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2016 Postmortem

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jillan

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Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:38 PM Mar 2016

Boston Magazine now reporting on what is going on in New Bedford Mass [View all]

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http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2016/03/01/bill-clinton-massachusetts-voting-laws/

Did Bill Clinton, Mayor Walsh Break Massachusetts Voting Laws for Hillary?
Depends on your definition of ‘campaign materials.’

Adam Reilly ?@reillyadam
If I read the pool report right, @hillaryclinton's #1 surrogate--the former POTUS--worked Holy Name for 44 minutes. https://twitter.com/conoryunits/status/704765886205468672
1:33 PM - 1 Mar 2016

Adam Vaccaro ✔ ?@adamtvaccaro
Spokesman in Sec. of state's office says it has reached out to remind campaign of the rule. https://twitter.com/reillyadam/status/704745947499257856
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Adam Vaccaro ✔ ?@adamtvaccaro
Asked whether his presence constitutes campaigning: "He's a well known person. And he's a spouse of a candidate. That should answer the ?."
12:23 PM - 1 Mar 2016
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The former president was spotted in the Newton Free Library in Newton, as well as the Holy Name gymnasium in West Roxbury—both polling locations. He was joined at the latter by Boston Mayor Marty Walsh, a Clinton supporter.


Trouble is, that’s precisely what he and Walsh seem to be doing, according to the Secretary of the Commonwealth’s voting regulations.

“Within 150 feet of a polling place…no person shall solicit votes for or against, or otherwise promote or oppose, any person or political party or position on a ballot question, to be voted on at the current election,” the text reads. In addition, campaign operatives are prohibited from distributing “campaign material intended to influence the vote of a voter in the ongoing election” within 150 of a polling location.



