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2016 Postmortem

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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:04 PM Jan 2016

AARP: We did not authorize the Sanders campaign to use our logo in their campaign mailing [View all]

WOW! Another blatant misrepresentation.

Bernie's campaign tried to imply they were endorsed by AARP in a mailing.

AARP responds:

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Des Moines, January 26, 2106 — In response to the Sanders campaign mailing featuring AARP and the Association’s Take A Stand campaign, AARP does not endorse candidates, have a political action committee (PAC), or make contributions to political campaigns or candidates.

While we have encouraged the presidential candidates to lay out their plans to update Social Security, AARP did not authorize the Sanders campaign to mention AARP or use the AARP logo, and we did not participate in its production.

We have a proud 30-year history of non-partisan voter engagement, providing voters with information on where the candidates stand on issues important to our members and their families, so they can make their own decisions on Election Day.

AARP’s Take A Stand campaign is pressing all candidates to lay out their plan to make Social Security financially sound for future generations. Yet in the last two debates, candidates either dodged the issue or spoke in soundbites not specifics.

http://states.aarp.org/aarp-statement-in-response-to-sanders-mailing/

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Is that unethical? NurseJackie Jan 2016 #1
Using a private unsecure server to hold national security secrets certainly is. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #9
Deflection, this is not the first time they were caught doing this. Also, synergie Jan 2016 #12
Yes, although the Sanders campaign should apologize for it, post-haste. winter is coming Jan 2016 #16
Maybe I should spam the AARP facebook page for calling Sanders out on this still_one Jan 2016 #20
AARP didn't sound very angry to me passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #133
I am doubtful it exists. Even if it was, it was probably done fully within the bounds of law. Bubzer Jan 2016 #139
No, it exists, but check this out passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #140
Interesting. So, they don't endorse it's use, but neither do they object. Bubzer Jan 2016 #160
It wasn't a beginner mistake. Bernie's had a 40 year career in politics. n/t pnwmom Jan 2016 #41
National jugular politics...not so much. At worst, he doesn't have control of his quickly libdem4life Jan 2016 #65
If he wins the nomination he'll be tossed into the deep end of national politics. pnwmom Jan 2016 #79
Dearie, we have a Long Way to go...JFK said we could go to the moon and they laughed at him. libdem4life Jan 2016 #81
I would disagree with you on his deep-end swimming ability. Bubzer Jan 2016 #116
How can that be...it's a career-maker or breaker here. Pearls and Fainting Couches. LOL libdem4life Jan 2016 #126
The League of Conservation Voters say they own their logo pnwmom Jan 2016 #141
I will agree to disagree with you. Bubzer Jan 2016 #146
No pay wall here tammywammy Jan 2016 #148
Huh. Might just be my connection then. Bubzer Jan 2016 #152
Here's an excerpt: pnwmom Jan 2016 #150
I agree that if a request was sent to the Bernie camp to not use those logos, then use should stop. Bubzer Jan 2016 #159
The Bernie's campaign sent warnings to Wikipedia not to use their logo. pnwmom Jan 2016 #161
Fair use allows for usage of logos in circumstances where it's being used to identify a citation. Bubzer Jan 2016 #162
But the LCV logo was NOT Being used to identify a citation, so it wasn't fair use. pnwmom Jan 2016 #163
You must have missed my earlier post. Bubzer Jan 2016 #180
OMG, call a cop, or maybe the F.B.I. John Poet Jan 2016 #164
Bernie-so-pure is not above dirty politics, no matter what his fervent believers believe. n/t pnwmom Jan 2016 #166
Exactly. nt Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #174
What? But yet so inexperienced 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #179
Unauthorized access of voter data from a secured server certainly is. George II Jan 2016 #106
National security secrets have indeed been found. Bubzer Jan 2016 #145
"That has SINCE been classified." It wasn't classified at the time it was received. pnwmom Jan 2016 #165
So you're just going to ignore the second half of my post like it never happened? Bubzer Jan 2016 #183
The second half of your post is based on nothing but Rethug rumors. n/t pnwmom Jan 2016 #186
