Atheists & Agnostics
In reply to the discussion: What Vic Stenger and Ken Ham have in common! [View all]RLBaty
(335 posts)I'm not obsessed with Stenger, and there is no trap set.
Just as with those who agree with Ken Ham about the age of stuff, so many atheists agree with Vic Stenger.
If they would publicly answer my three simple questions, and discuss as necessary, it would, I believe, help those who share their fundamental beliefs from making certain blunders on the simple stuff.
I didn't ask for proof of the major premise.
You and I agree that the major premise has not been proven.
I have asked if Vic Stenger believes the major premise to be true.
You have implicitly indicated that you believe it to be true (i.e., that man was able to originate the idea and that man did originate the idea by the power of imagination and that it was not a result of reason and/or revelation).
I do NOT believe (A) implies (B), but you have made it rather clear, explicitly and/or implicitly, that you believe it to be true beyond the "proof"/"evidence" which you admit you do not have.
One the points of the exercise is to emphasize just such as you seem to want to emphasize: Atheists/Atheism implies the truth of the premises.
Atheists believe the premises to be true beyond the evidence.
I get that.
I have tried to emphasize that.
You have helped to emphasize that.
As a leader of the new atheist movement, what does Vic Stenger have to say about those three simple issues?
Oh, that's right!
Vic Stenger ran off!