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longship

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18. My question... Einstein!
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:54 PM
Nov 2012

General relativity says mass warps space. Special Relativity says that mass originates from energy:


........E
M = -----
.......C^2


The title of Einstein's 1905 paper was (in English): Does the Inertia of a Body Depend on Its Energy Content? (one of two on special relativity that year)

So the above algebraic restatement of Einstein's iconic E = MC^2 recapitulates the question posed in the paper's title. (A tip of the hat to Frank Wilczek, for that.)

So, how are you going to warp space sufficiently without either a huge amount of mass, or a huge concentration of energy?

I know... Dilithium crystals and anti-matter, eh?

Sorry, the former is fiction; the latter takes orders of magnitude of energy more to generate it than is released in using it as fuel -- the most efficient in the universe, as far as anybody knows.

And how are you going to generate enough concentrated energy to warp space sufficiently without destroying yourself? Plus, your equivalent mass is related to that energy as well. Matter/anti-matter anialation is only so efficient. Plus, you still have to carry enough anti-matter and matter with which to anialate.

Sorry, people. No warp drives.

on edit: sorry about the equation. Ignore the dots.
OfF World here we come...nt DaDeacon Nov 2012 #1
Three words... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #2
YES! mzteris Nov 2012 #3
Cool! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #4
that's nice. is there the slightest evidence that it will actually work? struggle4progress Nov 2012 #5
None whatsoever. sir pball Nov 2012 #6
But you can't discount it. Unicorn farts led to many amazing technologies we have today. Kablooie Nov 2012 #7
Yes and no sir pball Nov 2012 #9
Oh yeah? Well how does the Starship Enterprise do it, huh? Kablooie Nov 2012 #12
Maybe Geordi LaForge went back to 1994 to introduce Ilsa Nov 2012 #14
This thread reminds me of a conversation. WinstonSmith4740 Nov 2012 #15
Going 25000 MPH may have seemed difficult FiveGoodMen Nov 2012 #19
I wish it were just details like that sir pball Nov 2012 #25
Me, too. WinstonSmith4740 Nov 2012 #26
Thing is, sir pball Dec 2012 #28
This will be great news for this group>>> rwsanders Nov 2012 #8
Cool website, thanks for the link. malthaussen Nov 2012 #24
Humans are not allowed to own or operate warp drives. hunter Nov 2012 #10
No, we are allowed. But...the Vulcans will be closely monitoring us Harry Monroe Nov 2012 #22
weaponized space FreedomRain Nov 2012 #11
IIRC, there is a lethal problem with the Alcubierre drive. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #29
This is where I want my taxes to go felix_numinous Nov 2012 #13
That would equate to 75 billion miles per hour. BlueJazz Nov 2012 #16
Seriously? SariesNightly Nov 2012 #17
My question... Einstein! longship Nov 2012 #18
Now, we have to wait for Zefram Cochrane Canuckistanian Nov 2012 #20
And is on a planet orbiting Alpha Centauri Harry Monroe Nov 2012 #23
You can't break the laws of nature, but you can bend them. DetlefK Nov 2012 #21
Oh this is such bullshit! Glassunion Dec 2012 #27
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