2016 Postmortem

Dem2

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48. It is over the top.

Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:06 AM

Feb 2016

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I like both candidates, but I first have to trash 10-20 slanderous attack threads before I open anything here. 90% of these are over-the-top fox-news-like attacks. Edit: to clarify, a small percentage of those I trash are attacks on Bernie, but Hillary enjoys the majority of the slanderous garbage dumped here.

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Constant attacks on Hillary Clinton around here are radical, off the rails, and ridiculous. [View all] RBInMaine Feb 2016 OP

It's a civil war...the corporatist establishment against the people hoosierlib Feb 2016 #1

Hillary is progressive and has worked to improve people's lives all her life. Enough hyperbole. RBInMaine Feb 2016 #4

Repeating falsehoods doesn't make them true. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #7

^^^THIS^^^ valerief Feb 2016 #52

+1 dchill Feb 2016 #54

Irrationality enabled by profound self-delusionment, Hortensis Feb 2016 #90

Speaking of irrationality... BeanMusical Feb 2016 #143

Try this: those spreading lies about Hillary are Hortensis Feb 2016 #148

exactly mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #189

You do realize she's done many things that have earned our disrespect of her Fawke Em Feb 2016 #202

The problem is that the "disrespect" of many Hortensis Feb 2016 #205

"IMO there is a profound self-indulgence to all this -- and a profound willful/determined ignorance bettyellen Feb 2016 #208

+1 betsuni Feb 2016 #210

+1 kristopher Feb 2016 #83

..+1 840high Feb 2016 #206

Lol...sure she has... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #8

Funny. bvf Feb 2016 #16

Cool story bro Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #24

I'm certain her time at Walmart JackInGreen Feb 2016 #34

Can't stand uninformed attacks. lark Feb 2016 #95

Hillary was on the board from 1986-1992 creatives4innovation Feb 2016 #142

can you just taste the Delusion? Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #87

Hillary is a corporatist, a warmonger, and a liar. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #168

It is not a civil war. It is not the corporatist establishment against the people. Squinch Feb 2016 #13

Of course he wasn't successful... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #17

So I guess the only problem you face is that there is a 1% and you're not part of it? Squinch Feb 2016 #21

Most certainly...and Bernie has been the more progressive record hoosierlib Feb 2016 #23

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #36

Most ignorant post of the day. Squinch Feb 2016 #39

Hillary = 1%, but you don't want to acknowledge it. nt earthshine Feb 2016 #107

Yes. Hillary is wealthy. And? Squinch Feb 2016 #112

D'uh! She represents her ilk. nt earthshine Feb 2016 #138

Kennedy was wealthy, FDR was wealthy, Carter was pretty wealthy, TR the trustbusting Squinch Feb 2016 #140

And those great men had far more integrity than the Clintons ever did. earthshine Feb 2016 #145

For someone who thinks I am not worth arguing with, you sure are chatting with me a lot. Squinch Feb 2016 #153

It is not always a matter of wealth but one's behavior. pangaia Feb 2016 #158

Hillary Carolina Feb 2016 #193

And you are supporting the pro-DOMA candidate tohelp LGBT people? eridani Feb 2016 #212

Are you making this up of do you have proof? Perogie Feb 2016 #22

None of those actually works against the corporate establishment. Squinch Feb 2016 #33

His very existance hinders the coporate establishment... geologic Feb 2016 #92

In what way? Squinch Feb 2016 #141

Tell us another one bro Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #26

What is Bernie's signature accomplishment in curtailing the corporate establishment? Squinch Feb 2016 #35

Tell us one major thing Hillary has done to curtail the corporate establishment Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #38

OK, I'll help you out. Bernie is the one who is running on the fact that he is going to take down Squinch Feb 2016 #62

So help me out. List Hillary's accomplishments now. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #64

Which puts him in "Laws Enacted at the highest 25% among Serving 10+ Years; tied with 5 others" Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #65

And he has proven his ability to take down the corporate establishment in which of those three? Squinch Feb 2016 #69

And tell us where Hillary is in this? Or should I? Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #71

