak Mar 2016 #51

LOL! MaggieD Mar 2016 #59

Your kid is 23 years old and has no idea how bills get passed? Wherever did you send him to school? cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #58

My kid does - but his friends are idiots MaggieD Mar 2016 #61

How are you still posting with seven hides this month alone? cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #67

Because you can't alert stalk someone into a suspension any more MaggieD Mar 2016 #68

Wow. Forget the fact that the term "alert stalking" is as subjective as they come... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #70

Well no, that is only done to Hillary supporters MaggieD Mar 2016 #75

Yeah. Artificial sweeteners are safe, there were WMD's in Iraq, and Anna Nicole Smith cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #79

You forgot the last couple lines of that statement dflprincess Mar 2016 #130

"Still got the shovel." cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #145

It was a great line, wasn't it? nt dflprincess Mar 2016 #150

Love that line, and especially that character. Wow, I am tempted to rewatch that movie this evening. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #152

Levon Helm. Without him the movie "The Right Stuff" wouldn't have been half as entertaining. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #172

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll check it out. I had only seen the movie version. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #176

Makes me wanna go to Terlingua with a metal detector or ground penetrating radar LOL. nt cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #171

That's bull shit. cabineer Mar 2016 #83

LMAO... having been a victim of alert stalking and harrasment for years nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #85

The truth can be brought back to light. oasis Mar 2016 #164

See post #66 for some of MaggieD's "truths" JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #166

Pointing out Bernie's unpopularity with congress folk is fair game. oasis Mar 2016 #167

She said he had no congressional endorsements. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #168

If a person ran across a symphony concert stage wearing only a g-string, oasis Mar 2016 #169

I would say if the person's description was "completely nude" then it would be inaccurate. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #173

No more timeouts after 5 hides kdmorris Mar 2016 #112

No, it's because they've realized that things have become polarized SFnomad Mar 2016 #131

I skimmed through that this afternoon but didn't read all of it. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #142

And you're probably trying to help them understand Voice for Peace Mar 2016 #65

I am happy to see them involved in the political process MaggieD Mar 2016 #78

I was hoping the damn jury system would be gone now that you've all been set free, Maggie.. Cha Mar 2016 #128

It's going to take them awhile to get used to it, I suppose MaggieD Mar 2016 #133

I'm not particularly happy about conservative voters in southern states.. frylock Mar 2016 #140

With a teacher like you timmymoff Mar 2016 #115

you really underestimate how passionate his supporters are. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #6

We're fighting to win, but it's ultimately about more than winning the nom. pat_k Mar 2016 #12

indeed, it's only a movement if it's about more than one election nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #16

They are not passionate enough to turn out to vote hack89 Mar 2016 #49

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #7

There is no need to be personally rude or insulting to MaggieD. nt MADem Mar 2016 #10

to someone who is contently smug and condescenting to Bernie supporters pdsimdars Mar 2016 #17

You are going out of your way to pot stir in this thread. MADem Mar 2016 #40

This is what happens when people are don't have to serve their time outs. MelissaB Mar 2016 #122

I can think of 6696 reasons why. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #93

What an ugly way to say that everything she says should be met with negativity. MADem Mar 2016 #96

Nah it just took a quick scroll. By the way you need a new word of the day... Kalidurga Mar 2016 #100

I let your rude remarks speak for themselves. MADem Mar 2016 #103

I doubt that I will ever think better of behaving the way I do. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #105

Sniping and name calling doesn't solve anything. MADem Mar 2016 #107

Is there really a better way? Kalidurga Mar 2016 #108

Hopefully, you will feel better soon. This kind of thing will eat you up if you let it go on. MADem Mar 2016 #134

Well, with her smugness, actually plenty of reason HERVEPA Mar 2016 #157

Oh, come on. MADem Mar 2016 #161

Cogent analysis. MADem Mar 2016 #8

Fantasy wishful thinking. .. . it's a race and neither Bernie or his supporters are quitters. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #18

No matter--Hillary is going to take it ALL THE WAY TO THE WH. riversedge Mar 2016 #30

