2016 Postmortem

99th_Monkey

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16. According to Snopes: Bernie marched in 1963, Hillary was a Goldwater Girl in 1964.

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:08 AM

Feb 2016

Hillary didn't 'see the light' until 1968 when she campaigned for Eugene McCarthy, another
non-starter, since most AA's were wildly & enthusiastically supporting Bobby Kennedy in
that Primary, until he was murdered.

http://www.snopes.com/goldwater-girl/

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Mother Jones: Lewis remark "undoubtedly true," Bernie's civil rights activism "brief and localized" [View all] ucrdem Feb 2016 OP

Lewis was a leader bravenak Feb 2016 #1

I just added that ucrdem Feb 2016 #2

And where did Lewis see Hillary again? I don't think he did see her .. unless.. 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #3

As a student in Chicago she met MLK before Bernie saw him in DC. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #8

She met John Lewis before Bill met him? Autumn Feb 2016 #12

I don't know. I just know she met MLK before Bernie saw him in DC. nt SunSeeker Feb 2016 #14

Do you have the back story on that? Autumn Feb 2016 #15

It's BS ... please see this 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #17

She was 17 at that time, at 21 she worked on Rockefeller's presidential campaign it was after Autumn Feb 2016 #82

Hillary was introduced to Dr. King by her teacher, Don Jones, in 1962. ucrdem Feb 2016 #24

That proves just the opposite of what you want. She met him, and THEN supported Goldwater in 1964. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #30

Only after putting it through re-edumication. nt ucrdem Feb 2016 #32

You did not address the point of the post. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #34

"Goldwater girl" is not a point, it's a meme. In any case it's not the issue here. nt ucrdem Feb 2016 #42

It's a corner you walked yourself into. Too bad you couldn't find your way out. n/t JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #45

Hillary campaigned for a Democrat in 1968. Bernie BECAME a Democrat last month. ucrdem Feb 2016 #48

Yet in 1968 after Eugene McCarthy she was invited to help Republican Governor Nelson Rockefeller's Autumn Feb 2016 #64

Do you mean meeting MLK in 1962? ucrdem Feb 2016 #67

No January 1963 was the date she used in her Selma speech in 2007. Autumn Feb 2016 #71

Did she march? Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #74

She worked on Rockefeller's campaign in 1968 and Autumn Feb 2016 #85

One wonders why she worked for a clear racist (Goldwater), then left the party over "veiled" racism. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #86

Slightly different from her account in 2007 Autumn Feb 2016 #47

Different how? ucrdem Feb 2016 #53

Unlike that account she never mentioned meeting MLK in her remarks at the First Baptist Church Autumn Feb 2016 #69

Interesting difference in their memory of the name of karynnj Feb 2016 #104

According to Snopes: Bernie marched in 1963, Hillary was a Goldwater Girl in 1964. 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #16

According to Bernie, he didn't march in 1963. ucrdem Feb 2016 #19

Well, I never said Bernie was "at MLK's side" in any march 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #21

Hillary had been introduced personally to Dr. King a year earlier, in 1962. ucrdem Feb 2016 #26

Perhaps, but this is Hillary's own website, not an independent source 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #27

OnTheIssues is not Hillary's own website. Good grief. ucrdem Feb 2016 #29

Way to deflect the very appropriate question posed. n/t JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #31

Outrageous baloney seems to captivate the independent crowd. nt ucrdem Feb 2016 #36

Sorry if I mistook on the issues for Hill's website 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #38

I thought Dr King was a Republican, too. LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #94

So that subsequently inspired her heavily to become a Republican leader and support Goldwater.. cascadiance Feb 2016 #55

She never voted for Goldwater and in any case Dr. King was non-partisan. nt ucrdem Feb 2016 #57

She SUPPORTED Goldwater!!!! Whether she voted for him isn't the issue! cascadiance Feb 2016 #66

You're also aware of this "misstatement" by John Lewis? Duppers Feb 2016 #91

Well, Bernie was a student in Chicago in 1963 Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #40

Hillary was for civil rights too. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #46

So she was for civil rights Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #49

She worked for the McGovern Campaign. She registered poor Latinos to vote in Texas. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #52

OK, so that was 1972, in Texas Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #62

So what was Bernie doing in 1972? nt SunSeeker Feb 2016 #68

I don't know Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #70

Here, this is what Bernie was doing in 1972: SunSeeker Feb 2016 #75

Fast forward 10 years Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #97

Yup, only on Red State and DU is Bill beating a Creationist nut bag described as a bad thing. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #107

Hillary 78-79' catnhatnh Feb 2016 #108

Link? SunSeeker Feb 2016 #109

Sure... catnhatnh Feb 2016 #111

The Wiki link you provide is only to the first paragraph. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #112

That's pretty awful writing--glad he found something he was better at. nt bklyncowgirl Feb 2016 #98

When she was old enough to vote *today* and serve in Vietnam if she were male... cascadiance Feb 2016 #59

