2016 Postmortem

alcibiades_mystery

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31. So, you don't know the mechanisms?

Reply to onecaliberal (Reply #30)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:40 AM

Feb 2016

OK. I'll go read the proposal.

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Does Sanders' college plan really rely on governors to release funds? [View all] alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 OP

Probably true FBaggins Feb 2016 #1

So this is another thing we have to suppose that a groundswell of support alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #6

We need to work to get more liberals in Congress no matter who our next President is. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #50

I'm not talking about the Congressional approval, which is challenging enough alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #51

Yes, we must work to get more liberal governors as well. Bernie has always said he is not the liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #55

It sounds increasingly like "We'll get all the policies we want if we control the whole political alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #56

I think you are missing something. The middle class have been disappearing for over liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #57

I don't think I'm missing any of that alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #58

Whatever. I am so tired of this being asked of Bernie and not asked of Hillary. She will have just liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #59

I will fight for all those things as well alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #60

Yep, and governorships if healthcare and education are to improve. It is a 12-16 year commitment. bettyellen Feb 2016 #54

One of the reasons I'm not a fan of Sanders' education plan mythology Feb 2016 #2

Well, if it does, it will never be approved by a single Republican Governor. nt ladjf Feb 2016 #3

State colleges are run by states. MineralMan Feb 2016 #4

The federal government can mandate a lot from state and even private colleges and universities alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #7

That's true, but the President can't do any of that. MineralMan Feb 2016 #8

Not without a groundswell behind him AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #11

Not without major Democratic majorities in Congress. MineralMan Feb 2016 #14

Third Way® thinking has destroyed the Congress AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #17

Well, you'd need two groundswells: the one that forces Congressional Republicans alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #20

You need a groundswell of pressure on congress AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #21

Certainly that, but also the governors now alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #24

Where has this "groundswell" been hiding? Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2016 #25

Well, obviously...that's a different matter alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #19

Pressure through federal funding AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #22

Through what specific means would you apply this pressure? alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #27

There are many ways to pressure via funding AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #35

Oh, the "many ways" alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #36

I am not Sanders education planner AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #37

Do you understand the free college plan or not? alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #39

Do you understand it? Apparently not. Can't! Can't! AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #40

I don't know if I support it alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #41

Then why the Can't! Can't! Can't! Can't! Can't! Can't! Can't! Can't!??? AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #42

I'm asking after the policy alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #44

What is desirable, such as tuition-free college, MineralMan Feb 2016 #23

I work in a state college AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #10

See my #12 below. FBaggins Feb 2016 #13

All of that funding must have congressional approval. MineralMan Feb 2016 #15

Can't! Can't! Can't! Can't! AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #18

I think we have to assume that the plan would be passed in Congress FBaggins Feb 2016 #12

From the get-go his plan to make the states DURHAM D Feb 2016 #5

So you are against Obamacare AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #43

Hillary's policy seems to be "We can't do anything good" AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #9

He didn't rebut it. Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #16

It's paid for with tax on Wall Street transactions. No not sure why anyone thinks onecaliberal Feb 2016 #26

Is it true that governors would have to approve disbursement to their state institutions? alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #28

Go read the plan. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #30

So, you don't know the mechanisms? alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #31

I'm not your personal researcher. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #45

Ah alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #49

Yes oberliner Feb 2016 #29

The federal government will incentivize Bruce Rauner, and Scott Walker, and Sam Brownbeck alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #32

Walker turned down Medicaid expansion and high speed rail money, HRC was right. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #38

Sanders filed a bill "College for All Act" in May 2015, after he announced. I would find it seaglass Feb 2016 #33

Jay-zuz...We can't even get Rauner to disburse funds already promised alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #34

Ha, I have 2 responses to that. seaglass Feb 2016 #47

True on 2 alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #48

it would have to be a federally-controlled reimbursement, no? otherwise, how deal with fre amborin Feb 2016 #46

Our experience with ACA should be instructive HassleCat Feb 2016 #52

Good analysis, and likely true alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #53