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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
56. For me, I just care about what happens to the country and the world.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:53 PM
Feb 2016

Whether Hillary is honest or not makes no difference as long as good things happen. I don't think she's dishonest per se, nor is she a saint, but drilling down into stuff like this to see just how pure or impure she is strikes me as irrelevant. Basically, as I see it, if the GOP wins, lots of bad stuff will happen, and if a Dem wins, good things will happen at about the rate they did with Obama.

To say she's "owned by Wall Street" to me is silly. Obviously she knows a lot of people there, and has relationships there. But she's Hillary effing Clinton, she knows everyone and has relationships everywhere. And, at the end of the day, despite changing her mind about some stuff and making some unfortunate votes, she's a progressive.

Is Bernie more pure? Of course. If elected, would that translate into better outcomes? I doubt it, and not by much. It's all about the fight with the GOP.

675K "That's what they offered". [View all] Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 OP
That's more money then a lot of people make in 10 years. If (with my 16 inch scope) I had .. BlueJazz Feb 2016 #1
At $10/hr it would take about 33 years full time work. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #3
When you get voted most admired woman in the world for 15 or so years in a row, DanTex Feb 2016 #7
you might want to adjust Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #2
Yeahup..... daleanime Feb 2016 #4
And that's still less than 1% of their combined worth Hydra Feb 2016 #6
Actually, Goldman and many other organizations have events with paid DanTex Feb 2016 #5
Then she should ejbr Feb 2016 #9
Maybe. I've yet to come across anyone who doesn't already hate Hillary who cares about this stuff DanTex Feb 2016 #13
Talk is cheap ejbr Feb 2016 #15
You left out the American Camping Association. Maybe she's owned by "big camping!" DanTex Feb 2016 #16
Your trust ejbr Feb 2016 #17
Unless you distrust anyone who has ever given a paid speech, then it seems pretty clear DanTex Feb 2016 #19
They are not about ejbr Feb 2016 #20
I see. So people who are going to run for office at some time in the future can't give DanTex Feb 2016 #21
They shouldn't balk ejbr Feb 2016 #23
You've already heard what you want to hear. She releases the transcripts, they are innocuous, DanTex Feb 2016 #24
Obama being born in Kenya ejbr Feb 2016 #25
I do not hate her Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #30
Call it what you want. But no evidence is going to change your mind about her supposedly DanTex Feb 2016 #31
she knew she was going to run since 08 Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #27
and colleges Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #26
Yes, speaking to colleges is evil. Those institutes for higher learning, how dare they give DanTex Feb 2016 #28
how dare they be Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #33
Well, when you send your kids to college, you can make sure that the college you send DanTex Feb 2016 #35
yep screw the huge debt Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #37
"Everybody's doing it" Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #51
There is zero evidence of any trade of influence for access. DanTex Feb 2016 #52
Stand back a ways from your candidate & primary Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #53
The system as a whole, I agree with you. Where I differ is that I see Hillary as part of the DanTex Feb 2016 #54
Yes. Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #55
For me, I just care about what happens to the country and the world. DanTex Feb 2016 #56
I'm very proud of Hillary and her success. OhZone Feb 2016 #8
I think you ejbr Feb 2016 #11
I don't know what kind of cave people are living in where they're not aware that DanTex Feb 2016 #14
Yeah. Exactly. Some Bernie fans are bad as the GOP pretending everything is a scandal. nt OhZone Feb 2016 #36
nice name calling insults Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #39
Sorry. Edited. And I'm not nice when people act awful. OhZone Feb 2016 #42
thanks so much Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #45
Welcome. OhZone Feb 2016 #47
I like Jimmy Carter Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #34
That's not how it works anyway. Hillary has an agency negotiate her speaking fees. Avalux Feb 2016 #10
Pretty sure this qualifies for the No Shit Sherlock issue of the day/month/Primary??? n/t libdem4life Feb 2016 #12
Pass rock Feb 2016 #18
Investors usually expect a return on their investments. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #22
Hillary believes if she "Repeats the Lie enough people will believe it" FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #29
If someone was willing to pay me $675000 to speak to them I sure as hell doc03 Feb 2016 #32
Oh I would too, but I think perhaps that isn't going to happen to you or me. Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #44
Well I wasn't a US Senator representing New York where Wall Street happens to be for 8 years and doc03 Feb 2016 #57
This makes me sick--as I try and figure out what bills I can juggle this month. Paper Roses Feb 2016 #38
yes they just picked that amount Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #40
.+10 840high Feb 2016 #58
There was definite quid pro quo with Sanders and the NRA Persondem Feb 2016 #41
Oh really? Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #43
might want to check your facts Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #46
Which explains his D- rating from the NRA. hifiguy Feb 2016 #49
When an organization like Goldman pays that kind of money hifiguy Feb 2016 #48
The Fourth Possibility speaktruthtopower Feb 2016 #50
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