She left her father's party because of its anti-civil rights stance. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #77

Good lord, are we done yet with this? Meanwhile, Hillary was a Goldwater Girl. Where is all the libdem4life Feb 2016 #4

Aren't you interested in Bernie's civil rights activism? ucrdem Feb 2016 #6

Went right over your head, seems. The subject in my post was two young people and where libdem4life Feb 2016 #11

In a word, No. No more than I'm holding HRCs Republican years against her. libdem4life Feb 2016 #115

Well, fortunately, there aren't any dire issues that we need to discuss deutsey Feb 2016 #110

Bernie was active in his community. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #5

K&R! californiabernin Feb 2016 #7

Sort of like Hillary's brief stint as a Republican? The same time frame Bernie Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #9

Apparently Hillary met Lewis before Bernie ever laid eyes on him. ucrdem Feb 2016 #13

She was still was a Republican and gosh she met Lewis too thats a cool story bro. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #18

"In 1962, Don Jones, the youth minister at Hillary's church took Hillary and her class to hear a spe ucrdem Feb 2016 #20

Gosh she listened to a speech? Cool Story Bro! Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #22

She did. She also met the speaker who happened to be MLK. Not observed, met, in 1962. nt ucrdem Feb 2016 #23

Looks like she learned zip from the meeting except how to politically capitalize on it. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #25

Who's tweeting disputed selfies to try to prove their civil rights cred? ucrdem Feb 2016 #28

"disputed selfies"? Wut? Do you even know what a selfie is? And it isn't disputed, anyway. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #33

You dont have a clue what your talking about do you. Just word salad. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #37

Who's disputing confirmed pictures to try and discredit another's civil right's cred? Lordquinton Feb 2016 #88

She also learned enough to support Goldwater 2 years later. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #39

She was too young to vote in 1964 and campaigned for Eugene McCarthy in 1968. ucrdem Feb 2016 #50

Too young for MLK to have made an impression not to support Goldwater too, I see. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #51

She was in HS. Her father was Republican. At Wellesley she campaigned for Eugene McCarthy. nt ucrdem Feb 2016 #56

Too bad MLK and the struggle for equal rights didn't make a significant impression on her. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #61

Please ask your ouija board to say hi to my dearly departed. nt ucrdem Feb 2016 #63

She was President of the College Young Republicans in 1965 at Wellesley . Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2016 #65

She attended the 1968 Republican National Convention in Miami when she worked on Autumn Feb 2016 #76

"meeting" someone means absolutely nothing renate Feb 2016 #90

your link merits a careful read 6chars Feb 2016 #72

If you can't win on issues, see if you can tear down the person. nm rhett o rick Feb 2016 #10

That's apparently all she's got. Bluster with a creamy filling. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #60

So, Everything Bernie Said Is True. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #35

Lewis' comments can be seen as a mild dig at Sanders. DJ13 Feb 2016 #41

Yes! YESSS please continue to minimize the work that a great man did for PoC! retrowire Feb 2016 #43

I'm not going to listen to a Hillary shill tell me how to think AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #44

Bernie has spent his life dedicated to social and economic justrice Armstead Feb 2016 #54

The OP's linked article merits reading 6chars Feb 2016 #58

Yep. The op's framing is b.s. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2016 #79

If you can't fight the facts fight the "framing" eh? ucrdem Feb 2016 #80

If you can't fight the facts, frame them and hope nobody reads them Lordquinton Feb 2016 #87

Why is it that people who fought against racism Lint Head Feb 2016 #73

It's great that he got involved in college. But that was over half a century ago. nt ucrdem Feb 2016 #78

So what a person does on the past is irrelavant? Any Lint Head Feb 2016 #81

What he's done in Congress the last 26 years is far more relevant. ucrdem Feb 2016 #83

The photographer said it 'is' Bernie. It's a reporter Lint Head Feb 2016 #84

You know, it's really fucked that you're still trying to sell that shit jhart3333 Feb 2016 #93

The photographer says he doesn't remember taking it. ucrdem Feb 2016 #102

Danny Lyon's response to more Time Magazine lies Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #113

here Lint Head Feb 2016 #114

I think your point is a great one... Docreed2003 Feb 2016 #89

Rovian swiftboating AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #92

Sigh... all these facts and stuff uponit7771 Feb 2016 #95

I find it disgusting Bernie's activism is being denigrated. Vinca Feb 2016 #96

So 2 years. In the life of someone in his early twenties, that's a substantial commitment cali Feb 2016 #99

"Brief and localized" ... very interesting! NurseJackie Feb 2016 #100

Yes, that seems to cover it, and it leaves 53 years unaccounted for. ucrdem Feb 2016 #101

To hear his fans describe it, one could easily come away with the impression ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #106

k&r DesertRat Feb 2016 #103

As if anyone claimed that Lewis wasn't a major force in civil rights or that Bernie was his equal. aikoaiko Feb 2016 #105