She isn't claiming to be leading a revolution. By renaming post offices. Squinch Feb 2016 #73

No your right I agree she doesn't. What she does claim changes by the hour. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author geologic Feb 2016 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author geologic Feb 2016 #120

Cuz she ain't... geologic Feb 2016 #122

What are you doing? Squinch Feb 2016 #126

Bernie Sanders "Bills Out of Committee highest 15% among All Senators; tied with 2 others" Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #67

Yes. He sponsors record numbers of bills. None of them get passed. Squinch Feb 2016 #72

Tell us about Hillary's record. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #75

Cosponsors highest 20% among All Senators Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #70

You realize the "Squinch" is not worth arguing with. earthshine Feb 2016 #117

Yeah I was getting that idea. Thanks for the heart!! Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #123

Huh. And yet there you are upthread arguing with me. Go figure. Squinch Feb 2016 #125

It's important for you (and people who think like you) nyabingi Feb 2016 #197

what is Hillary's signature accomplishment on ANYTHING?! Carolina Feb 2016 #194

Wow Oilwellian Feb 2016 #201

Preach! jonestonesusa Feb 2016 #207

Here you go: Squinch Feb 2016 #211

Thats it? Nothing to rein in Corporate America? The very thing you were screaming about Bernie? Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #213

Exactly! Carolina Feb 2016 #214

Agree! Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #215

Bernie's schtick is reining in corporate America. Hers before she entered the Squinch Feb 2016 #216

Lol its already listed by another poster so spare me your dribble. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #217

Then it should be no trouble for you to post it here. Squinch Feb 2016 #218

Functionally illiterate? It is on this OP, look it up your damn self. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #220

We both know that means you have nothing. We also both know you will never admit that, Squinch Feb 2016 #221

Lol...If you say so. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #222

Among Democrats it's generally understood by non-morons that the most important outcome Squinch Feb 2016 #223

Among 3rd way Vichy "Dems" your ongoing tactics don't surprise me at all. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #224

VA enid602 Feb 2016 #37

Very good point. Squinch Feb 2016 #63

Have you read this? kristopher Feb 2016 #84

I don't dispute that. I dispute that Bernie has ever done or will ever do anything to change that. Squinch Feb 2016 #85

WTH?? Of course you disputed that!!! kristopher Feb 2016 #88

It is not the corporatist establishment against the people. Squinch Feb 2016 #99

Hillary is taking millions from the corporate lobbyists - right now. kristopher Feb 2016 #132

You love your memes don't you? passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #106

You say meme, I say description of actual events. Potato, potahto. Squinch Feb 2016 #110

You can have an opinion but you can't make up facts passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #116

And in that fight of his whole life, he has gotten precious little done. Squinch Feb 2016 #119

Again, your opinion, your meme passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #135

Well, no. That IS a fact. Squinch Feb 2016 #136

I dare you to read this passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #144

Look carefully at that list. Squinch Feb 2016 #149

Put up a comparison to anyone else and show me what he "could" have done passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #159

No. I need to look at what he has done and decide for myself if I think that record supports the Squinch Feb 2016 #161

Oh, I should have included this passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #163

Well then those don't really count as accomplishments, do they? Squinch Feb 2016 #165

Sanders has been successful sgmcenroe Feb 2016 #109

See post 33, responding to the Squinch Feb 2016 #118

Dubbed the Ammendment King creatives4innovation Feb 2016 #146

But only 3 that he sponsored were made into law. And two of those were about naming the same post Squinch Feb 2016 #150

From Wikipedia for Senator Clinton creatives4innovation Feb 2016 #178

Yes, but unlike Bernie, she is not promising a revolution. She is open about Squinch Feb 2016 #182

She's promising more stagnation and corporatism. That's fuckin problem. JRLeft Feb 2016 #195

Your message is self contradictory... basselope Feb 2016 #155

great post mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #190

she vacays with Kissinger. that is all. Truly. roguevalley Feb 2016 #166

The funny thing is that some of you really believe this. Beacool Feb 2016 #173

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #2

Exactly. nt. bullimiami Feb 2016 #3

It comes from the combination of a big Bernie majority here and the silly jury system. Squinch Feb 2016 #5