What part of that e-mail is a rumor? That e-mail is straight from the state department. Bubzer Jan 2016 #189
There is no indication that it is a classified document. Just that, whatever pnwmom Jan 2016 #191
There is virtually no case in which removing a header would be necessary to send a document... Bubzer Jan 2016 #194
If there was something to this, then why hasn't the Obama administration pnwmom Jan 2016 #195
Because there's no way Obama would be seen as objective. That should be more than obvious. Bubzer Jan 2016 #198
You're free to discount this as just GOP rumor of course. Bubzer Jan 2016 #192
Yeah, and people said that Vince Foster's death was pretty damning. pnwmom Jan 2016 #193
I'm not familiar with Vince Foster... but I know a false equivelence when I see one. Bubzer Jan 2016 #197
If you don't know what the Vince Foster "scandal" was, then you have no idea pnwmom Jan 2016 #201
Anyone familiar with the political arena knows what kinds of tactics get used. Bubzer Jan 2016 #208
Bernie Sanders lawyers to Wikipedia: Take down our logo Dovidoff Jan 2016 #21
Well ... that makes it difficult for them to claim "fair use" ... NurseJackie Jan 2016 #28
Overreact much? Criminal? Get a grip. But it hasn't been a good week, I'll agree on that. libdem4life Jan 2016 #66
Good point - I guess for some campaigns what's good for the goose is NOT good for the gander! George II Jan 2016 #107
Unethical at best Renew Deal Jan 2016 #76
Depends Lage Nom Ai Jan 2016 #83
Yes. George II Jan 2016 #105
AARP May Not "Directly" Endorse Candidates hOwever They Do Play A Sheister Game... CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #118
Here we go again. Who's in charge of this s**t-show? DanTex Jan 2016 #2
What drives me crazy is this is the candidate randys1 Jan 2016 #4
The only one who can stop them is him. MoonRiver Jan 2016 #7
Good question...He cant stop his random supporters who spend all day everyday randys1 Jan 2016 #10
He needs to do something. The situation is out of control. MoonRiver Jan 2016 #15
Yet, clearly he has no intention of doing so n/t Sheepshank Jan 2016 #50
And you know this with whose crystal ball? I just saw him at a press meeting...he's libdem4life Jan 2016 #67
No...Bernie doesn't learn. He already knows it all Sheepshank Jan 2016 #115
Oh, FFS, you're probably one of them who base their vote on what people on this board say. libdem4life Jan 2016 #124
I'm responding to Sanders lack of ethics in theses campaign issues...he shows no leadership Sheepshank Jan 2016 #143
Well, at least he didn't call you guys Commies...I mean, that's got to count for something. libdem4life Jan 2016 #144
Exactly. eom MoonRiver Jan 2016 #80
I want a president of the United States of America be aware of his/HER surroundings Iliyah Jan 2016 #184
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2016 #8
Then, what does this say about his leadership? lunamagica Jan 2016 #33
A good point, randy mcar Jan 2016 #59
"Who's in charge of this s**t-show?" you ask? HubertHeaver Jan 2016 #168
Obviously! It's her fault that Bernie is using logos without permission. DanTex Jan 2016 #169
No, keep it straight. You asked about the "s**t-show". HubertHeaver Jan 2016 #170
Oh I see. This is your way of ignoring the unethical behavior of the Bernie camp. DanTex Jan 2016 #172
Calm down, Dan. You'll blow a gasket. HubertHeaver Jan 2016 #175
Ooh! Ad hominem. Why do Bernie fans always resort to that? DanTex Jan 2016 #178
You asked about the "s**t-show". HubertHeaver Jan 2016 #181
Yeah, it's wrong. Kind of like using music for a political candidate not approved by the artist. libdem4life Jan 2016 #3
This is kind of worse than that, especially since it implies an endorsement synergie Jan 2016 #38
Well, the artists resent it (don't know who LCV is) and it does speak to millions of listeners. libdem4life Jan 2016 #40
Yes, but that's a personal thing, this is a campaign being dishonest about the synergie Jan 2016 #43
and a few million fans...but I sure wish he hadn't done that. My personal opinion, and I know libdem4life Jan 2016 #53
Yeah, the fans don't really pay that much attention to the artist in the ads, synergie Jan 2016 #63
AARP is the establishment KingFlorez Jan 2016 #5
I hope you simply forgot the sarcasm icon? synergie Jan 2016 #22
It is always someone else's fault. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #31
Nothing is ever Bernie's fault! mcar Jan 2016 #62
I was waiting for someone to try to use that tired line. nt stevenleser Jan 2016 #71
You are talking about tired lines???? HERVEPA Jan 2016 #155
You're going with the conspiracy defense? Renew Deal Jan 2016 #78
I should have added the sarcasm icon KingFlorez Jan 2016 #89
