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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Does Sanders' college plan really rely on governors to release funds? [View all]alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)58. I don't think I'm missing any of that
The middle class have been disappearing for over 30 years. I agree
The number of those living underneath the poverty line has increased dramatically. The rich are getting richer. The poor are getting poorer and the people are pissed. I agree mostly. People are always pissed. Whether enough of them are more pissed now and can direct that anger toward political gains is another story.
It may sound like a fantasy but if you study history this does happen from time to time. I do study history.
When the people feel the government is too corrupt and no longer represents them they fight back. Sometimes.
Whether with a full blown revolution like the Labor Movement or just an anti-establishment sentiment during the election cycle it does happen and it his happening now. There's anti-establishment sentiment during many election cycles. It usually doesn't end up with a complete run of the table that allows you to institute whatever policy you damn well please, which seems to be the only reasoning used to defend how any of the programs we're hearing about are feasible.
As of now, I'm hearing that we'll need to complete transform the Congress, and completely reshuffle the governorships, and (next, I'm sure) completely transform the state legislatures. How? Well, people are pissed! History tells me so.
That's nice. It just doesn't sound very thought through.
The number of those living underneath the poverty line has increased dramatically. The rich are getting richer. The poor are getting poorer and the people are pissed. I agree mostly. People are always pissed. Whether enough of them are more pissed now and can direct that anger toward political gains is another story.
It may sound like a fantasy but if you study history this does happen from time to time. I do study history.
When the people feel the government is too corrupt and no longer represents them they fight back. Sometimes.
Whether with a full blown revolution like the Labor Movement or just an anti-establishment sentiment during the election cycle it does happen and it his happening now. There's anti-establishment sentiment during many election cycles. It usually doesn't end up with a complete run of the table that allows you to institute whatever policy you damn well please, which seems to be the only reasoning used to defend how any of the programs we're hearing about are feasible.
As of now, I'm hearing that we'll need to complete transform the Congress, and completely reshuffle the governorships, and (next, I'm sure) completely transform the state legislatures. How? Well, people are pissed! History tells me so.
That's nice. It just doesn't sound very thought through.
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Does Sanders' college plan really rely on governors to release funds? [View all]
alcibiades_mystery
Feb 2016
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So this is another thing we have to suppose that a groundswell of support
alcibiades_mystery
Feb 2016
#6
We need to work to get more liberals in Congress no matter who our next President is.
liberal_at_heart
Feb 2016
#50
I'm not talking about the Congressional approval, which is challenging enough
alcibiades_mystery
Feb 2016
#51
Yes, we must work to get more liberal governors as well. Bernie has always said he is not the
liberal_at_heart
Feb 2016
#55
It sounds increasingly like "We'll get all the policies we want if we control the whole political
alcibiades_mystery
Feb 2016
#56
I think you are missing something. The middle class have been disappearing for over
liberal_at_heart
Feb 2016
#57
Whatever. I am so tired of this being asked of Bernie and not asked of Hillary. She will have just
liberal_at_heart
Feb 2016
#59
Yep, and governorships if healthcare and education are to improve. It is a 12-16 year commitment.
bettyellen
Feb 2016
#54
The federal government can mandate a lot from state and even private colleges and universities
alcibiades_mystery
Feb 2016
#7
Well, you'd need two groundswells: the one that forces Congressional Republicans
alcibiades_mystery
Feb 2016
#20
It's paid for with tax on Wall Street transactions. No not sure why anyone thinks
onecaliberal
Feb 2016
#26
Is it true that governors would have to approve disbursement to their state institutions?
alcibiades_mystery
Feb 2016
#28
The federal government will incentivize Bruce Rauner, and Scott Walker, and Sam Brownbeck
alcibiades_mystery
Feb 2016
#32
Walker turned down Medicaid expansion and high speed rail money, HRC was right.
PeaceNikki
Feb 2016
#38
Sanders filed a bill "College for All Act" in May 2015, after he announced. I would find it
seaglass
Feb 2016
#33
Jay-zuz...We can't even get Rauner to disburse funds already promised
alcibiades_mystery
Feb 2016
#34