2016 Postmortem

WillyT

(72,631 posts) Fri Feb 5, 2016, 12:59 PM Feb 2016

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Let THIS Headline Sink In... 'Poll: Hillary Clinton And Bernie Sanders Are Tied Nationally - CBSNews [View all]

Poll: Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are tied nationally
Rebecca Shabad - CBS News
February 5, 2016, 10:40 AM

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are now virtually tied nationally, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Friday.

The poll, which was conducted in the two days after Monday's Iowa caucuses, found that 44 percent of Democratic voters support Clinton and 42 percent said they back Vermont's independent senator. Eleven percent said they are undecided.

In the last poll conducted in late December, Clinton was leading against Sanders 61 percent to 30 percent.

Link: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-hillary-clinton-and-bernie-sanders-are-tied-nationally/

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Let THIS Headline Sink In... 'Poll: Hillary Clinton And Bernie Sanders Are Tied Nationally - CBSNews [View all] WillyT Feb 2016 OP

While still in bed this morning, turned on the tv and was greeted by this headline. jillan Feb 2016 #1

Clinton still ahead by 2 points HassleCat Feb 2016 #2

Do you not grasp the concepts of margin-of-error and "statistical tie"? kath Feb 2016 #7

Yes, I do HassleCat Feb 2016 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author bvf Feb 2016 #123

Friends don't let friends use the phrase "statistical tie"... PoliticAverse Feb 2016 #52

By the same token, Bernie outperforms Hillary against Trump, Rubio & Cruz by 5 points. reformist2 Feb 2016 #11

Withn the margin of error. CentralMass Feb 2016 #17

Clinton down by double digiits since Bernie was seen on the NATIONAL STAGE. Wait 'till after sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #33

^ This. AzDar Feb 2016 #39

Indeed!!! And they're responding Plucketeer Feb 2016 #62

I wondered about that also. but yes, OWS was the first sign that the citizenry were aware sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #63

100% agree Plucketeer Feb 2016 #71

You always seem to nail it. I don't even have to write anything, I just need to follow you rhett o rick Feb 2016 #109

I couldn't agree more with you and Sabrina more… tex-wyo-dem Feb 2016 #121

+1000! Nt tex-wyo-dem Feb 2016 #120

You are right about Bernie's motivation and impact, Sabrina senz Feb 2016 #128

"The difference between a politician and a public servant." HUGE difference. senz Feb 2016 #125

That has always been the way I have seen Bernie. pangaia Feb 2016 #126

Yes, he chose public service as the best available means to live out his ideals. senz Feb 2016 #130

Kenny G is a schlock soprano sax player. pangaia Feb 2016 #131

lol, great Bernista minds think alike. senz Feb 2016 #133

Man, your story is almost a dupe of Dorkzilla, :>)) pangaia Feb 2016 #150

Well that's an honor. :) senz Feb 2016 #165

I found it.. shots of the percussionists... pangaia Feb 2016 #170

Thank you so much for the video. I was referring to live performances senz Feb 2016 #171

GREAT questions.. pangaia Feb 2016 #172

A couple of our classical musicians senz Feb 2016 #173

I am also an admirer of jazz-especially smooth jazz Duckfan Feb 2016 #137

I heard all thjose guys in the city when I was "coming of age." pangaia Feb 2016 #149

lol, he had his back turned the time I saw him, too, and I felt hurt by it senz Feb 2016 #166

That's why they ignored him. in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #75

The more who know him, the more support him. Duval Feb 2016 #94

Reducing a 30 point gap to 2, in 6 weeks. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #40

Bernie has obviously plateaued Mnpaul Feb 2016 #122

You can tell there's an earthquake happening. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #127

Read about margin of error! Nt Logical Feb 2016 #155

See my response above HassleCat Feb 2016 #163

Mm. I predict that Larry Wilmore will be doing another "interview with Clinton staffer" winter is coming Feb 2016 #3

Those skits are priceless! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #10

That was one of the funniest skits I've ever seen! n/t JimDandy Feb 2016 #91

It was! Here's the video in case some haven't seen it yet: beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #92

