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Garrett78

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36. As you've implied, every primary/caucus being proportional...
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 05:07 AM
Mar 2016

...makes overcoming a 200+ delegate deficit quite difficult. It seems to me there are basically 3 paths to the nomination for a person with such a deficit when approximately 3/5ths of the states remain.

1) The candidate who is trailing has to win every small state by a wide margin (so wide, perhaps, that the opponent doesn't meet the threshold for that state), while breaking even in the big states.

2) The candidate consistently wins the small states but not by a large margin, and they win several big states (New York, New Jersey, Ohio and Pennsylvania, for instance) while breaking even in the other big states.

3) The candidate could win really big (by, say, 30+ percentage points) in a delegate-rich state or two (like California and New York), while winning a slim majority of the delegates everywhere else.

I think #1 is Sanders's most viable path, but it seems highly unlikely. #2 is probably the most realistic hypothetical scenario, generally speaking. #3 seems implausible--not just for Sanders, but in general.

On the Republican side of the ledger, however, Trump could be kept from winning a majority of the delegates. Thanks to winner-take-all states, as well as the number of candidates he's running against.

I believe your Michigan percentages are a bit off. Anyway, the fact that Sanders won in spite of being expected to lose badly impacts the narrative. But it doesn't impact the delegate math.

As long as we're counting DELEGATES (and not individual states) Hillary will be the nominee ... NurseJackie Mar 2016 #1
That seems highly likely, and MineralMan Mar 2016 #2
It does affect one thing. HassleCat Mar 2016 #3
The primary contests will continue. No question. MineralMan Mar 2016 #5
I did notice she didn't win 60-40% as some predicted. Punkingal Mar 2016 #4
Yup. I was wrong, just as were a lot of people. MineralMan Mar 2016 #7
Everything's going to be okay. Mufaddal Mar 2016 #6
Sanders was never supposed to break into double digits in the first place Fumesucker Mar 2016 #8
My primary event is over. MineralMan Mar 2016 #11
On the other hand, if Bernie keeps on SheilaT Mar 2016 #9
On the other hand, I have four fingers and a thumb. MineralMan Mar 2016 #12
She struggles outside the deep south AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #18
The close primaries are a shot across the bow of the center-right leadership of the Dem party apnu Mar 2016 #10
The close primaries are just that: close primaries. MineralMan Mar 2016 #13
Its not opinion, its reality. apnu Mar 2016 #16
Yes they do ibegurpard Mar 2016 #14
Momentum is hard to measure, really. MineralMan Mar 2016 #15
Yep. Analysis relative to targets is looking very good. pat_k Mar 2016 #20
She can't win outside the deep south AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #17
Massachusetts is in the deep south? Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #24
So is Nevada. CorkySt.Clair Mar 2016 #27
Yup. Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #30
She has won 1 state outside the deep south AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #32
Nevada is in the Deep South? Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #33
Analysis relative to targets demonstrates good, very possibly winning, trajectory. pat_k Mar 2016 #19
Do you know if the targets are routinely updated? LonePirate Mar 2016 #21
I assume they adjust targets for remaining elections as polls come in. pat_k Mar 2016 #22
Yes, but Hillary is at 113% of her traget, while Sanders is at 86% Beacool Mar 2016 #23
It's the trajectory. Think about it this way: pat_k Mar 2016 #25
I think that Hillary would still be ahead on delegates (pledged). Beacool Mar 2016 #31
Yeah, it's a long shot. But, remember... pat_k Mar 2016 #34
I bet it took a toll on Nate Silver's xanax stash.... Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #26
Mr. GOTV forgot to vote at his own caucus. SixString Mar 2016 #28
Why is that odd? MineralMan Mar 2016 #29
Oh! I had no idea! TY for pointing this out! ebayfool Mar 2016 #35
As you've implied, every primary/caucus being proportional... Garrett78 Mar 2016 #36
. enigmatic Mar 2016 #37
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