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anAustralianobserver

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Fri Oct 5, 2012, 08:17 PM Oct 2012

Were the MSNBC pundits spooked into groupthink by the debate 'snap polls'? [View all]

If Obama had been as rude, manic and uncomfortable to watch as Romney was, and displayed that bizarre frozen contemptuous smile - and if there were no dubious snap polls to bias first impressions - would the punditocracy have felt they needed to declare Obama the winner on style/theatrics?

Or would a consensus have emerged that Obama theatrically came off as a little unhinged, flighty, bizarre, a loose cannon and so on - and may have blown it?

I was more alarmed by the MSNBC punditry jumping to their consensus (Al Sharpton being an exception from what I saw) than I was by Obama's relatively passive but competent and cohesive performance.

How will the MSNBC pundits react if snap polls right after the second or third presidential debate say Romney won 55-45?

I'm worried they'll be suckered into stating it was a "draw on style, a win for Obama on substance" or some similar feebleness, and that this might work to crystallise the perception of these debates.

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Thinking back to 2008... union_maid Oct 2012 #1
Hmm they mostly have been pretty independent minded and on-beam, but I wonder in this case anAustralianobserver Oct 2012 #5
Dunno; maybe. elleng Oct 2012 #2
I saw a bit of Lawrence but not Martin Bashir yet :) anAustralianobserver Oct 2012 #25
No, they were upset like many of us were budkin Oct 2012 #3
Exactly... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #6
I thought Obama got off to a weak start with his response to 'trickle-down government' anAustralianobserver Oct 2012 #10
It wasn't worse brush Oct 2012 #21
I remember Romney did effectively seed some doubts about the 716B, and that Obama's anAustralianobserver Oct 2012 #28
Upset?! I thought they were gonna need a tranquilizer gun for Chris Matthews. gkhouston Oct 2012 #24
Why do they have those jobs then? treestar Oct 2012 #34
I dpn't think they were... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #4
Right that's interesting because I didn't see it live and wondered about that. anAustralianobserver Oct 2012 #8
I watched the debate for about 1/2 hour. Grateful for Hope Oct 2012 #7
Yes my girlfriend had the same reaction to his bully tactics and couldn't watch after half an hour. anAustralianobserver Oct 2012 #12
I so hope you are right. Grateful for Hope Oct 2012 #13
Yeah I'm hoping if a spontaneous zinger or 2 comes to mind in the next ones that he'll use it :) anAustralianobserver Oct 2012 #22
Of course they were courseofhistory Oct 2012 #9
Yeah the wrestling comparison is good. But I think that mainly fed the bully base anAustralianobserver Oct 2012 #14
A lot of Obama bashing, none for Romney brush Oct 2012 #11
That's good to hear that at least one watch party thought he won :) anAustralianobserver Oct 2012 #16
Forgive a man Harry_Scrote Oct 2012 #15
I agree. I could see that was part of why he was often looking down. anAustralianobserver Oct 2012 #18
No ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #17
How long after did they report the snap polls? anAustralianobserver Oct 2012 #20
10 to 15 minutes after ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #29
I see, thanks. Will be interesting to see CH's show this weekend. anAustralianobserver Oct 2012 #30
Lawrence Wasn't, and i think he has better understanding JI7 Oct 2012 #19
Yeah I'm curious to see Rachel's latest show to see how she'll qualify her "Romney won on anAustralianobserver Oct 2012 #23
yes they were... madrchsod Oct 2012 #26
Why was Obama's performance their TOP STORY? grasswire Oct 2012 #27
Yeah sounds like they forgot for a time that CNN, FOX, the blogosphere etc would be looking to them anAustralianobserver Oct 2012 #31
Unrec brooklynite Oct 2012 #32
Yes I concede it wasn't just the snap polls, anAustralianobserver Oct 2012 #33
TV pundits are groupthink-mongers Telly Savalas Oct 2012 #35
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