Guys, chill. KingFlorez is a Hillary supporter. Beacool Jan 2016 #99
Oh my...what to make of this. You're bashing the wrong poster? libdem4life Jan 2016 #128
Damn Iliyah Jan 2016 #6
Bernie is not having a good day. Alfresco Jan 2016 #11
I think its going to be a very BAD Weekend At Bernie's.... revmclaren Jan 2016 #158
Unauthorized use of AARP logo--AARP Statement in Response to Sanders Mailing riversedge Jan 2016 #13
Not a banner day for the Sanders campaign. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #14
Imagine the accusations had Hillary's camp made these "mistakes" synergie Jan 2016 #19
The sanders supporters here would be apoplectic. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #23
So, no change? :-) synergie Jan 2016 #29
Cue the violins...Bernie didn't dismiss it. libdem4life Jan 2016 #68
Put your glasses on, and read what I wrote, that's not what I said. synergie Jan 2016 #69
What a sweet and caring reply...put your glasses on...couldn't get past that one. libdem4life Jan 2016 #74
Sorry, even with my glasses on, he didn't dismiss it. He addressed it. libdem4life Jan 2016 #75
This place would be on fire. Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #110
So what do we have now...a gentle, rippling brook? Get real. libdem4life Jan 2016 #129
Oh please, this is a drop in the bucket. Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #132
A drop in whose bucket...inquiring minds want to know. Honest. libdem4life Jan 2016 #138
So they've done this at least twice so far, is anyone keeping track? synergie Jan 2016 #17
Wow. Getting pretty crazy. DanTex Jan 2016 #25
Not to mention impersonating Culinary Union members (nt) Recursion Jan 2016 #49
Damn Nanjeanne Jan 2016 #18
Odd that you wouldn't have received one. winter is coming Jan 2016 #24
Iowans apparently. synergie Jan 2016 #36
I wonder if CoffeeCat got one. n/t winter is coming Jan 2016 #37
You should ask her. synergie Jan 2016 #44
Do you live in Iowa? That seems to be who they're targeting. synergie Jan 2016 #35
It's not as though some rock band objected to ... NurseJackie Jan 2016 #26
Do you find these developments as disturbing and distressing as I do?/nt DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #54
The word I'd choose is ... NurseJackie Jan 2016 #56
I am very disappointed in what appears to be ethical lapses. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #60
What developments? Hissyspit Jan 2016 #203
The latest ones, sir or madame./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #204
The supposed ones? Hissyspit Jan 2016 #209
The ones that were cited, sir or madame./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #211
WTH? workinclasszero Jan 2016 #27
YEAHHHH>>>NO litlbilly Jan 2016 #87
Your post reads like wishful thinking to me...wow! sulphurdunn Jan 2016 #142
Use of a logo NastyRiffraff Jan 2016 #30
I couldn't be more disappointed to learn of this development./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #32
I'm so disappointed to learn of your disappointment. frylock Jan 2016 #39
I too am disappointed. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #48
I am bereft with disappointment as well. Bread and Circus Jan 2016 #85
Incredibly Disappointed scottie55 Jan 2016 #151
Disappointing to say the least... Bread and Circus Jan 2016 #182
Those underhanded, dishonest tactics reek of desperation lunamagica Jan 2016 #34
The AARP that doesn't want single payer b/c they make money from getting their members to buy Skwmom Jan 2016 #42
what does that have to do with the illegal use of their brand by Bernie? n/t Sheepshank Jan 2016 #51
The ethics of using somone's logo or a catch phrase may be questionable. Bubzer Jan 2016 #102
It is illegal. Whether AARP presses the issue is unlikely Sheepshank Jan 2016 #123
Context and usage matter. Bubzer Jan 2016 #134
Nailed It! KoKo Jan 2016 #52
That is another topic. nt SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #57
So if the AARP is so evil, why did Sanders use their logo on the campaign mailer? nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #64
Right? These juvenile attacks by Sanders supporters on everyone who doesn't grovel before Bernie stevenleser Jan 2016 #73
Right? These juvenile attacks by Hillary supporters on everyone who doesn't grovel before her HERVEPA Jan 2016 #157
They don't know if they're coming or going. Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #135
So AARP goes under the Bernie bus now? ROFLMAO!!!! nt stevenleser Jan 2016 #72
Why did Sanders put them on the mailers if he thought they were so bad? Renew Deal Jan 2016 #82
AARP does not endorse candidates. Beacool Jan 2016 #101
