2016 Postmortem

tazkcmo

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104. An unreached audience

Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:34 AM

Mar 2016

The folks that get most of their news from Fox most likely have not seen and heard Sen Sanders unscripted. Sen Sanders is at his best in this environment imo. Years of Brunch With Bernie have given him the mental agility to respond succinctly and confidently "off the cuff" and his passion and sincerity will, hopefully, impress this audience, many of who are also sick and tired of the corporations rigging the game, the bankers/Wall St fleecing us at every turn and the politicians that enable them.

Maybe some who see Trump's brashness and anti-establishment rhetoric as positives but recognize he's a crass buffoon may realize there's an alternative. They may even become receptive to Sen Sanders' "socialist" policies as a result.

I also think this is a bad move for Sec Clinton. She has to win over a lot of conservative leaning Independents and moderate Republicans if she's to win the GE in the probable event she wins the nomination and not participating in their beloved Fair And Balanced Fox News town hall will be held against her. Watch for Fox News to make it a big deal and just another reason among many GOP reasons to not vote for her.

I'm confident Sen Sanders will knock this out of the park and hopefully gain some support.

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Courage: Fox News to hold Democratic town hall with Bernie Sanders in Detroit [View all] Barack_America Mar 2016 OP

Great!!!! valerief Mar 2016 #1

Good for the people! RobertEarl Mar 2016 #2

Bernie's got Wheels Of Steel... (American Steel, not the cheap FTA import...) AzDar Mar 2016 #3

Of course - Repugs are dying to run against Bernie MaggieD Mar 2016 #4

Wrong! My Fox News watching MIL plans on voting for Sanders. MelissaB Mar 2016 #5

Oh well that proves something MaggieD Mar 2016 #25

She is in her early 80's, lived in NY, has voted Republican since I've known her, retired school MelissaB Mar 2016 #35

God love her. Thanks for posting this. BigBearJohn Mar 2016 #160

And republicans like Ben Stein UglyGreed Mar 2016 #171

Bernie gets 25% of the Republican vote in Vermont, where they know him best. Qutzupalotl Mar 2016 #180

I think Sanders appeals to a lot of GOP voters. They're tired of the BS just like we are. snowy owl Mar 2016 #110

I heard on the radio that fox news and some conservatives may be considering throwing the election. Bubzer Mar 2016 #117

They would rather have the Democratic candidate win than Trump. Barack_America Mar 2016 #125

cool story bro dlwickham Mar 2016 #140

Or he believes FoxNews viewers deserve to hear his message too... Barack_America Mar 2016 #6

Or have a rally that EVERYONE is invited to Lorien Mar 2016 #10

Right on! ArcticFox Mar 2016 #24

I am proud to support a real Democrat that says FU to Faux News MaggieD Mar 2016 #26

Yeah. That's a great defeatist attitude for America. Just ignore those Americans. Barack_America Mar 2016 #32

I am proud to support a real Democrat that says FU to Faux News MaggieD Mar 2016 #33

You're plugging that "real Democrat" thing tonight. MelissaB Mar 2016 #37

"Real Democrat". Barack_America Mar 2016 #38

She's said it about a thousand times tonight. MelissaB Mar 2016 #43

Hmmm... a "real democrat" who lacks the ability to reach citizens on the other side of the isle... Bubzer Mar 2016 #77

If by the other side you mean the Democratic side Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #102

Oddly enough, no. I think you're right, she'll work great with the GOP. Corporations love them both! Bubzer Mar 2016 #113

she lacks the courage to stand up to the fox news people virtualobserver Mar 2016 #78

Why do you keep repeating yourself? tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #98

I am proud to support a real Democrat who isn't too proud to appeal to ALL Americans! Bubzer Mar 2016 #118

Trying to tap into Republicans for Socialism, eh? MaggieD Mar 2016 #120

Trying to tap into some red-baiting eh? It's okay... hillary doesn't have to have cross over appeal Bubzer Mar 2016 #129

Maggie!!! You slay me! bravenak Mar 2016 #136

A real democrat that "used" to a republican? Loudestlib Mar 2016 #138

Give me a break. They debate...his numbers and money go Up and her popularity goes Down. libdem4life Mar 2016 #208

Like when Obama gave an interview on Fox news with Billo? Autumn Mar 2016 #41

I am proud to support a real Democrat that says FU to Faux News MaggieD Mar 2016 #42

