2016 Postmortem

Perogie

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Sat Mar 5, 2016, 10:40 AM

Mar 2016

People that are tired of the same shit from politicians like.....
Clinton
Shumer
DWS

They do just enough to say they are better than Republicans but actually do shit in making a difference

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Why I could NEVER vote for Hillary Clinton [View all] monicaangela Mar 2016 OP

Let me guess... JaneyVee Mar 2016 #1

What specifically has Clinton ever done for minorities or women to indicate good judgement RiverLover Mar 2016 #4

Exactly RiverLover monicaangela Mar 2016 #7

Decades of outreach. What has Bernie done? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #17

Decades of speeches monicaangela Mar 2016 #22

Where has Bernie been over the decades in terms of... JaneyVee Mar 2016 #25

Instead of "Reaching Out" monicaangela Mar 2016 #40

Bernie voted for mass incarceration and guns. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #44

Learn the reasons why, Bernie voted for those bills monicaangela Mar 2016 #49

The excuses to protect their precious cargo...it never ends. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #52

OOPS.... monicaangela Mar 2016 #57

Whoa, take a deep breath people SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #89

Neither of them seem to be out of breath navarth Mar 2016 #102

Mass incarceration? Docreed2003 Mar 2016 #83

some Hillary supporters Duckhunter935 Mar 2016 #92

He votes for it = racist. Voting against it = sexist eridani Mar 2016 #195

this one might shock you WhiteTara Mar 2016 #103

jury results restorefreedom Mar 2016 #94

Wow 3-4??? Should have been 0-7 to leave it angrychair Mar 2016 #148

du is very quickly becoming its own oligarchy restorefreedom Mar 2016 #165

EXACTLY. KPN Mar 2016 #115

Decades of outreach and SCOTUS, that's what you respond with? Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #29

LOL a half century of activism in VERMONT? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #32

Well, he did get arrested once so there's that. randome Mar 2016 #35

Speak for yourself. Most of us on DU were not ignorant about Bernie. Live and Learn Mar 2016 #86

I don't recall any threads about him before he decided to join the Democratic Party. randome Mar 2016 #105

You didn't try too hard did you? Live and Learn Mar 2016 #186

^^^^^this^^^^^ Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #188

Embarassing...you know better than this...I hope. monicaangela Mar 2016 #46

He has been in D.C. working for all of us for some time. Besides, Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #50

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #53

You appear to be saying this... monicaangela Mar 2016 #58

ROFL That is just what I picture. nt Live and Learn Mar 2016 #90

Yep, look in the mirror then. I don't support the Queen of lies, you do. Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #70

I thought we were done with the "VT isn't even in the US!" meme AlbertCat Mar 2016 #157

So nothing. You got nothing because she's done nothing. RiverLover Mar 2016 #42

Here's an idea: JaneyVee Mar 2016 #51

So because she takes photos monicaangela Mar 2016 #54

Theres hundreds more where that came from, and... JaneyVee Mar 2016 #59

I have spent decades monicaangela Mar 2016 #63

Hillary was 16 during Civil Rights movement. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #65

How Hillary Clinton Went Undercover to Examine Race in Education yallerdawg Mar 2016 #68

to Examine Race in Education AlbertCat Mar 2016 #159

Hundreds more photos. Kall Mar 2016 #181

You are so right! marew Mar 2016 #78

How do you know Clinton hadn't decided to run for president at that time? JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #141

There are photos all over the INTERNET showing Bernie ladjf Mar 2016 #161

Photos impress you, huh? Herman4747 Mar 2016 #167

Decades of PANDERING TheFarseer Mar 2016 #66

Its all an illusion. /nt RiverLover Mar 2016 #112

So we're supposed to ignore the fact Svafa Mar 2016 #88

"the Clintons?" Madam Mossfern Mar 2016 #95

You mean to "superpredators"? Decades of vastly increasing the prison population with eridani Mar 2016 #194

She's done nothing but for the right wingers among us Broward Mar 2016 #18

She dedicates her private life to fighting global poverty and AIDS. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #24

What specifically have the republicans done for minorities or women Perseus Mar 2016 #61

Oh, because Hillary will win ... KPN Mar 2016 #138

Decades of working with and for these groups. DCBob Mar 2016 #77

Clinton versus Bernie Domestic Issues - NPR Dem2 Mar 2016 #87

She's figured out how to use her sex to make people a little less observant of her Baobab Mar 2016 #168

There isn't much difference between the two monicaangela Mar 2016 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author jcgoldie Mar 2016 #11

I guess I'll vote for BERNIE SANDERS erlewyne Mar 2016 #6

Me too erlewyne! monicaangela Mar 2016 #8

no Perogie Mar 2016 #80

A white male who would go largely uneffected by Trump picking SCOTUS. AlbertCat Mar 2016 #132

