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Lordquinton

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32. Faith is commitment to a position with no evidence

Reply to Thats my opinion (Reply #18)

Sat Apr 6, 2013, 10:05 PM

Apr 2013

When you have evidence you no longer have faith, even the slightest actual proof removes faith. I don't have faith in my friends, I have years of tested experience that I can rely on to lead me to believe they will act in a way I predict, that's science.

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Scientific fact vrs. religious faith? [View all] Thats my opinion Apr 2013 OP

A scientist can generally tell you what facts would change their mind about a theory. trotsky Apr 2013 #1

except humility in a scientific dispute is honored as proper ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2013 #2

As long as you keep identifying religion with fundamentalism Thats my opinion Apr 2013 #4

I think that's why he says "fundie religions" EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2013 #13

Scientific Theories are models of reality... Ron Obvious Apr 2013 #3

You last major paragraph is on target. Thats my opinion Apr 2013 #6

OK. Ron Obvious Apr 2013 #10

Science is NOT "simply a collection of unalterable facts." cleanhippie Apr 2013 #5

No really it is. They are all in The Big Book of Unalterable Science Facts. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #17

Few points... gcomeau Apr 2013 #7

Yours is a very helpful response. Thats my opinion Apr 2013 #9

I would just point out... gcomeau Apr 2013 #11

Now why are you complaining? skepticscott Apr 2013 #14

You made it through the first paragraph ok skepticscott Apr 2013 #8

I had forgotten about that gem. trotsky Apr 2013 #12

The debate between relativity and QM is "raging" you say? dimbear Apr 2013 #15

I'm just reporting how an outstanding subatomic scientist sees it. Thats my opinion Apr 2013 #18

Let me give you the best answer to another question your raise, one which may sound a little dimbear Apr 2013 #20

Ha Ha But scientists report that both are correct. nt. Thats my opinion Apr 2013 #24

You really, really need to read this link that skepticscott provided: trotsky Apr 2013 #25

What are the bets? skepticscott Apr 2013 #29

No chance he reads it. trotsky Apr 2013 #30

If you're going to Ha Ha, Charles skepticscott Apr 2013 #28

I suspect you misunderstood him. gcomeau Apr 2013 #23

OMG Charles skepticscott Apr 2013 #31

Faith is commitment to a position with no evidence Lordquinton Apr 2013 #32

I think "faith" is the wrong word to use goldent Apr 2013 #16

Science seems clear Thats my opinion Apr 2013 #19

Which is why fundamental scientific theories skepticscott Apr 2013 #21

" Cosmologists were certain that Ptolemy was right. And then they were certain Copernicus was right. edhopper Apr 2013 #22

Well, I know of no raging debate between QM and relativity. longship Apr 2013 #26

Sorry, Charles...there is no "raging debate" skepticscott Apr 2013 #27

It looks like your friend, the physicist, knew what he was talking about. Jim__ Apr 2013 #33