1001 MelissaB Mar 2016 #47

lol Bubzer Mar 2016 #79

I was having a bit of fun practicing my counting and she took her ball and went MelissaB Mar 2016 #88

Well darn....thats only slightly less satisfying (Oh I do tell a lie...it's certainly more!) Bubzer Mar 2016 #89

I'm just proud to support a real Democrat. Nice deflection on Obama appearing on Fox News though Autumn Mar 2016 #50

Hillary Clinton: "There Were A Lot Of Times When I Appreciated" Fox News During Primary. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #54

! MelissaB Mar 2016 #56

OMG Hillary on Fox News? Looks like Hillary and Obama don't say FU to Fox news after all Autumn Mar 2016 #59

a bunch of her surrogates became Faux News contributors AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #63

How dare you MelissaB Mar 2016 #69

lol AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #75

No, it doesn't. MelissaB Mar 2016 #81

Get of the cross we need the wood. timmymoff Mar 2016 #83

Preach.. VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #175

Hillary has been on Fox a number of times, so by YOUR OWN logic she isn't a 'Real Democrat' either. Lancero Mar 2016 #106

Hey Maggie, Hillary changed her mind - She wants in on Fox. Lancero Mar 2016 #197

Well I guess you are no longer a Hillary supporter! Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #199

Oh, good one. Touche (love it) BigBearJohn Mar 2016 #161

It's opinions like that the have the Democratic party in decline. Go Bernie. CentralMass Mar 2016 #109

Not How Americans Will View This DallasNE Mar 2016 #137

I like the way you think. Barack_America Mar 2016 #146

Me too... FarPoint Mar 2016 #151

MaggieD blindly and arrogantly underestimate Sanders. BIG TIME Check. desmiller Mar 2016 #153

Both Obama and Clinton appeared on Fox Shows in 2008 -- deliberatly Armstead Mar 2016 #162

Just like Obama, Go Vols Mar 2016 #173

Oh? bvar22 Mar 2016 #181

The GOP disagrees with you Lorien Mar 2016 #9

Hello, they invited Clinton... JackRiddler Mar 2016 #11

Republicans have such mature and reasoned political senses...Trump, Cruz and Rubio. Right. libdem4life Mar 2016 #23

And prolong the Democratic race Renew Deal Mar 2016 #31

Well said FarPoint Mar 2016 #62

But wrong. MelissaB Mar 2016 #66

My call, FarPoint Mar 2016 #72

Your choice and your vote...sure. And ours to point out why you're wrong. Bubzer Mar 2016 #87

No, it is not your place to tell me I am wrong. FarPoint Mar 2016 #145

HRC and Bill zentrum Mar 2016 #86

The slime never ends does it? I actually know several die hard Phlem Mar 2016 #95

He's not afraid of a hostile audience shawn703 Mar 2016 #97

Oh they will make sure it's all softballs MaggieD Mar 2016 #99

For Bernie, yes they would be shawn703 Mar 2016 #111

Democrats don't watch Faux News MaggieD Mar 2016 #114

Here's my reply to your...opinion: Bubzer Mar 2016 #126

Dems still don't watch Faux News MaggieD Mar 2016 #128

This message was self-deleted by its author Bubzer Mar 2016 #133

Psst. Barack_America Mar 2016 #141

But AMERICANS do. chknltl Mar 2016 #148

No, right wing assholes watch it MaggieD Mar 2016 #149

Well that response will make them think well of your candidate! chknltl Mar 2016 #154

Whatever. We don't need to suck up to Rethugs in a Dem primary MaggieD Mar 2016 #155

Not about your or my candidate chknltl Mar 2016 #157

Sorry - I don't belong to the Faux News suck up wing of the party MaggieD Mar 2016 #158

A Democrat first, an American second huh? chknltl Mar 2016 #159

Your opposition to right wing corporate media has been recognized. You outed yourself. lol NCTraveler Mar 2016 #169

Well this is pretty funny given Hillary changed her mind.. Kentonio Mar 2016 #198

This is awkward. (nt) noamnety Mar 2016 #184

Is that why you didn't know that both Hillary and Barack appeared on Fox? VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #176

Independents watch Fox News too shawn703 Mar 2016 #142

Fuck them, I guess, even though they're half the electorate. Barack_America Mar 2016 #147

To repeat -- Both Clinton and Obama went on Fox during the 2008 primary Armstead Mar 2016 #163

Oops. Hillary decided to go after all. Must signal absolute desperation, that so called liberal. wavesofeuphoria Mar 2016 #203

