2016 Postmortem

OilemFirchen

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16. Apparently, slander and libel have been redefined as part of the "revolution".

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:43 PM

Feb 2016

I remember back in the good ole days, both required an actual lie, with an actual intent to harm, and actual knowledge that the utterance was false.

Strange days.

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"Photogate" is a crock. Capehart did NOT slander or libel Sanders. [View all] Empowerer Feb 2016 OP

They are wasting precious time on this. bravenak Feb 2016 #1

Oh well. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #45

I told them bravenak Feb 2016 #51

It keeps them busy. Everyone needs a hobby. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #89

But it is so sad, I cant stop dwelling bravenak Feb 2016 #108

FIFY mhatrw Feb 2016 #133

+1 nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #166

We can multitask. frylock Feb 2016 #98

+1 Amaril Feb 2016 #105

Not seeing it bravenak Feb 2016 #107

You're not looking. frylock Feb 2016 #109

Watching people get up in arms over minor stuff while votes sit on the table waiting for Aunt bravenak Feb 2016 #110

Lies, slander... minor stuff. frylock Feb 2016 #111

Stuff that gets no votes, yes bravenak Feb 2016 #113

Ummmm... okay? frylock Feb 2016 #121

FIFY mhatrw Feb 2016 #134

Show me where BERNIE claims it was himself and I will believe it bravenak Feb 2016 #137

Show me where Bruce Rappaport claims it was himself. mhatrw Feb 2016 #148

Bruce died bravenak Feb 2016 #150

What motivated retired lawyer Sally Cook to contact the U of C archives to "correct" mhatrw Feb 2016 #155

She thought it wasnt him. bravenak Feb 2016 #156

Sally Cook conceded that she could not "say for certain the man is not Sanders." mhatrw Feb 2016 #160

Ok. This is too much ct for me, I cant go there right now. bravenak Feb 2016 #162

Do you think Hillary is happy that we are discussing Bernie? bravenak Feb 2016 #114

I don't couldn't care less what Hillary thinks. frylock Feb 2016 #118

Keep doing her this huge favor if you want, I'll be over here bravenak Feb 2016 #122

Yeah, people everywhere are basing their votes upon what I post. frylock Feb 2016 #123

Agreed bravenak Feb 2016 #125

I AM IRON MAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNN! frylock Feb 2016 #126

LOL. So they're talking about two different photos. Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #2

Yes, they are Empowerer Feb 2016 #4

No. We're not. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #18

It's not about photos. No one knows fawke Hortensis Feb 2016 #132

FIFY mhatrw Feb 2016 #135

Gnash and snarl. Hortensis Feb 2016 #141

Those are nothing more than Capehart's own snarls updated for accuracy. mhatrw Feb 2016 #149

Shouldn't you be out SAYING SOMETHING NICE Hortensis Feb 2016 #151

Why would I want to do that when I can instead expose Clinton's whole ratfucking operation? mhatrw Feb 2016 #157

Well, then, expose away. Hortensis Feb 2016 #158

Shouldn't you be out SAYING SOMETHING NICE Hortensis Feb 2016 #153

No, they aren't. The photographer is talking about the standing photo. kristopher Feb 2016 #27

followed the link on another OP demosocialist Feb 2016 #87

FIFY mhatrw Feb 2016 #136

The Marco Rubio debate technique applied to posting. oasis Feb 2016 #161

I find this whole episode of ratfuckery extremely interesting. mhatrw Feb 2016 #163

Funny, but the photographer who took that photo, says it IS Bernie, so why don't you stop. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #3

Read the OP again. Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #5

It isn't Bruce R, check out the sweater in each photo, both are Bernie according to the photographer peacebird Feb 2016 #12

He does NOT say that is Bernie in the photograph that Capehart is referencing - the photo that Empowerer Feb 2016 #7

Yes, he actually does. I'm sorry you refuse to believe the facts staring at you. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #13

Here are the photographers two blog posts on the topic kristopher Feb 2016 #60

FIFY mhatrw Feb 2016 #138

Which photo are you talking about Andy823 Feb 2016 #8

Andrea Mitchell just did it again. kracer20 Feb 2016 #82

Yes, especially the two accusations getting so much attention together .... convenient, right? nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #167

Actually the award winning photog who took those photos says both are Bernie Sanders peacebird Feb 2016 #6

^^^ THAT RIGHT FUCKING THERE^^^ onecaliberal Feb 2016 #14

You mean that Camp Weathervain are acting R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #24

Funny, I feel the sudden need to donate to Bernie Sanders again! peacebird Feb 2016 #30

I know right. They can't help themselves. It's all they've got. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #31

When I hear this Hillfolk gutter talk I'm reminded of this... R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #36

And what a sad little half-assed lie to even float in the first place. DirkGently Feb 2016 #94

^^ This. I remember the first time this came up on DU, and it seemed a silly thing to winter is coming Feb 2016 #116

Then suddenly it's in the Washington Post and on MSNBC. DirkGently Feb 2016 #124

Hold it, the photog said he took those photos? nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #115

Here's the link peacebird Feb 2016 #117

Yeah I saw the link nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #119

The photographer is Danny Lyons & he was th SNCC photographer womanofthehills Feb 2016 #128

I was pointing to somehing else nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #130

Please stop lying. jeff47 Feb 2016 #9

Look exactly the same whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #10

I think this is silly but in the pic with bernie sitting down boston bean Feb 2016 #21

Yes he does SheenaR Feb 2016 #26

You can see the sleeves but not the collar whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #28

That is not one of the pictures in the OP. boston bean Feb 2016 #85

So, do you stipulate whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #97

How about this. I dont really care. Sorry for stepping into this. boston bean Feb 2016 #99

I'm sure you don't whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #100

Either way is fine with me. I find it silly either way. boston bean Feb 2016 #102

The University of Chicago says its Rappaport. boston bean Feb 2016 #11

The University of Chicago, Rappaport's friends AND Rapport's wife says it's Rappaport Empowerer Feb 2016 #17

Links to the university saying it Rappaport. And sorry but lyon cali Feb 2016 #58

I think it's more likely the people who knew them personally are right. kcr Feb 2016 #88

The University of Chicago said it because Rappaport's friends, Rapport's wife & the life partner of mhatrw Feb 2016 #140

Of course - and you know this, how? Empowerer Feb 2016 #142

I know this because I can smell a ratfucker. mhatrw Feb 2016 #147

No. Hillary supporters made them change the tagline. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #22

Actually Capehart says that UC "says it is Rappaport" kristopher Feb 2016 #66

Whooooossssshhhh Fawke Em Feb 2016 #15

Apparently, slander and libel have been redefined as part of the "revolution". OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #16

Both photos are Sanders says Danny Lyons who took them. You're wrong Arazi Feb 2016 #19

I stand corrected about the photographer's claim about the photo Empowerer Feb 2016 #32

Actually, Carehart did libel the photographer. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #37

Capehart doesn't even mention the photographer - that's not libel or slander Empowerer Feb 2016 #47

I understand Rappaports friends and family would want the pics to be of him Arazi Feb 2016 #46

Rappaport was there and there are plenty of photos of him there - so there's no need for the Empowerer Feb 2016 #49

It's Sanders who led the sit-in. The kind of person whose a leader Arazi Feb 2016 #57

That is what I was thinking Kalidurga Feb 2016 #154

I think Bernie is in the bottom right corner of the picture with Rappaport speaking Lucinda Feb 2016 #129

FIFY and Capehart mhatrw Feb 2016 #144

How many times are you going to cut and paste this to me Empowerer Feb 2016 #146

Danny Lyon says they are all of Sanders on his website. femmedem Feb 2016 #20

Wrong. The photo ths is the caption to is of Sanders standing speaking to the sit in students Tom Rinaldo Feb 2016 #23

And here is the actual photographer disputing Time and referencing the photo is question Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #25

What are you talking about? The picture that Capehart is lying about IS Bernie & WAS taken by Danny jillan Feb 2016 #29

Here since you didn't bother to read the truth, let me help you...THIS is the pic in question. jillan Feb 2016 #34

The photo that Capehart questioned, is the one where Bernie is standing up and talking CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #33

Fucking huge fail. Lyon specifically points to the photo cali Feb 2016 #35

BOTH photos are Sanders. Ino Feb 2016 #38

Same clothes, same glasses, same haircut.... Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #39

The photographer has little credibility Tom Rinaldo Feb 2016 #40

"We don't even know if John Lewis remembers him." ?? Are you being sarcastic? Jarqui Feb 2016 #69