Well now we have a stand off. Hillary is a Liar and Sanders is a Logo Grabber Cheat. libdem4life Jan 2016 #45
It appears that Saint Bernie can do no wrong in the eyes of his followers Sheepshank Jan 2016 #46
Thanks for posting this. This is important for people to know. AARP does NOT endorse. n/t pnwmom Jan 2016 #47
LOGOGATE!!! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #55
LOL navarth Jan 2016 #136
Awesome! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #153
Bernghazi!1!! BeanMusical Jan 2016 #147
LOL! Isn't this BERNGHAZI 7.0? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #149
+1 So true. BeanMusical Jan 2016 #154
Drip, drip, drip mcar Jan 2016 #58
This is wrong. SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #61
It's got to be Weaver. I don't see SBS initiating this crap. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #70
Sanders Campaign has a serious problem with ethics. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #77
+1 MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #86
That is HILL-arious! SoapBox Jan 2016 #98
Raise the Cap" <-- NOT a sound-bite, but a specific action n/t 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #84
LOGOGATE! Bonobo Jan 2016 #88
LOL! polly7 Jan 2016 #91
It does sort of capture the national angst, does it not? nt Bonobo Jan 2016 #95
Bernies ethics are now in question! frylock Jan 2016 #93
Poor form, but I'm sure they'll get past this.. frylock Jan 2016 #90
Please read the following at this link Mbrow Jan 2016 #92
Where is there room for the addressee's name on this envelope? polly7 Jan 2016 #97
Thats the point Mbrow Jan 2016 #121
Well, then by all means, don't return it. Or are you just looking at a facsimile for your libdem4life Jan 2016 #137
Yes the link works...in multiple ways navarth Jan 2016 #207
AARP Lamonte Jan 2016 #94
Where is the evidence that Sanders or any officials working for his campaign sarge43 Jan 2016 #96
Ditto! SoapBox Jan 2016 #100
Who had the most to gain MissDeeds Jan 2016 #109
Okay. That's it. That's the fuckup by a staffer that means he has to drop out now. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #103
Well, if they access other candidates' voter data co-opting AARP's logo is small potatoes. George II Jan 2016 #104
I thought it was the Clinton campaign using other candidates' voters data? nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #125
... retrowire Jan 2016 #108
Facebook Lage Nom Ai Jan 2016 #111
So wait... retrowire Jan 2016 #112
I wouldn't know Lage Nom Ai Jan 2016 #127
Totally agree with you. retrowire Jan 2016 #130
Wow, that's different than What's Being Represented Here. Duppers Jan 2016 #117
Where is Bernie using the AARP logo? I see him speaking at a social security rally. jillan Jan 2016 #171
Sorry Lage Nom Ai Jan 2016 #185
The link to facebook? All I see is Bernie speaking at a aarp rally discussing social security. jillan Jan 2016 #187
Two down from original Lage Nom Ai Jan 2016 #190
May have been Lage Nom Ai Jan 2016 #113
Yeah, that's what I'm getting out of this. retrowire Jan 2016 #114
Same here. Duppers Jan 2016 #122
I can't find the unrec button.. denbot Jan 2016 #119
Another hit piece. blackspade Jan 2016 #120
Dammit! I'm changing my vote! Phlem Jan 2016 #131
They stole from the database so why should this surprise anyone? William769 Jan 2016 #156
Yeah their campaign crossed the Rubicon with that dirty trick workinclasszero Jan 2016 #212
This message was self-deleted by its author postatomic Jan 2016 #167
Odd Lage Nom Ai Jan 2016 #188
Where is Bernie using the AARP logo? I haven't seen it yet. jillan Jan 2016 #173
This message was self-deleted by its author postatomic Jan 2016 #177
True or not, I wished that Bernie would forget sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #176
This message was self-deleted by its author Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #196
We appreciate all the encouraging words and will be sure to vote for your candidate. thankyou gnite jeepers Jan 2016 #199
Why have I still not seen this campaign mailing? Hissyspit Jan 2016 #200
It doesn't exist. I keep asking for a link and no one can provide it. jillan Jan 2016 #202
If he used it - and I haven't seen it - the AARP should be grateful. Vinca Jan 2016 #205
The logo wasn't marked as private use only when he used it FBaggins Jan 2016 #206
I still haven't seen it. I looked all over the Internet last night. Hissyspit Jan 2016 #210
The AARP serves as insurance company shills -- so of course they back Hillary nichomachus Jan 2016 #213
. Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #214
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