HRC is punishing FOX--Like Chris Christie intimidated Dems to support him, fearing retaliation! TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #112

Right. Stooping to answering questions on enemy turf. Now that *is* desperate. eggplant Mar 2016 #123

I really think you guys should pay more attention to hypothetical GE matchups. Arkana Mar 2016 #165

you are asking them to be reasonable. I don't think they can be. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #200

Silly! Hillary is already running against Bernie Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #170

I guess she's stooping now 😂 NWCorona Mar 2016 #190

Clinton's going to be on there too. tabasco Mar 2016 #196

It appears someone is a desperate gasp not to get buried in MI krawhitham Mar 2016 #205

I always thought Bernie's original idea of an inter-party primary debate was great RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #7

Fox - okay... dana_b Mar 2016 #8

An unreached audience tazkcmo Mar 2016 #104

yes, I hope so dana_b Mar 2016 #115

I have two brothers tazkcmo Mar 2016 #124

How do I get a ticket????? n/t Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #12

Right? Barack_America Mar 2016 #14

I am going to go hang out outside the Debate Sunday. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #16

Hillary only wants real pure Democrats to vote for her. Good luck getting elected. Nanjeanne Mar 2016 #13

Good for Hillary. There is no need to prop up aaaaaa5a Mar 2016 #15

+1 Lucinda Mar 2016 #27

Wonder what her supporters zentrum Mar 2016 #91

I'm becoming convinced they're all right wing propaganda outlets. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #94

Always have been.... think Mar 2016 #152

She has much to lose and little to gain La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2016 #121

no need to prop up a corporate owned dem timmymoff Mar 2016 #130

But Hillary will get things done! pinebox Mar 2016 #166

Mrs. Clinton will now be on Fox News bigwillq Mar 2016 #191

Trump must really be scaring the living shit out of them Ruby the Liberal Mar 2016 #17

I think so. Barack_America Mar 2016 #18

I know, right? Ruby the Liberal Mar 2016 #19

Yeah, they must be looking at Bernie's matchup scores with tRump. Would love a debate between them! JudyM Mar 2016 #60

That figures. Anything to trash Hillary. Town hall is a good cover. nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #20

Did you miss the part that she was invited too? Barack_America Mar 2016 #21

After the way they're going after Trump metroins Mar 2016 #29

Bernie won't do any trashing elmac Mar 2016 #80

Failure of Courage: Clinton Declines Fox Town Hall w/ Sanders nt kristopher Mar 2016 #22

I am proud to support a real Democrat that says FU to Faux News MaggieD Mar 2016 #30

You're posting the same thing over and over and over... MelissaB Mar 2016 #40

It apparently needs to be repeated MaggieD Mar 2016 #44

1002??? But it doesn't make it true. MelissaB Mar 2016 #49

isn't there a rule against spam, anyway? nt grasswire Mar 2016 #177

I suspect they regret it today. noamnety Mar 2016 #186

It seems Mrs. Clinton will now join Bernie on Fox News bigwillq Mar 2016 #192

She's too busy trying to find more money. All Bernie has to do is give his stump speech and libdem4life Mar 2016 #28

I actually checked, so doesn't seem to have a $2700 per plate... Barack_America Mar 2016 #34

That, or working on Talking Points for former staff with the FBI interviews pending. n/t libdem4life Mar 2016 #45

I'm not kidding, Huma! Barack_America Mar 2016 #55

I thought the same thing. If the Republicans can do it, so can we. No more Dynasties. libdem4life Mar 2016 #70

I guarantee he will win some people over in that town hall. Not by pandering, but by convincing them arcane1 Mar 2016 #36

Yep, you can't pander when you just lay our your vision for America, and back it up with libdem4life Mar 2016 #52

Bernie is not afraid to talk with anyone. Thom Hartmann for 10 years every friday and all litlbilly Mar 2016 #76

Exactly. CharlotteVale Mar 2016 #100

Has she hit up coal yet? Maybe the toxic waste lobby? Kittycat Mar 2016 #51

Good one ! libdem4life Mar 2016 #53

^^^ my first guess, too. nt magical thyme Mar 2016 #187

I heard somebody today say that Hillary would prefer not to do the remaining debates with Bernie BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #39

Oh well. I'm glad to support a candidate who will take tough questions. Barack_America Mar 2016 #46

She doesn't need to..... MaggieD Mar 2016 #48

Maybe it was a make-up date with Bain Capital. jalan48 Mar 2016 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Mar 2016 #58

