2016 Postmortem

Mike__M

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79. Ronald Reagan.

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Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:38 PM

Jan 2016

No way could that happen.

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Lol: I have had it with naive Bernie Sanders idealists [View all] cali Jan 2016 OP

They're not being educated about the math to overcome the historically gerrymandered GOP congress... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #1

Congress has been investigating Benghazi for years, and repealed the ACA 60 times. jeff47 Jan 2016 #5

She wont, specific enough? She's not promising the improbable but as many measures she can take uponit7771 Jan 2016 #8

No, she's promising to strengthen the ACA. jeff47 Jan 2016 #11

Yeap, and some of that can be done unilaterally !!! Don't need congress, Sanders will soon follow uponit7771 Jan 2016 #13

No, any significant strengthening would require funding, and thus Congress. jeff47 Jan 2016 #16

All strengthening isn't money related, false dichotomy uponit7771 Jan 2016 #17

Then list some that do not cost anything. jeff47 Jan 2016 #18

Require all drug companies to list the amount they sell to other countries and open those markets uponit7771 Jan 2016 #50

So being told how much we are being screwed is strengthening the ACA? jeff47 Jan 2016 #55

Now, letting everyone else know how much medicine cost somewhere else and allowing uponit7771 Jan 2016 #58

That's reimportation. And that requires Congress, because you have to change existing laws. jeff47 Jan 2016 #62

That's if the executive wants to enforce that law, president prerogative... again, there are many uponit7771 Jan 2016 #81

Unilateral decisions, eh? So then a Preseident Sanders could accomplish LondonReign2 Jan 2016 #83

He'd follow her lead sooner or later but hasn't proffered this as a means to his ends... he wants uponit7771 Jan 2016 #84

What lead? She hasn't announced any way she would strengthen the ACA. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2016 #88

So, your claim to start enforcing the law was that she would stop enforcing the law. jeff47 Jan 2016 #85

I don't think I claimed to START enforcing the law, my point being she could choose NOT to enforce.. uponit7771 Jan 2016 #86

So many ways that Clinton has announced exactly zero ways? jeff47 Jan 2016 #87

"Strengthening the ACA" attaches her image to Obama's. senz Jan 2016 #45

To people who hate Obama with a passion of course it doesn't, to people who don't hate him it uponit7771 Jan 2016 #82

I've been an Obama supporter from the getgo. Love the guy. senz Jan 2016 #89

its bogus based on the simplest fact. There is no one in the democratic party that the roguevalley Jan 2016 #44

Oh please. I'm quite well versed on gerrymandering. cali Jan 2016 #7

You're not versed in answering simple questions though, I asked you the other day what the avg min.. uponit7771 Jan 2016 #9

I don't recall the question, dear. cali Jan 2016 #12

Good, I asked it again in the post you just responded to.. .if you're versed in gerrymandering uponit7771 Jan 2016 #15

Uponit, well done. Nitram Jan 2016 #20

Apparently you're not versed in answering simple questions either notadmblnd Jan 2016 #34

No, that's about 1% seeing I don't have a "didn't answer a question indicator" and I don't uponit7771 Jan 2016 #36

What would I need a link for? notadmblnd Jan 2016 #42

I need the link so I can answer the question cause I have no idea what you're talking about uponit7771 Jan 2016 #59

Here are some links to Jeff's question. Qutzupalotl Jan 2016 #78

Has a commitment to reach across the aisle for incremental change been the key to republican success lumberjack_jeff Jan 2016 #2

If incrementalism is a recipe for more losses then why... Nitram Jan 2016 #21

For a lot of Bernie supporters I think issue is the *nature* of the gains. sibelian Jan 2016 #28

Other than the ACA, for which his election was a mandate... lumberjack_jeff Jan 2016 #41

Naive does not equate to stupid. But Krugman's theory is suspect. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #3

"The only things that were passed during the first Clinton Presidency were bills that benefited the. Nitram Jan 2016 #24