I'd say RelativelyJones Mar 2016 #180

Her chromosomes guarantee good judgement? ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #2

MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH monicaangela Mar 2016 #13

Wow, have you hit the nail on the head. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #23

Ding, ding, ding, ding.....BINGO!! monicaangela Mar 2016 #27

I know right? I remember a conversation with my RW sister and she was so sad to see Condi go (!!!?) RiverLover Mar 2016 #56

^^^^this^^^^ Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #189

Then get ready for trump. She is a TERRIBLE DEM, but the GOP is worse. nt Logical Mar 2016 #3

Did the GOP do all the things she supported in the video? monicaangela Mar 2016 #9

Having watched GOP fiscal policy under Buckaroo Bush Vogon_Glory Mar 2016 #33

I will take sanders too! He is great! But if hillary wins she is better than the gop. Nt Logical Mar 2016 #38

Tis not a binary solution. There are alternatives ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #97

Then get ready for trump. AlbertCat Mar 2016 #162

I mean if you don't vote dem in the GE. nt Logical Mar 2016 #184

Kickin' for the truth! Faux pas Mar 2016 #10

Thanks Faux pas monicaangela Mar 2016 #14

Then don't,take your ball and go home. sufrommich Mar 2016 #12

Best wishes in your endeavor monicaangela Mar 2016 #16

That guy pretty much says it all Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #15

He certainly does monicaangela Mar 2016 #20

I've read Scheer since the early '70s, when he ran Ramparts magazine. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #30

Powerful. H2O Man Mar 2016 #19

You're welcome H20 Man monicaangela Mar 2016 #21

I've always thought that progressivism is about responsibility for others Nonhlanhla Mar 2016 #26

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Agree with you totally, monicaangela peacebird Mar 2016 #39

Well, as long as you are comfortable, right? nt. Nonhlanhla Mar 2016 #47

Then please don't whine when... 40RatRod Mar 2016 #55

Then make sure you vote for the strongest candidate--BERNIE! pinebox Mar 2016 #154

Bernie has ZERO foreign policy experience. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #28

Neither did Obama monicaangela Mar 2016 #34

His opposition to the Iraq war shows his judgement is far superior to Hillary's in regards to think Mar 2016 #41

But Bernie's not running against Obama or GWB. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #43

Either did Obama. pinebox Mar 2016 #155

(N)Either did Obama. AlbertCat Mar 2016 #163

Eh too many drugs floating through me to care right now pinebox Mar 2016 #166

So what? coyote Mar 2016 #36

Bernie has much better foreign policy JUDGEMENT than Hillary, however peacebird Mar 2016 #37

The U.S. played a supporting role in Libya. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #48

what a load of crap-- as a senator, he dealt with foreign policy every day Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #60

I don't think anyone would disagree if I defined Bernie as an isolationist. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #76

I think plenty would disagree, I disagree Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #114

See: Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #71

Bernie has tons of foreign policy good judgment ... ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #98

Hillary has. In the same way that John Dillinger had a lot of banking experience. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #128

He's got way more than Obama, Bill Clinton, Dubya. kath Mar 2016 #134

That's debatable and irrelevant. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #145

Bernie had enough foreign policy experience ... bvar22 Mar 2016 #185

Maybe that's why he didn't vote for the Iraq war. Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #190

What a whining testament to full scale nose cuttery. Darb Mar 2016 #45

Some dems would be fine with overturning Roe v Wade RealAmericanDem Mar 2016 #62

I agree and posted this a week or so ago BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #64

I'm a Bernie supporter but.... Helen Borg Mar 2016 #67

The admins are very tolerant during primary season. cwydro Mar 2016 #158

AID TO FAMILIES WITH DEPENDENT CHILDREN.. mountain grammy Mar 2016 #69

Well, your attitude, like many others, will help propel us mfcorey1 Mar 2016 #72

Wrong, it will be the fault of you and other Hillary supporters BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #81

You do not know who I support. I could accuse you of being mfcorey1 Mar 2016 #84

Here's a remarkable idea, one I just thought up myself. randome Mar 2016 #85

Exactly Nonhlanhla Mar 2016 #164

+1 Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #192

We couldn't possibly help as much as the oligarchy. Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #191

Don't let great be the enemy of good: my philosophy Bradical79 Mar 2016 #73

if she gets it i'll easily vote for her and against the party certainot Mar 2016 #74

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #82

you mean you won't vote for her and you think certainot Mar 2016 #91

The DNC And RNC Are Both Corporate Controlled - Their Stated Policies Largely In Alignment cantbeserious Mar 2016 #100

what total crap. like i said, if you are so principled that certainot Mar 2016 #170

Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently cantbeserious Mar 2016 #175

While I prefer President Sanders, HockeyMom Mar 2016 #75

Thanks, HockeyMom wryter2000 Mar 2016 #173

On Super Tuesday, Hillary garnered a whopping 4 out of 5 African American votes. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #79