This is simply priceless. I am definitely bookmarking this OP. nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #61

What, you won't be with Fox for the townhall? Barack_America Mar 2016 #64

I would go if asked. nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #68

Given your "perspective" can I ask what is so notable about this OP? Barack_America Mar 2016 #85

Well, I'm delighted that going on Fox has become such a laudable action. I'm hoping this change stevenleser Mar 2016 #174

^ this ^ I'm sure Fox wouldn't want someone on their network that didn't like Fox. Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #168

oh boy... dana_b Mar 2016 #65

??? Barack_America Mar 2016 #71

that's good dana_b Mar 2016 #74

Ah, okay. Barack_America Mar 2016 #82

Lol... dana_b Mar 2016 #90

Bernie does great in the Lions Den, just like Liberty University, he was awsome there. litlbilly Mar 2016 #67

Bernie is hardly afraid of Fox PatrynXX Mar 2016 #73

Be careful Bernie. That very scary Megyn Kelly is on that network... FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #84

He can handle Wallace and O'Reilly Mnpaul Mar 2016 #93

Entering the lion's den. Really. Wow. delrem Mar 2016 #92

Fox will take it easy on Bernie and go after Hillary. LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #96

Good for Bernie! one_voice Mar 2016 #101

Bawk? Tragl1 Mar 2016 #103

Particularly in the Midwest. Barack_America Mar 2016 #108

Bernie or Bust? Tragl1 Mar 2016 #116

These are traditionally Republican voters. Barack_America Mar 2016 #119

Fair point... Tragl1 Mar 2016 #131

i'm in brownbackistan and i've heard that some elana i am Mar 2016 #143

It looks that way to me too. CharlotteVale Mar 2016 #122

K&R Joe Shlabotnik Mar 2016 #105

Hard to admit on this forum but... snowy owl Mar 2016 #107

He went to Liberty University and spoke. Why not try to sway some of the opposition Feeling the Bern Mar 2016 #127

And he did. One of the Staff Ministers there wrote a long article on why he now supports Bernie. libdem4life Mar 2016 #211

They won't lay a hand on him. kstewart33 Mar 2016 #132

Actually, Bernie is the best chance at keeping Trump from winning... Barack_America Mar 2016 #135

This meme is So Old and Moldy. Bernie beats all of them handily. n/t libdem4life Mar 2016 #209

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #134

Hillarychicken. Loudestlib Mar 2016 #139

You don't seem to understand campaign strategy JohnnyRingo Mar 2016 #150

Strategy is one thing and perception another. Barack_America Mar 2016 #156

Well, today she "evolved" and decided to go on the Fox town hall after all. arcane1 Mar 2016 #185

Damn her JohnnyRingo Mar 2016 #195

Danger, Will Robinson!!! noamnety Mar 2016 #188

You got me JohnnyRingo Mar 2016 #194

Mrs. Clinton will now join Bernie on Fox News! bigwillq Mar 2016 #193

The underdog always wants more debates. JohnnyRingo Mar 2016 #144

"much to lose".....like having to answer questions and expose who one is Armstead Mar 2016 #164

GREAT! I hope he fully exploits this opportunity to appeal to Fox viewers and earn their votes FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #167

It's not courage: they're going to go soft on him before the nomination. nt Chichiri Mar 2016 #172

I doubt it, though you'd like to believe it fits into their nefarious agenda Armstead Mar 2016 #178

Michigan has an open primary. This is a brilliant move. bunnies Mar 2016 #179

Absolutlely. I know plenty of Independents planning on voting for him. Barack_America Mar 2016 #182

Kick (nt) bigwillq Mar 2016 #183

k&r noamnety Mar 2016 #189

Courage: Fox News to hold Democratic town hall with Hillary Clinton & Bernie Sanders in Detroit riversedge Mar 2016 #201

What an exciting new development that Hillary decided to attend after all... Barack_America Mar 2016 #207

Just HRC being HRC...the Flip Flop Queen. n/t libdem4life Mar 2016 #212

I wish they would boycott FOX "News", but... Mike Nelson Mar 2016 #202

why would anyone boycott more exposure? Macattack1 Mar 2016 #204

How exciting! We really need to keep this wonderful thread kicked until the debate. Autumn Mar 2016 #206

Ha. Ha. HA! Hillary didn't want Bernie to outcourage her! nc4bo Mar 2016 #210

There she goes again, following Bernie. I wonder how she managed to discharge the schedule conflict? libdem4life Mar 2016 #213