2016 Postmortem

Bonobo

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57. Yes, but that "goal" is health insurance for all that does not (directly) advance the notion

Reply to zipplewrath (Reply #56)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 01:57 AM

Feb 2016

that health CARE is a right.

And that is a very important distinction.

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The concept of health care as a right cannot be implemented "incrementally". [View all] Bonobo Feb 2016 OP

Some folks want to choose how they get financial access to system. Hoyt Feb 2016 #1

The policies that actually provide healthcare to people can, though. DanTex Feb 2016 #2

Let's suppose (though I think it is nonsense) that ONLY Hillary could increase the number Bonobo Feb 2016 #3

Bernie might too, as long as he drops the single payer fantasy. DanTex Feb 2016 #7

Your last line ends in a non-sequitur Lordquinton Feb 2016 #52

Your analogy is so clear - thanks left lowrider Feb 2016 #58

Thank you for saying so. nt Bonobo Feb 2016 #59

I thought your argument was only She would beat back a Republican Victory Rilgin Feb 2016 #5

That's true also. And that is the most important thing. DanTex Feb 2016 #8

Bernie is more likely to win against eh Republicans Lordquinton Feb 2016 #53

Please explain how she gets a bill to expand the ACA through Congress. jeff47 Feb 2016 #6

He can't...neither can she though... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #9

She doesn't. It'll have to be executive actions, I don't see much coming out of congress. DanTex Feb 2016 #10

I don't get it. Old Crow Feb 2016 #11

GE polls this far out are meaningless. Everyone knows this. DanTex Feb 2016 #13

That's an interesting response. Old Crow Feb 2016 #17

It's a factual response. Astrological charts are data also. Also meaningless. DanTex Feb 2016 #18

Not a factual response. Old Crow Feb 2016 #20

Astrological charts do contain data. It's just that it's useless, as are GE polls this far out. DanTex Feb 2016 #21

I disagree strongly. Old Crow Feb 2016 #23

Of course you do. That's what usually happens when I present a factual case to Bernie fans. DanTex Feb 2016 #27

Your condescension and snide tone don't help your argument. Old Crow Feb 2016 #32

You should read past the first paragraph of the Vox article. DanTex Feb 2016 #34

You can't drop the condescension, can you? Old Crow Feb 2016 #36

Always a good time! DanTex Feb 2016 #37

The polls are meaningless, but your psychic revelations aren't? HERVEPA Feb 2016 #43

You forgot to be specific. jeff47 Feb 2016 #22

It'll be great watching Sanders amend bills from the White House. Umm, wait. DanTex Feb 2016 #24

You forgot to list what executive actions Clinton can take jeff47 Feb 2016 #28

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Still got no list? But you claimed she had a plan, Dan. jeff47 Feb 2016 #33

You think I'm just going to forget that you fabricate quotes out of thin air in order to support DanTex Feb 2016 #35

C'mon Dan. It would be wrong to promise something she could never get, right? jeff47 Feb 2016 #41

Man, you sure don't want to talk about fabricated quotes! DanTex Feb 2016 #42

Change your words? Your words are right there. jeff47 Feb 2016 #46

He's dead, Jim. nt Bonobo Feb 2016 #50

He's pining for the fjords. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #51

An ex-parrot. nt Bonobo Feb 2016 #54

Can't respond. He's on a time out. n/t Contrary1 Feb 2016 #60

Well, he couldn't respond before the time out either. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #64

tell us more about the quotes, Jeff. bettyellen Feb 2016 #66

What quotes? jeff47 Feb 2016 #67

the fabricated quotes! got a link, so I can see how untrue the accusation was? bettyellen Feb 2016 #68

A link to I have no idea what he's talking about? jeff47 Feb 2016 #69

especially when the "increments" are AWAY FROM the actual goal Doctor_J Feb 2016 #4

KnR SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #12

another K&R Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #14

Then, I guess . ... ThreeWayFanny Feb 2016 #15

K&R CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #16

Even though I recall the passing of Medicare, SheilaT Feb 2016 #19

When Social Security was first enacted, very few women or minorities were covered. Much better now. Hoyt Feb 2016 #25

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #26

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #29

Kicked and Recced eom Arazi Feb 2016 #30

That's because "concepts" aren't implemented. Plans are implemented. pnwmom Feb 2016 #38

K&R. Thanks, Bonobo. senz Feb 2016 #39

Right on. You can definitely say that again. highprincipleswork Feb 2016 #40

Remember the incremental approach for African-American rights? DrBulldog Feb 2016 #44

Several years ago, a Scandinavian country was changing from the right lane to the right lane -- Akamai Feb 2016 #45

But you have to admit, that's not much of a change. cui bono Feb 2016 #48

FYI (#5) HERVEPA Feb 2016 #47

If you don't live in that world, it doesn't seem such an obvious point Babel_17 Feb 2016 #49

Yes, I'm afraid that's true. Bonobo Feb 2016 #55

Kinda depends. zipplewrath Feb 2016 #56

Yes, but that "goal" is health insurance for all that does not (directly) advance the notion Bonobo Feb 2016 #57

+1 n/t area51 Feb 2016 #61

K & R LWolf Feb 2016 #62

While rights are absolute, the implementation of MineralMan Feb 2016 #63

Bernie's plan will put most of Utopian Leftist Feb 2016 #65