WTG Bill!
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Attention: "Calling Trey Gowdy, calling Trey Gowdy TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #1
lol DrDan Mar 2016 #19
HAHAHA Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #65
cheaters cheaters....and I do believe the vote machines will be tampered with too. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #2
His being there could be the excuse... Skwmom Mar 2016 #8
Yep. The Bill incident gives them plausible deniability to cover for radical results actually GoneFishin Mar 2016 #52
That has nothing to do with campaigning w/in 150 feet of a polling place - which is Mass voting regs jillan Mar 2016 #15
I know that I also think because they want to win so bad that the machines bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #20
I wouldn't be surprised. jillan Mar 2016 #23
But he didn't campaign inside, he just shook hands with people passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #75
When they flagrantly, willfully break rules for everyone to see, pacalo Mar 2016 #16
Kick.. madfloridian Mar 2016 #3
He did not belong in or in earshot of SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #62
It is a form of voter intimidation. That's not simple disregard. How could he be so careless? The Wielding Truth Mar 2016 #89
I think "careless" covers it. He knew but didn't care. nt SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #95
That's not what I want in the next administration. sigh... The Repub's are even worse though. The Wielding Truth Mar 2016 #100
Let the apologetics... begin! Mufaddal Mar 2016 #4
They already have - just look at the first replies. jillan Mar 2016 #7
Sigh Mufaddal Mar 2016 #14
Do they have electronic voting machines there? monicaangela Mar 2016 #5
I don't know. Do they? jillan Mar 2016 #9
I believe Boston uses the optical scanner but... monicaangela Mar 2016 #17
It was proven in 2008 that the tabulators were incorrect after the county election. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #24
Bingo! monicaangela Mar 2016 #30
Like always rules don't apply to the Clintons. NT. WDIM Mar 2016 #6
WTF is he thinking? He is deliberately breaking the law. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #10
Yep. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #11
Win by crook...what is the saying bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #26
By hook or by crook monicaangela Mar 2016 #39
When has that ever stopped a Clinton? nt nichomachus Mar 2016 #27
He's just being himself....and to think I used to LOVE that jerk. Punkingal Mar 2016 #31
I loved him in since 1991 and I was furious for what the repugs did to him, but actually, thereismore Mar 2016 #33
Yep. It took me a long time but I woke up. Punkingal Mar 2016 #36
My oldest son is a child of the 90's dragonfly301 Mar 2016 #43
He's just holding a neutral seminar on banking. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #12
An honest candidate, who is SURE to win, would not need to do this n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #13
That would require an honest candidate, you can see the Clintons' problem here. /nt Dragonfli Mar 2016 #22
Bernie's got the enthusiasm in a country that is Clinton-weary. pacalo Mar 2016 #28
From the NYT madfloridian Mar 2016 #18
Wow! It's really getting press. The one who is to blame, imho, is the Mayor! jillan Mar 2016 #21
Oh geez Kittycat Mar 2016 #25
You don't think the Mayor is in bed with the Clintons...maybe a nice apointment bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #29
He's a Hillary supporter. jillan Mar 2016 #32
And he knows he is breaking the law but ya know when you are offered a good bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #40
Bill Clinton is a lawyer and has run a lot of campaigns. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #57
The mayor campaigned for Hillary in NH. nt Chezboo Mar 2016 #94
Bill broke no laws as reported so far. Gwhittey Mar 2016 #34
Just posted this below - here is the law, as posted by Boston Magazine jillan Mar 2016 #38
Billy boy not talk bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #41
"otherwise promote"...that's the part he absolutely broke. There is no other reason JimDandy Mar 2016 #68
Exactly. There is no HONEST way to claim this was some random visit to a random public place. arcane1 Mar 2016 #70
as long as he does not talk, AlbertCat Mar 2016 #83
He can talk--he just can't hand out buttons or say "Hey everyone, vote for my wife" MADem Mar 2016 #93
It is not illegal for candidates or their surrogates to be at polling places 72DejaVu Mar 2016 #35
In Mass they cannot be within 1500 feet, jillan Mar 2016 #37
Are you trying to claim that actually went to the booths with voters? 72DejaVu Mar 2016 #42
He was inside of the polling place and that is against rules and regs according to the sec of state. jillan Mar 2016 #44
Heads are spinning trying to come up with the right memo to counter this arcane1 Mar 2016 #46
I don't know what happened, I'm asking what is being alleged 72DejaVu Mar 2016 #47
Please read this - jillan Mar 2016 #50
"within the guard rail" 72DejaVu Mar 2016 #53
"Within 150 feet of a polling place" n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #55
150 feet. In my Los Angeles neighborhood, the average lot is 50 feet of the street lenght. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #58
No, what you're claiming is not what he was doing. MADem Mar 2016 #91
They weren't "solliciting" votes. What they were doing is entirely legal, sorry. MADem Mar 2016 #45
It's just the typical Clinton overstepping, noblesse oblige attitude. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #61
And if you find out that Sanders and/or his surrogates did the same thing.....? MADem Mar 2016 #69
Show me that they did in a state in which it is against the law. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #77
They are only limited by what they can get away without being caught or held accountable for. GoneFishin Mar 2016 #97
Just out for a stroll, of course, everybody believes that. I mean what else could it be? A Simple Game Mar 2016 #82
Don't be coy. MADem Mar 2016 #85
And don't think the rest of us are fools. A Simple Game Mar 2016 #111
Oh please. Intimidating? They were so intimidating that people were falling over themselves to MADem Mar 2016 #112
With a MEGAPHONE. Also reported voters couldn't get into vote.... AzDar Mar 2016 #106
There was no violation of law. Read through to the end. MADem Mar 2016 #48
This is from the office of the Sec of State of the Commonwealth jillan Mar 2016 #51
She should be disqualified from receiving delegates berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #49
shameless kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #54
He was probably just looking for young women. jalan48 Mar 2016 #56
Laws and rules are for the little people The Traveler Mar 2016 #59
There are reports of people not being able to vote, due to Bill's Hilarious HiJinks... AzDar Mar 2016 #60
What was that? And where? Ned_Devine Mar 2016 #64
They CLOSED OFF polling places while Slick Willy ( and the Mayor of New Bedford) CAMPAIGNED there... AzDar Mar 2016 #67
You do realize how absurd that sounds on its face. MADem Mar 2016 #74
Easy. They aren't as likely to be voting for Hillary in New Bedford. Only Bernie signs here. FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #84
Signs don't always translate to actual voter support, you know. nt MADem Mar 2016 #87
Every single post by you in this thread... dchill Mar 2016 #110
But, but...rules don't apply to the Clintons. SoapBox Mar 2016 #63
I'm sure he changed a lot of minds. if Bernie loses there tonight, blame Bill!!!! wyldwolf Mar 2016 #66
Seriously? He violated the election laws of the Commonwealth. It has nothing to do with votes. jillan Mar 2016 #71
link that says He violated the election laws of the Commonwealth? wyldwolf Mar 2016 #88
Would you care to back up that assertion with actual proof? Tarc Mar 2016 #105
Depends on zentrum Mar 2016 #72
the rules don't apply in the Clinton family Merryland Mar 2016 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author itsrobert Mar 2016 #76
Look people (please) the Clintons do not want Bernie to win MA which is what Bernie bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #78
If people actually support this bull shit bec Mar 2016 #79
Losers cheat to win. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #80
Well, he's slick Willy for a reason... Helen Borg Mar 2016 #81
There Are Rules, Then There's "The Clinton Way" gordyfl Mar 2016 #86
Here's an interesting link: Clinton was SCHEDULED to be in New Bedford since YESTERDAY. MADem Mar 2016 #90
Scheduled to speak outside the Buttonwood Park Warming House at 12:05pm Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #102
It is NOT illegal. I know you want it to be, but it's not. MADem Mar 2016 #107
I posted this in another thread on this topic: Mr.Bill Mar 2016 #92
This is exactly why I don't want him in the WH again The Blue Flower Mar 2016 #96
The most important thing to remember Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #98
In case you didn't figure it out years back mike dub Mar 2016 #99
I would get tired of making excuses for this campaign if I were in the business of doing so renate Mar 2016 #101
Bedford or NEW Bedford - two separate places in MA - like night and day Justice Mar 2016 #103
Fixed - thanks jillan Mar 2016 #104
Prison. Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #108
"I did not run interference for that wom...the former First Lady". n/t jtuck004 Mar 2016 #109
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