I wonder what an atheist would think when seeing these kinds of stuffs

[Heddi]

58. You don't seem to be willing to accept the fact

that nearly everyone (or perhaps everyone...I haven't surveyed all the responses you've gotten) in this thread is telling you that these people are not under supernatural forces. These manifestations are not from black magic or spells or demons.

I have a very hard time believing that something as amazing as wires growing out of someone's body, or nails appearing in someone's intestines wouldn't be published in western medical journals if these were truly cause by biological or natural means. Medicine LOVES this stuff...I mean shit, even the most cynical skeptic and hater of traditional medicine would see that this is something that needs research, a cure, treatment....why would Western medicine ignore these outstanding new medical issues if they were real?

The truth of the matter is that they're not real. That Dr's in your country refuse to diagnose them as attention-seeking behaviour, or mental illness, or munchausen's by proxy means nothing to me.

There are MD's in the US that have questionable ethics, that are motivated by fame and money, and will say that AIDS is a made-up disease. That will say that cancer can be cured by eating Oranges.

Just because a Dr says it, or doesn't say it, doesn't make it true.

And you say "I think it would be wise for a person who believes in science to find out more about the story before making a conclusion that it is total bullshit."

Well, firstly, Science isn't something that you believe or don't believe in. Science isn't a religion. Gravity exists whether you believe in it or not. Photosynthesis will occur regardless of whether there is a church in its name or not.

And despite your pleas for "tell me what you think,' when people DO tell you what they think, you get very defensive and seemingly don't want to hear what these people are saying.

There is no black magic at work in these cases. If you want someone to agree with you that these are instances where demons have put wires in people's bodies, I think you're on the wrong website, or perhaps the wrong forum. You may find a more sympathetic audience here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1220 , as I know at one time there were many proponents of the totally made up "Morgellon's Disease" in that group, but I don't know if that's the case now.

Also, I'm not sure why you're interested in what Atheists think regarding this. I think there are many non-Atheists here who have just as much time swallowing the "it's black magic" diagnosis.