NEVER fatigue has set in Zambero Mar 2016 #93

*yawn* Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #96

The coalition between the progressive wing and the neoliberal wing needs to remain intact. w4rma Mar 2016 #99

This Revolt Has Been Building For Years - The DWS, DNC, DLC, Third-Way Has Only Themselves To Blame cantbeserious Mar 2016 #101

Correct and it will continue no matter whether Bernie wins the White house or a corporate backed w4rma Mar 2016 #106

Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently cantbeserious Mar 2016 #111

Some people have a lot more at stake in these elections than you might. And they are fearful. w4rma Mar 2016 #113

Some People Are Fearful With Either Choice - Trump Or HRC cantbeserious Mar 2016 #118

I am. I know how vindictive that Clinton is and how she is attempting to sabotage progressive w4rma Mar 2016 #122

That Is Why Some Citizens Will Vote For Neither Trump Nor HRC cantbeserious Mar 2016 #124

The coalition between the progressive wing and the neoliberal wing needs to remain intact. (nt) w4rma Mar 2016 #125

This Revolt Has Been Building For Years - The DWS, DNC, DLC, Third-Way Has Only Themselves To Blame cantbeserious Mar 2016 #126

Correct and it will continue no matter whether Bernie wins the White house or a corporate backed w4rma Mar 2016 #129

Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently cantbeserious Mar 2016 #130

Some people have a lot more at stake in these elections than you might. And they are fearful. w4rma Mar 2016 #133

Some People Are Fearful With Either Choice - Trump Or HRC cantbeserious Mar 2016 #137

I am. I know how vindictive that Clinton is and how she is attempting to sabotage progressive w4rma Mar 2016 #139

That Is Why Some Citizens Will Vote For Neither Trump Nor HRC cantbeserious Mar 2016 #143

The coalition between the progressive wing and the neoliberal wing needs to remain intact. w4rma Mar 2016 #146

This Revolt Has Been Building For Years - The DWS, DNC, DLC, Third-Way Has Only Themselves To Blame cantbeserious Mar 2016 #147

Correct and it will continue no matter whether Bernie wins the White house or a corporate backed w4rma Mar 2016 #150

Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently cantbeserious Mar 2016 #177

Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently cantbeserious Mar 2016 #178

Unbelievable. RiverLover Mar 2016 #136

For the first time since 1970 I may not vote a straight ticket. Scruffy1 Mar 2016 #131

Agreed Completely cantbeserious Mar 2016 #140

That old smear of "Hillary is a Republican" She was the 11th most liberal Senator redstateblues Mar 2016 #169

Flip the question: malthaussen Mar 2016 #104

You don't want to go down that road of "voting against". w4rma Mar 2016 #109

Yeah, I'm hip. malthaussen Mar 2016 #116

That's nice for you, but the swing voters in this election are coming from a completely different w4rma Mar 2016 #119

I still say that Donald Madam Mossfern Mar 2016 #107

I caucused for Bernie Sanders on Tuesday in my first ever caucus and he won my state. Deadshot Mar 2016 #108

Hillary sus453 Mar 2016 #110

Actually on many issues, Donald is to her left. RiverLover Mar 2016 #127

In *rhetoric*. His tax plan is to the right of her, while he talks as if it's left of her. w4rma Mar 2016 #152

true. kath Mar 2016 #153

He *says* he's for universal heath care, but his actual proposals aren't. w4rma Mar 2016 #156

She scares me more than Trump. Scruffy1 Mar 2016 #144

Then Donald Trump will appreciate your vote. n/t Brainstormy Mar 2016 #117

Did she say she would vote for Trump? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #142

kick kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #120

Wait for it. Robert Scheer and Democracy Now are right wing. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #121

In the context of a HRC candidacy it is difficult to contemplate voting for the Dem candidate navarth Mar 2016 #123

My sentiments EXACTLY! WishfulThinker Mar 2016 #135

A very informative three minutes it was. nt Autumn Mar 2016 #149

Thank you Robert. SoapBox Mar 2016 #151

Once the primaries are over, will threads saying someone will never vote for the winner be allowed? Frances Mar 2016 #160

Nope. That can't come soon enough for me. redstateblues Mar 2016 #171

God, I hope you're right wryter2000 Mar 2016 #174

Yipee! wryter2000 Mar 2016 #172

LOL MaggieD Mar 2016 #176

. ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #179

I'm going to vote for whomever TeddyR Mar 2016 #182

People who refuse to vote for the Democratic nominee are selfish fools. Beacool Mar 2016 #183

Yes, it sucks to vote for the worst of two evils IsItJustMe Mar 2016 #187

If I lived in a purple state, I sure the hell would. eridani Mar 2016 #193

+1 quantass Mar 2016 #196

K&R -- very well said. senz Mar 2016 #197

I will vote creon Apr 2016 #198