You are being personally rude and insulting in this thread, first to MaggieD, now to me. MADem Mar 2016 #38

Doesn't matter anymore. 5 hide rule is suspended Arazi Mar 2016 #76

Right - and he has never built the coalitions needed either MaggieD Mar 2016 #46

As a cabinet official, he is constrained by the POTUS's agenda. MADem Mar 2016 #60

Hmmm - but who would want to work with him? MaggieD Mar 2016 #66

You are spreading blatant falsehoods in addition to hate now. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #127

No, I'm really not MaggieD Mar 2016 #138

Doubling down on the blatant lie I see! JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #149

6 congressman and zero senators MaggieD Mar 2016 #154

My argument is you were lying, and I am glad to see you concur with that assessment. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #156

Lying about what? His colleagues genuinely dislike him MaggieD Mar 2016 #162

You lied and said he had no congressional endorsements. You lied. Face the facts. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #163

He thought he could just plop down and all would come flocking. thartic Mar 2016 #81

It's pretty obvious MaggieD Mar 2016 #86

Did you even read my post? thartic Mar 2016 #99

Okay, pop quiz - what was the difference in their HRC rating? MaggieD Mar 2016 #135

You're such a troll. thartic Mar 2016 #181

So, you don't know the answer - correct? MaggieD Mar 2016 #184

I wonder if he loses and returns to the Senate...would you Dear Mags want him to NOT caucus with the ALBliberal Mar 2016 #177

He can caucus with the GOP if he wants MaggieD Mar 2016 #179

Keep saying that when we are 58 or 59 dems. Ya it won't matter to you or Mrs Clinton. All those judi ALBliberal Mar 2016 #182

Like I said if he wants to look foolish MaggieD Mar 2016 #183

K & R SunSeeker Mar 2016 #15

Thank you for your deep... tonedevil Mar 2016 #19

+100. HAHAHAHAHAHA. so funny!! Karma13612 Mar 2016 #25

Ditto 840high Mar 2016 #94

Every LOSER wants to BLAME others for their loss pdsimdars Mar 2016 #20

This works for both candidates, back to the issues, all of them. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #33

She has already won - you just haven't accepted it yet MaggieD Mar 2016 #47

Dear MaggieD thartic Mar 2016 #89

The way I see is that this is a discussion group MaggieD Mar 2016 #132

READ SKINNER'S NEW POST morningfog Mar 2016 #139

Where did he say it will be a Bernie Support Group? MaggieD Mar 2016 #141

He said, basically, don't be an ass to the candidate and their supporters. morningfog Mar 2016 #144

You are probably wasting your breath. This poster was on a time out with 7 hides. MelissaB Mar 2016 #147

Go tell the Hillary haters MaggieD Mar 2016 #160

Why do you hate Bernie and his supporters? morningfog Mar 2016 #170

His donations are up. His base is motivated. And spring break is over. bobbobbins01 Mar 2016 #21

Nice marions ghost Mar 2016 #42

I don't think his donations are up MaggieD Mar 2016 #50

You can think that, but you'd be wrong. He's passed every goal his campaign set in the past month. bobbobbins01 Mar 2016 #64

How do you know if he refuses to report it? MaggieD Mar 2016 #69

Because he sends out email updates... bobbobbins01 Mar 2016 #88

He sends out public emails but he won't tell the media? MaggieD Mar 2016 #136

We trust our candidate.. frylock Mar 2016 #153

What does trust have to do with it? MaggieD Mar 2016 #155

Because he's only in this game to grift money. frylock Mar 2016 #174

Voter Suppression noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #22

Time to double my contribution Arazi Mar 2016 #23

+100. I'm donating this weekend after payday. eom Karma13612 Mar 2016 #27

kiddie vs. biddie DEATHMATCH MisterP Mar 2016 #24

Guess you haven't seen twitter today? Just donated again. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #26

Bernie has support from a lot more than young voters. n/t Skwmom Mar 2016 #28

From day 1 " You people " have wanted him to go away, Iowa was made out to be a Landslide, without orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #29

Just sent another $200 this morning. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #31

HRC will immediately swing forty degrees to the right if Bernie drops out. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #34