Good idea. More people need to see this. It is so spot on! JimDandy Feb 2016 #98

"if that's your position then I will talk only to white people..." cui bono Feb 2016 #100

I don't buy it. cali Feb 2016 #4

I can't wait for Super Tuesday to be over hack89 Feb 2016 #5

You can start getting concerned. Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #16

So Bernie has pulled even in every Super Tuesday state? hack89 Feb 2016 #18

Said no one but you . . . Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #22

But you implied the state polls are changing. hack89 Feb 2016 #26

Not all polls are external polls. Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #29

Did you see the latest Boston Globe poll on New Hampshire? hack89 Feb 2016 #30

Link please nt dorkzilla Feb 2016 #49

Sure hack89 Feb 2016 #55

Yeah I got it off the website dorkzilla Feb 2016 #58

You didn't read the entire thread did you? A Simple Game Feb 2016 #117

A link for a STRAWMAN? That's a new one. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #110

How can the race be even nationally hack89 Feb 2016 #111

STRAWMAN argument means that you put forth a defence for an argument that rhett o rick Feb 2016 #112

So you agree he is still behind in the Super Tuesday states? hack89 Feb 2016 #113

Those 2 things will likely happen at different times. n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2016 #53

I am sure it will be ugly all the way to the convention hack89 Feb 2016 #57

To be tied nationally Bernie has to be leading in some states. totodeinhere Feb 2016 #134

I am with Nate Silver on this hack89 Feb 2016 #145

I respect Nate but I disagree to a point. National polls if nothing else have a psychological effect totodeinhere Feb 2016 #159

But we do not hold a national primary hack89 Feb 2016 #161

National polls do not reflect a general election demographic. totodeinhere Feb 2016 #162

We will see hack89 Feb 2016 #164

Primaries are all about expectations. If Bernie loses South Carolina but comes closer than totodeinhere Feb 2016 #168

"Rationality" meaning we all love hillary? Nt Logical Feb 2016 #156

No. The end of this Lord of the Flies phase we are going through hack89 Feb 2016 #160

The unstoppable train is having trouble with it's overloaded baggage car. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #6

Love this! kath Feb 2016 #9

The wheels are starting to come off the train. PonyUp Feb 2016 #15

Looks to me like the train has left the station (sort of). n/t dgibby Feb 2016 #103

while the bridge is being washed out because ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2016 #20

lulz corkhead Feb 2016 #38

Buster Keaton: "The Secretary" Mike__M Feb 2016 #61

Good analogy. I see what you did there... eom Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #90

hehe... cui bono Feb 2016 #102

A little late but neverforget Feb 2016 #115

They lost Hillary's crown on the way to the coronation! Odin2005 Feb 2016 #138

Camp Weathervane will claim it's an outlier. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #8

Or we can point to the latest NH polls that show Hillary surging hack89 Feb 2016 #31

Yes, she's closing the gap. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #35

The primaries start and end on Super Tuesday hack89 Feb 2016 #44

Hillary will do well in the Southeast primaries... HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #47

So will Bernie's hack89 Feb 2016 #54

Bernie raised $3m in 24 hrs following Iowa caucus. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #59

He has no organization hack89 Feb 2016 #60

No organization? HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #64

How many days did he spend in Iowa? hack89 Feb 2016 #65

No more than Clinton. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #67

Rallies =/= organizing hack89 Feb 2016 #70

Had enough to tie Hillary in Iowa. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #78

You need to start linking to some state polls hack89 Feb 2016 #80

You have in your last two posts pangaia Feb 2016 #83

That's nice. nt hack89 Feb 2016 #84

Hold On there toothless dragon Feb 2016 #68

Only in the sense that she is not going to run out of money hack89 Feb 2016 #72

They're already running low on money. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #76

She has more money on hand then Bernie does. nt hack89 Feb 2016 #79

And she's burning through it much quicker. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #81

She will have all that she needs hack89 Feb 2016 #82

Wall St already cut off Jeb's funding. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #85

