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PATRICK

(12,229 posts)
76. Media gets to frost the cake
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:49 AM
Jan 2016

They too already know the type of sandbagging questions that will hit Sanders. Media blurbs will abound afterwards cherry-picking Sanders' 'defensive" remarks and Clinton's august "presidential" magnanimity. It does not even have to be rigged or rehearsed by then, just the usual brackish water flowing downhill on the media audience, our own Flint Michigan life in America experience.

Incredible as it may seem, despite the obvious constrictions on Clinton's choices, this is typical for someone in the chosen field to keep doubling down with what got them there even if it never worked very well and can't positively increase political appeal. She had to take chances with what appears very clearly now to be out of character positive, visionary appeal. Or hug the football and stay down until the clock runs out, which apparently works - as most things do- only for the establishment owning GOP.

Barred from future debates??? What future debates? Well those needed in future caucus states to game one campaign's needs suddenly and rigged beforehand over another. This latest tactic has more concerns than just Iowa. We will see a variety of "events" such as these all over the electoral map depending on how the other candidates respond to this "democratic" invitation. Nice to get exposure and meet stone throwers(in a fair media environment if it existed) but it would be just as well for Sanders to keep campaigning. His own town hall event? Why not? It won't be televised and as such it can be kept out of that mercurial DWS "or else" clause.

The Clinton campaign makes the wrong response to the big donor/frontrunner trap. However far back you care to take it, at present the only borrowed genius present in modern corporate politics is something discredited and crooked that no one really wants. And Nixon is dead though Rove is not. They might notice that the media is also hurting Clinton among Dems by highlighting the worst(unwittingly?), though apparently the campaign sees that as just fine, another symptom common to centrist Dems.

A Town Hall is not a debate. Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #1
Whatever you call it, it is a debate CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #3
riiiiiight. MrChuck Jan 2016 #10
THIS Development IS In Fact.. LAUGHABLE! CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #32
The people who have been demanding more debates ... JoePhilly Jan 2016 #30
If it is a debate, great. There should be more morningfog Jan 2016 #34
First, the debates are already not actual debates ... JoePhilly Jan 2016 #37
Check yourself. I am thrilled there will be another debate, if it is. morningfog Jan 2016 #41
Bingo. Direct hit. " ... the DNC is still full of shit, and their prior positions laid bare. ..." GoneFishin Jan 2016 #78
the format will be, wendylaroux Jan 2016 #56
It's not hypocrisy at all... HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #2
They aren't calling it a "debate", John Poet Jan 2016 #4
Desperation by Camp WeatherVane is what it is but that is Purveyor Jan 2016 #5
That is so true LOL Lawud Jan 2016 #74
Interesting timing... Ed Schultz starts on RT right before the debate and sport event conflicts... cascadiance Jan 2016 #77
This is a last minute event organized because somebody fears things are not going their way. highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #6
Yeah... What About That Fucking "Exclusion Clause? Typical DNC... Rules Are "Fluid" CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #35
You're right, this event is not organized by the DNC CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #65
Well I guess this is the rare case where No does not mean No awake Jan 2016 #7
I have a feeling Bernie will perform even better SheilaT Jan 2016 #8
I don't know about that...I'm sorry to say CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #15
I Am As A Former Congressional Candidate and Dem Nominee Very Familiar With DWS and Her CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #40
Do not underestimate Bernie. SheilaT Jan 2016 #73
They did at least one other town hall. This is not a debate Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #9
"without fear of direct rebuttal from Bernie and Martin." Bingo. arcane1 Jan 2016 #12
How do you know that they won't be on stage simultaneously? CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #16
OK, I phrased that poorly. You are right. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #24
Yes, I agree with you CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #62
Sure sounds like a set-up to me! John Poet Jan 2016 #75
The perpetually outraged remain outraged. JoePhilly Jan 2016 #11
And the perpetually outrageous remain outrageous. demwing Jan 2016 #17
And the terminally in denial want everyone to be in denial as well CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #21
So now you are upset Bernie gets another debate opportunity????? JoePhilly Jan 2016 #26
I'm not demwing Jan 2016 #42
So why all the whining by Bernie supporters in this thread? JoePhilly Jan 2016 #43
Because we don't trust the last minute change, and with good reason. demwing Jan 2016 #63
Did you see this, Demwing? This Town Hall will be run by a long-time Hillary supporter CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #66
Unbelievable? Not in this election... demwing Jan 2016 #71
Jury results: 6-1 to keep stevenleser Jan 2016 #45
Wow ... I think I'm asking a reasonable question ... JoePhilly Jan 2016 #48
More of the same. Bernie supporters can crap on Hillary, her supporters, Bernie critics etc but if stevenleser Jan 2016 #55
We've been demanding a fair debate schedule CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #59
Actually, I do not care how many debates they hold. JoePhilly Jan 2016 #60
I don't trust Hillary Clinton CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #64
I think its the paranoia. JoePhilly Jan 2016 #68
Well, I've experienced two rounds of Hillary in Iowa CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #70
It's only paranoia if its an irrational mistrust demwing Jan 2016 #72
Remeber that "set uP' With The Little Girl Asking About Bullying A Few Weeks Ago? CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #46
Attacking a little girl ... well played!!! JoePhilly Jan 2016 #53
It appears that the DNC and the "powers that be" in the Democratic Party CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #13
HRH wanted another debate because she's PLUMMETING in the polls, so of course they were in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #14
yep, I think so. nt antigop Jan 2016 #19
So bernie will kick her ass and you will be thrilled, right? JoePhilly Jan 2016 #28
I want more debates. Is this a debate? morningfog Jan 2016 #36
The OP says it is. Disagree, take it up with them. JoePhilly Jan 2016 #39
I'm not against it. Don't try to think for me. You'll fuck it up. morningfog Jan 2016 #47
Then you should tell some of the angry Bernie folks in this thread to ... JoePhilly Jan 2016 #51
They can think for themselves. Always trying to guess/manage others' morningfog Jan 2016 #58
This Will Be Set Up To Allow HRC A Forum To Basically Tell More Half Truths And Fibs In CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #50
So you think Bernie's mic won't work? JoePhilly Jan 2016 #52
Just look at it as one more chance for Hillary to show the people how dirty she plays. cui bono Jan 2016 #18
Wonder who will get the last word? (n/t) Mike__M Jan 2016 #27
First time I heard anything about this was today ... slipslidingaway Jan 2016 #20
Isn't a Town Hall just a debate with different questioners? DAMANgoldberg Jan 2016 #22
And it's scheduled in prime time on a Monday...not a weekend! CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #23
It truly is amazing what can be done when there is political will. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #25
Is like to see the rules and format for this event. morningfog Jan 2016 #31
I was just wondering how the audience will be stacked? Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #33
Hand picked by HRH/DWS/Corrupt corporate owned CNN. in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #38
It's sad but I have to agree with all four of your major points. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #49
oh it absolutely is. wendylaroux Jan 2016 #57
Yep, the person spearheading this Town Hall is longtime Clinton supporter/activist CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #69
So when the candidate of their choice needs more debates, there will be more debates. liberal_at_heart Jan 2016 #29
Agreed. nt LittleBlue Jan 2016 #61
Good Kalidurga Jan 2016 #44
As Bernie moves into the lead expect DWS to suddenly become a fan of debates. pa28 Jan 2016 #54
Watch, Pantsuit will plant her own version of Joe the Plumber... Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #67
Media gets to frost the cake PATRICK Jan 2016 #76
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