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2016 Postmortem

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ericson00

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Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:35 PM Feb 2016

Bernie Sanders Looks to J-Street on Foreign Policy [View all]

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One of the big reasons I'm against Bernie Sanders is that his foreign policy ideas come from J-Street, a group that claims it is somehow "pro-Israel" despite the obvious fact that its not.

We've talked ... to the people on J Street to get a broad perspective of the Middle East.
J Street is a liberal Jewish-American lobbying group that has met criticism from Republicans and some Democrats for being too critical of Israeli policies.


I'm not a fan of all of Israel's policies, but J-Street is just too far out of the mainstream of both American-Jews and American gentiles:

J Street -- the lobby group that claims to be "pro-Israel" and "pro-peace" -- is anything but "open" to centrist views that are critical of its policies. It has invited several prominent anti-Israel speakers to address its national conference, including Saeb Erekat, one of the Palestinian Authority's chief negotiators, who has repeatedly accused Israel of war crimes, and committing massacres in the West Bank

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To those on the hard left, it offers anti-Israel and pro-BDS speakers, support for the mendacious Goldstone Report, and opposition to keeping the military option on the table as a last resort in preventing Iran from developing nuclear weapons.

To the soft left, it focuses on its opposition to Israeli settlements and its support for a two-state solution -- positions with which I and many supporters of Israel agree. But it hides its controversial, hard left positions that endanger Israel's security -- positions with which most supporters of Israel disagree. It also hides the financial support it has received from anti-Zionists such as George Soros, as well as the anti-Zionist statements made by some of its founders and activists.


The mainstream of America supports Israel in a manner J-Street obvious does not, and J-Street in reality is not "pro-Israel." Any candidate who gets his ideas from them is disqualified from being President.
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J-Street ! stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #1
I don't really care about Zionism. nt thereismore Feb 2016 #2
Jeeze, that is pathetic mikehiggins Feb 2016 #3
Heard that too on MTP today FloridaBlues Feb 2016 #5
LOL. What trash. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #4
J-Street is a great group. I have disagreements with Bernie, but this is definitely not one of them. DanTex Feb 2016 #6
What complete nonsense. J Street is AIPAC light. Bernie is not going to do anything Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #7
J-Street is substantially better than AIPAC. DanTex Feb 2016 #8
No they are not, they support land swaps that will leave the Palestinians Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #10
Bernie is great with respect to Israel oberliner Feb 2016 #11
Bernie will not do anything radical regarding Israel. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #13
Yes, he will oberliner Feb 2016 #14
That our relationship with Israel is such that you think that would be Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #15
The J Street approach is radically different from AIPAC oberliner Feb 2016 #17
Bernie is not a hawk, so I don't expect Bibi to appreciate him, at all. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #18
Have you considered supporting Jill Stein? oberliner Feb 2016 #20
I don't have a radical approach to Israel, that would be AIPAC. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #23
it is good Bernie sides with J STREET which agreed with Obama karynnj Feb 2016 #38
Interesting concept HassleCat Feb 2016 #9
Really? KoKo Feb 2016 #12
With all due respect, J Street is BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #16
I would point out two things: ericson00 Feb 2016 #19
Did you just write that, technically Jewish? Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #21
American Jews' attitudes don't go with J-Street ericson00 Feb 2016 #25
Your OP is suggesting Bernie is not good for Israel, that is false and anyone Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #28
it won't hurt him for the nomination (for now), but in the general election ericson00 Feb 2016 #32
I don't know where you get these ideas from, but that is absurd. The GOP Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #33
why not? Eric Cantor or Norm Coleman ericson00 Feb 2016 #36
For one, the political process does not work that way, they are having their primary now. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #41
the majority of American Jews agree more with JSTREET karynnj Feb 2016 #39
AIPAC shows no balance at all. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #31
My husband is Jewish and he and his mother both believe AIPAC are zealots. eom Fawke Em Feb 2016 #22
given American Jews' actual positions, ericson00 Feb 2016 #24
Excuse me????? This American-Jew & all of the American-Jews that I associate with all think jillan Feb 2016 #27
Why defend AIPAC? Ken Burch Feb 2016 #29
You ate talking out of your.... cali Feb 2016 #43
That is offensive as fuck. cali Feb 2016 #42
You're mad because J-Street isn't Likudnik. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #26
Are you trying to say Bernie is not Jewish enough? jillan Feb 2016 #30
makes me support Bernie more - J STREET has had Obama's back karynnj Feb 2016 #34
Didn't Clinton's PAC just get (IIRC) $6 million contribution from George Soros? ebayfool Feb 2016 #35
Hillary has Haim Saban, ericson00 Feb 2016 #37
Then why did he donate to her PAC? n/t ebayfool Feb 2016 #40
because he's with her on domestic policy ericson00 Feb 2016 #44
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