You nailed it! Empowerer Feb 2016 #14

+1 betsuni Feb 2016 #15

bingo DrDan Feb 2016 #20

Yes, indeed. This Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #44

Ouch, er out;damn spot... geologic Feb 2016 #94

I call bullshit on that nonsense. I have had posts hidden for the most innocuous reasons. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #49

You're describing the exception Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #59

This was NOT hidden: Squinch Feb 2016 #76

I didn't say it. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #77

No, but this is just one illustration of the fact that Bernie supporters can Squinch Feb 2016 #80

Did you alert on that post? You should have. earthshine Feb 2016 #137

About 14 people alerted on it. It went to MIRT. I and three others made posts Squinch Feb 2016 #139

It's too bad about the profanity-laden post. It shouldn't have been that way. earthshine Feb 2016 #147

A tool for peer-reviewed civility and courtesy is now a weapon ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #50

Why??? Please do tell... geologic Feb 2016 #96

Not a chance! (I'm smarter than some think I am.) NurseJackie Feb 2016 #103

You sure? cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #176

That was gratuitously nasty. Squinch Feb 2016 #183

This message was self-deleted by its author Fawke Em Feb 2016 #203

Exactly right. nt Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #56

Bullshit I've had plenty of posts hidden by Hillary supporters. JRLeft Feb 2016 #98

Then they must have been pretty damn awful. Squinch Feb 2016 #102

No, it's called censorship by the way I've called out BS supporters for censorship too. JRLeft Feb 2016 #114

Well if they weren't awful, you are very unlucky. The odds are about 90-10 in your favor. Squinch Feb 2016 #130

Bullshit, I had a post calling Hillary a Democratic equivalent of Nixon hidden by the Hillarians. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #167

As I said above, it must either have been a really awful post, or you were really unlucky. The odds Squinch Feb 2016 #169

Truth hurts. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #170

Yeah. I can see how you might say something that might offend even those on your own side. Squinch Feb 2016 #171

Hear, hear!!!! Beacool Feb 2016 #174

Oh, no. I think that came up early. But iirc it was hidden. Squinch Feb 2016 #179

Wow......... Beacool Feb 2016 #184

It's not changing anyone's vote. My ignore list is long in the 12 years I've been here, I never used livetohike Feb 2016 #6

As is mine mcar Feb 2016 #27

For the umpteenth time: Karma13612 Feb 2016 #9

Here's one. Hillary chose to believe the Bush administration which resulted in her voting to bring Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #10

It is apparent to those of us who don't have a strong opinion for either candidate Happyhippychick Feb 2016 #11

Well that's not an unbiased statement notadmblnd Feb 2016 #81

Constant attacks on Bernie and his supporters around here are radical, off the rails, and djean111 Feb 2016 #12

You sound like the little kid who, not being clever enough to challenge his big sister Empowerer Feb 2016 #18

0-7. I was #3. Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2016 #60

And then run to Mommy and Daddy when they don't get their way ... Empowerer Feb 2016 #66

No problem. Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2016 #68

What the Bernie supporter said was not juvenile. malletgirl02 Feb 2016 #111

I agree. Clinton's desperation is being mirrored by her supporters eom noiretextatique Feb 2016 #177

"You sound like the little kid who, not being clever enough to challenge his "BIG SISTER"... geologic Feb 2016 #101

DU jury results. malletgirl02 Feb 2016 #131

killin it uponit7771 Feb 2016 #160

A pro-Kissinger corporatist should get pushback. Broward Feb 2016 #19

And you of course are as pure as the new fallen snow when it comes to Bernie hobbit709 Feb 2016 #25

He was pretty pure about Hillary last time around Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #41

Thanks for finding again. Broward Feb 2016 #121

I think DU might have tape worms... LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #28

you missed one, "Hillary killed Scalia" still_one Feb 2016 #29

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT!!! geologic Feb 2016 #104

Like listening to a bunch of damn parrots mindlessly repeating stupid nonsense. betsuni Feb 2016 #30

Meta-crap. Will not alert since it is so damned amusing. Bonobo Feb 2016 #31

The choice is simple. 99Forever Feb 2016 #32

Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Differently cantbeserious Feb 2016 #40

Hillary Progressive? Maybe when she's hanging out with the Wall Street crowd. jalan48 Feb 2016 #42

... your nearly daily screeds like this are beyond tiring. Myrina Feb 2016 #43

Sorry you feel that way casperthegm Feb 2016 #45

yep azureblue Feb 2016 #46

There's a "Hillary killed feminism" one. KILLED. Hillary murders everything and everyone. betsuni Feb 2016 #47

It is over the top. Dem2 Feb 2016 #48

I disagree with this OP and agree with most of the counter posts here. nt ladjf Feb 2016 #51

It's the endless repetition that gets me DFW Feb 2016 #53

Hillary supporters also attack Bernie Sanders. malletgirl02 Feb 2016 #55

If the shoe fits.... Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #57

Here is some advice, ALERT THEM or quit whining. nt Logical Feb 2016 #58

lol Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #61

Stop lecturing people. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #78

How many of these attacks are really undercover RW operations? Sancho Feb 2016 #79

You forgot her warmongering and corporate toe sucking CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #82

+1000000! RiverLover Feb 2016 #86

Totally agree workinclasszero Feb 2016 #89

Just tryin' to keep it from becoming the DNCGROUND... geologic Feb 2016 #113

He may catnhatnh Feb 2016 #91

Sickening. I lost all respect for those types. DCBob Feb 2016 #97

When the Clinton campaign sgmcenroe Feb 2016 #100

I'm more concerned with the constant attacks regarding her policies and character Android3.14 Feb 2016 #105

HRC has earned the criticism Got it Feb 2016 #108

I absolutely agree. BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #115

What a joke Scalded Nun Feb 2016 #124

Exactly! Carolina Feb 2016 #196

Scroll up and down SheenaR Feb 2016 #127

Bernie may be our last best chance yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #128

Stating the truth is not an attack. hopeforchange2008 Feb 2016 #129

Well, I'm not making that pledge. earthside Feb 2016 #133

Right back atcha, RB! BillZBubb Feb 2016 #134

exactly mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #151

As someone who likes both candidates, it is a cesspool in here. Both sides piss me off. n/t kerry-is-my-prez Feb 2016 #187

I will agree surprised? mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #188

This has occurred to loads of people- many have left for a while.... bettyellen Feb 2016 #209

She voted for the Iraq War basselope Feb 2016 #152

"Reality"? GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #154

Hearing a lot of platitutdes and no actual defense against any claim made Fearless Feb 2016 #156

Here's an idea... Tell her to "CUT IT OUT!" MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #157

Hmm, I'm not seeing any of those. How about you Hillary supporters talk about the ISSUES Lorien Feb 2016 #162

WOW! I said as much below, but love all your citations Carolina Feb 2016 #198

Insane really treestar Feb 2016 #164

I try to not take it personally. Beacool Feb 2016 #172

There is yet another "Bernie is racist" thread eom noiretextatique Feb 2016 #175

Bernie's supporters post a few basic facts about Hillary... Califonz Feb 2016 #180

Exactly Carolina Feb 2016 #199

Its pretty bad yet really sad. kydo Feb 2016 #181

On the bright side ... those days will be coming to an end ... VERY SOON!! NurseJackie Feb 2016 #185

A lot of it started when Hillary supporters painted Bernie as a racist. B Calm Feb 2016 #186

There is nonsense and ridiculousness on both sides. Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #191

Sometimes it's hard to believe DesertRat Feb 2016 #192

This is meta RobertEarl Feb 2016 #200

I no longer see a meaningful difference between the National Review and The Nation. Dawson Leery Feb 2016 #204

When I pointed out that Hillary's character was the one that was being destroyed, Beacool Feb 2016 #219