Not in the New Hampshire poll hack89 Feb 2016 #87

Worked really well in 2008. Helen Borg Feb 2016 #143

Obama had a large and effective organization in place early hack89 Feb 2016 #146

Bernie has been setting up a large and effective organization in place as well. Helen Borg Feb 2016 #147

There is no evidence of it hack89 Feb 2016 #148

Bullshit. NH doesn't have to be a tie with Bernie having been SO far ahead, and he lives next door. RBInMaine Feb 2016 #118

where? Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #157

Kicking and bouncing for Bernie!!! PonyUp Feb 2016 #12

So, since I have all the Hillary cheerleaders on Ignore, Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #13

Nah, they're busy trumpeting the one where Clinton is only down by 15 in NH. jeff47 Feb 2016 #21

"Only down by 15 in NH." Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #23

'Tis just a scratch" n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #41

OvertimePolitics Robbins Feb 2016 #46

As in Iowa, Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #48

Don't for get Poland! catnhatnh Feb 2016 #97

k&r krawhitham Feb 2016 #14

It's a brand new day. dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #19

This is why you never let anyone else tell you what "reality" is AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #24

What worries me... Helen Borg Feb 2016 #25

Looks fine and dandy SheenaR Feb 2016 #27

Let this sink in - Boston Globe-Suffolk University New Hampshire Poll-Sanders 50% Clinton 41% hack89 Feb 2016 #28

OMG did anyone predict this would happen? FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #32

That's amazing ... Considering ... Trajan Feb 2016 #36

omg. Holy wtf I didn't see that coming. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #37

We'll see more donations and more big endorsements Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #158

If you listened to Hillary supporters... jham123 Feb 2016 #42

K&R the electorate can see through HRC's lies and ties to interests that harm the 99% amborin Feb 2016 #43

Of course now polls are meaningless Lordquinton Feb 2016 #45

Can you imagine the Shitstorm that's raging right now at Weathervain Central.....? Indepatriot Feb 2016 #50

As people hear his message they usually turn into a supporter! Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #51

K & R! TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #56

Is this Sanders' real honest-to-goodness ceiling? shawn703 Feb 2016 #66

I hear they're 'reality-based'.... HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #73

Wait... have we plateaued yet? kenfrequed Feb 2016 #69

Like sinking into UglyGreed Feb 2016 #74

Can you say outlier poll FloridaBlues Feb 2016 #77

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #86

Those polls never matched what was on the ground in my city. JimDandy Feb 2016 #88

K&R. No wonder Clinton was so angry last night. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #89

Obama lacked the passion to fight them. Utopian Leftist Feb 2016 #107

Nailed It billhicks76 Feb 2016 #116

It is said that after the 2008 election, strategery blunder Feb 2016 #140

And he will continue to pull ahead of her... SoapBox Feb 2016 #93

K&R! Brings a smile! nt Duval Feb 2016 #95

K&R n/t warrprayer Feb 2016 #96

That makes sense katmondoo Feb 2016 #99

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #101

What I love in that poll is that it also shows Sanders does better against the GOP. basselope Feb 2016 #104

Our day will come . . . Utopian Leftist Feb 2016 #105

I love it. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #106

Oh, The Misogyny! Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #108

Wow That Was Fast billhicks76 Feb 2016 #114

They do. hifiguy Feb 2016 #119

Remember when "certain individuals" were shoving polls down our throats daily? senz Feb 2016 #124

Bernie! Bernie! Bernie! avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #129

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #132

Here is the thing that the Clinton camp does not want to hear. Bernie's recent surge has much to do totodeinhere Feb 2016 #135

CBS reporting on the Quinnipiac poll. Beacool Feb 2016 #136

Reuters/Ipsos also reporting similar numbers. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #139

Chelsea got it right a couple days ago madokie Feb 2016 #141

That is how Chelsea lost Helen Borg Feb 2016 #142

Probably worse madokie Feb 2016 #144

Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Feb 2016 #151

Yep she's peaked Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #152

She is losing PATRICK Feb 2016 #153

Yes!!! Nt Logical Feb 2016 #154

This is such a happy thread I could hug it. senz Feb 2016 #167

Good to know. nt LWolf Feb 2016 #169