Your last paragraph. A Simple Game Jan 2016 #68

I am not familiar with the author of this, John Avignon. m-lekktor Jan 2016 #4

It is not elitist to be pragmatic, realistic and objective. Nitram Jan 2016 #25

those are all code words for business as usual, don't rock the boat, centrism. m-lekktor Jan 2016 #29

They are only code words to someone who has already made up their mind that they are. Nitram Jan 2016 #32

I know I want a Pragmatic President Lordquinton Jan 2016 #64

Another Yalie. Downwinder Jan 2016 #6

When pragmatism is co-opted by corporatism, Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #10

Good piece. Thanks for sharing. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #14

I'd say the author is right on the money. Nitram Jan 2016 #19

No they don't Goblinmonger Jan 2016 #22

Easy. They both want affordable health care for all. Nitram Jan 2016 #26

Clinton does not want single payer. Goblinmonger Jan 2016 #27

They both want affordable health care for all Americans. Nitram Jan 2016 #30

"Sanders will start over"? Goblinmonger Jan 2016 #35

"Hillary believes." senz Jan 2016 #38

Hillary will do nothing about Marijuana laws, thanks for the info Lordquinton Jan 2016 #67

That's because her aides haven't given her a talking point on AAs in prison senz Jan 2016 #39

I don't follow, senz. Is there not a problem with over-incarceration of AAs? Nitram Jan 2016 #65

That's what we're discussing: the over-incarceration of AAs. senz Jan 2016 #74

From the Clinton web site, all designed to benefit African Americans in particular: Nitram Jan 2016 #77

Did she finally drop private prison industry bundlers? senz Jan 2016 #90

He makes some good points. treestar Jan 2016 #23

If only we could be more receptive to Republican ideas then we can get something done Fumesucker Jan 2016 #31

"Sanders doesn’t have supporters as much as he has believers." Spot on. DanTex Jan 2016 #33

Sanders' views match those of FDR and all successful democratic socialist nations. senz Jan 2016 #37

"The current post-Reagan system works only for the very rich." -- #nailedit Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #43

Yes, we must tell the truth over and over again senz Jan 2016 #57

what gives me some hope I think this time, people are really avoiding the traditional media Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #73

Yes, technology made Bernie's candidacy possible. senz Jan 2016 #76

didn't he joke he was a bit to the right of Ike? MisterP Jan 2016 #53

Yes, the national consciousness now reflects Fox News themes senz Jan 2016 #71

I'll take an idealist over a collaborator any day. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #40

Not me DownriverDem Jan 2016 #47

Me too. And that's exactly what Hillary Clinton is, a collaborator. CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #48

Your rhetoric is absurd, Vale. Nitram Jan 2016 #63

Your overreaction takes protesting too much to very disturbing depths. CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #69

On the contrary, Vale, I'm letting you know that your misuse of words is harmful.... Nitram Jan 2016 #70

Politically Naive DownriverDem Jan 2016 #46

When I read things like this... americannightmare Jan 2016 #49

Love the overheated rhetoric and the threats. Nitram Jan 2016 #66

Yawn... americannightmare Jan 2016 #93

Wow..... Smart guy(?) HenryWallace Jan 2016 #51

I seem to remember a crazy politician who said we could go to the Moon. libdem4life Jan 2016 #52

This "go slow" philosophy of the status quo nyabingi Jan 2016 #54

What utter bilge. VulgarPoet Jan 2016 #56

Screw Barney Frank. PyaarRevolution Jan 2016 #60

I'm slow, so I don't get the point of this message, Hulk Jan 2016 #61

yep! Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #72

Wow! When Paul Krugman thinks you're naive and too extreme that's saying something. politicaljunkie41910 Jan 2016 #75

Ronald Reagan. Mike__M Jan 2016 #79

If Sanders supporters are such potentially violent imbeciles as the author suggests Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #80

Has anyone checked into this cat's background? Oilwellian Jan 2016 #91

Bernie Sanders: I won't get as many votes as Obama in '08 Gothmog Jan 2016 #92