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2016 Postmortem

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babylonsister

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Mon Sep 24, 2012, 05:24 PM Sep 2012

Andrew Sullivan: President Obama: The Democrats' Ronald Reagan [View all]

I know, but read it. He is such a great writer even if you don't agree with a thing he says.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/09/23/andrew-sullivan-on-the-promise-of-obama-s-second-term.html

President Obama: The Democrats' Ronald Reagan
Sep 24, 2012 1:00 AM EDT
With his first term behind him, Obama is poised to be as significant a president as Reagan—tackling the deficit, spearheading immigration reform, and jolting the GOP back to sanity.


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I could be dreaming, I know. No doubt, my hope will be mocked as another dewy-eyed, liberal big-media fantasy. But I wore a Reagan ’80 button in high school for the same reason I wore an Obama T-shirt in ’08—not because their politics were the same, but because they were both right about the different challenges each faced, and both dreamed bigger than their rivals in times of real crisis.

The hope many Obama supporters felt four years ago was not a phony hope. We didn’t expect miracles, but a long, brutal grind against the forces and interests that brought the U.S. to its 2009 economic and moral nadir. I’ve watched this president face those forces and interests with cunning and pragmatism, but also platinum-strength persistence. Obama never promised a mistake-free presidency, or a left-liberal presidency, or an easy path ahead. He always insisted that he could not do for Americans what Americans needed to do for themselves. In his dark and sober Inaugural Address he warned that “the challenges we face are real, they are serious, and they are many. They will not be met easily or in a short span of time.”

But in a first term, he ended the Iraq War on schedule, headed off a second Great Depression, presided over much more robust private-sector job growth in his recovery than George W. Bush did in his, saved the American automobile industry, ended torture, and saw his own party embrace full marriage equality and integrate gays into the military. If those liberals who voted for him in 2008 think this is somehow a failure or a betrayal, in the context of the massive crisis he inherited, then they could not have been serious about real change in the first place. But some of us were—and still are. We understood that real change meets real resistance. In fact, you only know it’s real when the resistance is so strong. And the proper response to that resistance is not to fire the president who made this Reagan-like first-term progress in a far worse economic and fiscal climate, but to redouble on the Obama promise, to insist that America’s profound problems can only be addressed by a compromising president making bipartisan deals. And which ticket is likelier to compromise with the other party: Obama–Biden or Romney–Ryan? The question answers itself.

Just as Reagan became an icon only in his second term, Obama needs four more years to entrench and build upon the large, unfinished strides in his first term. That’s why, if you backed Obama in 2008, as a liberal wanting change, as an independent wanting pragmatic solution-seeking, or as a conservative hoping to drag the GOP back from Palin-style insanity, it makes no sense to bail on him now. Because this is when the payoff of the long game really kicks in, when stronger economic growth will put a wind at the president’s back, when a bipartisan deal on debt could lift business confidence and accelerate recovery, when universal health-care reform becomes irreversible and health-care spending is slowed, when the last soldier leaves Afghanistan, when millions of illegal immigrants can come out of the shadows and help build the next economy, and when the spiraling emotions of religious warfare can be calmed, managed, and handled, rather than intensified, polarized, and spread more widely.

This was always Obama’s promise. He has not betrayed it. And we—yes, we—-deserve a chance to fulfill it.

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No - you cannot compare Obama to Reagan Rider3 Sep 2012 #1
and Obama takes fewer naps. TeamPooka Sep 2012 #5
+1, except in the way that Republicans still revere Reagan - with blinders on. DCKit Sep 2012 #30
Without the ignorance, senility and just all around dickishness. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #2
What I like most about the comparison - GOPers gnashing their teeth over it. Avalux Sep 2012 #3
Bazinga! TeamPooka Sep 2012 #6
k+r! TeamPooka Sep 2012 #4
Perhaps we'll have a new "nine most terrifying words in the English language" KansDem Sep 2012 #7
"I'm from accounting and I'm here to help". Arctic Dave Sep 2012 #11
Hey I am an accountant and have always wanted a simple and consistent tax WCGreen Sep 2012 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #8
If you think he's a right-winger, you didn't read it. Yes, babylonsister Sep 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #15
Stop being so obtuse. I don't think he's a r/wer from having read him babylonsister Sep 2012 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #21
No, I didn't read the book, and am aware he was and might still be a conservative. babylonsister Sep 2012 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #24
Obama is no Reagan but DippyDem Sep 2012 #9
Andrew Sullivan is a nitwit. Reagan thought catsup was a vegetable. MADem Sep 2012 #12
Well, I disagree, but we're both entitled. babylonsister Sep 2012 #13
I agree with you. timber84 Sep 2012 #16
Sullivan hasn't seen the light, though--he's seen his self-interest MADem Sep 2012 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #17
You are correct--he's not a citizen yet. He's in the application process and has a green card. MADem Sep 2012 #25
Separating the man from the writing CitizenPatriot Sep 2012 #14
Obama will be the standard-bearer for the party and its face for a long time. However... NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #18
I agree totally, which is why I wasn't crazy about the title. nt babylonsister Sep 2012 #19
I agree with it in the sense that he will be an iconic figure of the party NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #22
The fact that he thinks Reagan was a great president shouldn't surprise anyone. He IS sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #27
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