If it started in NY and California this would be a different conversation . orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #41

Agree with you 100% Generic Brad Mar 2016 #102

I belong to a FB page with thousands on there for Bernie. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #35

Thanks for the post. wilsonbooks Mar 2016 #36

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #37

I actually think it's fine if his followers want to pay him $40,000,000.00 a month.... Walk away Mar 2016 #43

It just becomes a cult after awhile workinclasszero Mar 2016 #45

Right! People send money in to TV preachers and they don't really get... Walk away Mar 2016 #91

Your concern is noted... choie Mar 2016 #52

Very silly, childish even nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #53

I will admit, I have missed these silly analysis's of yours. They are really really clueless. nt Logical Mar 2016 #54

You mean when you're not busy sending me nasty PMs? MaggieD Mar 2016 #56

You have SEVEN hidden posts in the month of March alone. How are you still posting? cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #63

Because you can't alert stalk someone into a suspension any more MaggieD Mar 2016 #72

Serial dustuptors' only consequence now is being blocked out of a thread. morningfog Mar 2016 #90

Her 7 now says 2. I'm guessing that means she has 2 new hides today??? MelissaB Mar 2016 #148

Dreary negative tale you tell. Voice for Peace Mar 2016 #57

Perils for Bernie staying in jmousso75 Mar 2016 #62

K&R mcar Mar 2016 #71

He just needs to follow Hillary's 2008 logic eggman67 Mar 2016 #73

Paternalistic garbage Loudestlib Mar 2016 #74

Thanks for your patronizing opinion. n/t cureautismnow Mar 2016 #77

I don't know what is patronizing about it MaggieD Mar 2016 #80

Your whole tone is condescending. Some things are best left unsaid. cureautismnow Mar 2016 #92

The death spiral? The DEATH SPIRAL?? Ron Green Mar 2016 #123

Yep. It's obviously a death spiral. bravenak Mar 2016 #125

Not to mention all the bridges he is burning. upaloopa Mar 2016 #84

Yeah, no other politician will want to know.the secret to garnering $$$ Arazi Mar 2016 #101

Paragraph 1 of your op Vilis Veritas Mar 2016 #87

kids / uncool / foolish - is this the Clinton campaign's effort to unite the party? Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #95

How to win friends.....geeze 840high Mar 2016 #106

Or like calling blacks ignorant and stockholm syndrome victims? bravenak Mar 2016 #109

Praise Nancy! Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #114

She hated my black welfare queen ass too. I see you ignored the pertinent parts. Umm hmm. bravenak Mar 2016 #116

The point isn't whom Nancy hated. The point is Clinton praised her for essentially: wanting me DEAD. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #117

Okay. What has that to do with Stockholm Syndrome and nobody giving a damn? bravenak Mar 2016 #118

Racism (and sexism and and other -ism) have nothing to do with condescesion toward millennials Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #120

I am a fucking millennial. Now, whats up with the stockholm syndrome stuff? bravenak Mar 2016 #121

I don't know. Your brought it up. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #126

That's what I thought bravenak Mar 2016 #129

Don't pretend to have Bernie Sanders' interest at heart. Its a pathetic ploy on your part. aikoaiko Mar 2016 #98

much overlooked ruralsteve Mar 2016 #104

I could not have said it better myself! CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2016 #111

Loser! Looooozerrr! HassleCat Mar 2016 #110

HAHAHAHAHAHA! John Poet Mar 2016 #175

I just sent another $25 today. Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #113

I get it. You're tired of him. dchill Mar 2016 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author Vattel Mar 2016 #124

This kind of post is offensive to me. Stop trying to trivialize the opposition to Baobab Mar 2016 #137

The OP needs to go back to their ban. morningfog Mar 2016 #146

Skinner's changes are only going to make it worse. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #151

Yep, this one is even bragging about it. morningfog Mar 2016 #158

Rubbish! Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #159

Didn't get past your first line but that alone earned Bernie a donation. Live and Learn Mar 2016 #165

The thought of you sitting at home and typing things like this makes me sad. /nt Marr Mar 2016 #178

Thanks for your concern. - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2016 #180