Yes. n/t Tom Rinaldo Feb 2016 #75

he is being sarcastic. Alluding to all the stupid bullshit circulating yesterday whenJohn Lewis said kath Feb 2016 #77

Why is Capehart trying to prove this isn't Bernie Sanders? monicaangela Feb 2016 #41

It's Rovian Swiftboating - attack your opponent's strength kristopher Feb 2016 #127

I continue to hear that Hillary Clinton monicaangela Feb 2016 #165

It's called ratfucking. He is the life partner of a Clinton campaign staffer. mhatrw Feb 2016 #143

Thank you. (nt) NurseJackie Feb 2016 #42

It's a lie. I posted Lyon's words upthread. He directly claims the photo cali Feb 2016 #52

lol please. they don't care about truth. they support Hillary Clinton. nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #55

Revolting. cali Feb 2016 #59

give up, Empowerer. you just aren't good at this. m-lekktor Feb 2016 #43

You have been corrected with proof several times in this thread. You are pushing cali Feb 2016 #44

Take note of whose recced this - true "believers" Arazi Feb 2016 #53

Shameful. cali Feb 2016 #74

No. Capehart is carrying filthy water here. DirkGently Feb 2016 #48

Capehart is waffling now. grasswire Feb 2016 #65

Capehart made me want to vomit last night. DirkGently Feb 2016 #91

I agree with the OP Gothmog Feb 2016 #50

Tad Devine couldn't answer when confronted with a yes or no question BeatleBoot Feb 2016 #54

So the fuck what? cali Feb 2016 #63

Well, you would think that your Campaign Manager... BeatleBoot Feb 2016 #164

Other examples too - more when I have links ucrdem Feb 2016 #64

Tad Devine wasn't there, the photographer however was. Tom Rinaldo Feb 2016 #70

Agree I saw Devine interview last night and he WAS being cautious KoKo Feb 2016 #78

How does that change the photographer's statements? TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #73

So the guy with the actual negatives is "wrong" and a blind WaPo columnist is right whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #56

Agree with OP. ucrdem Feb 2016 #61

Look at the tassels on the shoes yodermon Feb 2016 #62

You can see the collar in these shots too whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #68

The forward sweep of the hair also suggests it's Bernie. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #71

Capehart sure as fuck is slandering him. cali Feb 2016 #67

Bernie should probably consider legal action if the paper doesn't print a retraction LittleBlue Feb 2016 #72

No, it is not libel Empowerer Feb 2016 #79

Isn't malice proven when the paper refuses to correct a damaging and conclusively LittleBlue Feb 2016 #83

No - the fact that there is a difference of opinion, that Capehart had a source for his statement Empowerer Feb 2016 #96

Uh, no. Whether he was there isn't a matter of opinion LittleBlue Feb 2016 #103

But Capehart didn't claim he wasn't there. In fact, he says he WAS there Empowerer Feb 2016 #104

Weak freaking tea there Empowerer. Why not just admit your OP is bull. Especially now that it has peacebird Feb 2016 #120

I'm not a lawyer, but whatever it is it stinks whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #84

Capehart was attempting to damage Bernie's reputation for honesty and integrity. femmedem Feb 2016 #112

FIFY and Capehart mhatrw Feb 2016 #145

I think that's an excellent idea! NurseJackie Feb 2016 #93

No because Bernie Sanders is making his living in the public eye nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #139

But you are trying hard to. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #76

If this is the kind of thing that Sanders' attackers are pushing, it says a lot. drm604 Feb 2016 #80

Sounds good HassleCat Feb 2016 #81

Has Bernie said this is him? Andy823 Feb 2016 #86

It is obviously him. Yes, he's said it is. And are you accusing cali Feb 2016 #90

Is this another fake Bernie Sanders leader of the civil rights movement picture??? workinclasszero Feb 2016 #92

Nope. just Hillarians swift boating as has been conclusively proved cali Feb 2016 #95

Hi there. frylock Feb 2016 #101

Translation: this is no longer helping the Hillary campaign, and has the potential for blowback. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #106

Except that those "four alumni" were ratfuckers and the photographer says it's a photo of Sanders. mhatrw Feb 2016 #131

Also, Bernie Sanders Took Some Free Ketchup Packets on Wall Street Once DrFunkenstein Feb 2016 #152

well thanks to the guy that took the picture(s) we have lots of others now too azurnoir Feb 2016 #159