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dimbear

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14. The traditional human method of settling arguments involves evidence, and

Reply to rug (Reply #13)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:49 PM

Nov 2012

over the years observers have come to gravely suspect arguments supported by evidence in the custody of an interested party.

If this is cynicism, it is cynicism in good company.

I don't believe that there is any practical question whether Constantine and his immediate followers burned opposing documents en masse. This is IMHO simply a fact of history, but of course the era was a troubled one.

I recommend interested parties investigate the persecutions suffered by the followers of Bacchus. That won't take a great deal of time.

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He makes some excellent points. I have been particularly disturbed about cbayer Nov 2012 #1

It's very much worth understanding that Christianity was constructed to support government dimbear Nov 2012 #2

Drivel. rug Nov 2012 #3

That's a little harsh. dimbear Nov 2012 #4

Well, maybe. rug Nov 2012 #5

You are likely to run across a very interesting urban legend about Constantine's choice. dimbear Nov 2012 #6

The persecutions had already stopped under Galerius before Constantine. rug Nov 2012 #9

I'm not saying that Christianity owes its existence to Saint Constantine. What is true is dimbear Nov 2012 #10

Every human who has encountered Christianity has put his or her own stamp on it. rug Nov 2012 #11

For Saint Constantine we have the advantage of seeing both sides of the coin. dimbear Nov 2012 #12

I didn't know you were Orthodox. Constantine is considered a saint only in the Eastern Church, rug Nov 2012 #13

The traditional human method of settling arguments involves evidence, and dimbear Nov 2012 #14

Suspicion, even under the rosiest of motives, is not evidence. rug Nov 2012 #15

As you can imagine, it is the second listed event to which I chiefly refer. dimbear Nov 2012 #16

I agree that most religious persecutions are brought in the name of preserving state order. rug Nov 2012 #17

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Well, I see your personal attacks are as original as your thoughts on religion. rug Nov 2012 #8