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MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
12. You are confusing me with someone else.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:50 PM
Aug 2012

My post was very clear. I did not say that anyone should do anything. I said that if they are dissatisfied with their church, they have options.

I suggested one that many people I know have found to be a good choice. My suggestion is based on my own knowledge, as well, of liturgy and beliefs.

Please do not put words in my mouth that I did not say. Please read carefully. Please do not think you understand anything about me other than what I write here. You do not. I do not evangelize for atheism at any time. If someone has religious beliefs, that is their choice or belief. It doesn't bother me at all, and I have no interest in converting them to non-belief. I do not even believe that to be possible.

If they are looking for a change, I have a fairly complete knowledge of doctrine and practices of all major denominations of Christianity. It's a hobby of mine to learn those things. I will give recommendations if asked.

In discussion forums like this one, where religion and theology are discussed, I will state my non-belief and criticize anything I wish. In my personal life, I almost never discuss religion with anyone, unless they introduce the topic, and then I discuss it based on their background and beliefs. This is not my personal life. It is a discussion group with the topic of religion and theology. I will speak my mind here, and I will do so freely and without rancor.

I will not, however, accept distortions of what I have plainly written. If you misstate something I have said, I will tell you so, bluntly, if necessary, but politely. I will use polite language to do so. If you would rather not read what I think, you have an option you can use to avoid doing so. But, please do not restate anything I have said to change its meaning.

Again, I will not be stepping foot inside a Catholic Church Dawson Leery Aug 2012 #1
OK rug Aug 2012 #2
Google: "manhattan declaration" Dawson Leery Aug 2012 #4
Thanks, I never heard of them. rug Aug 2012 #7
And this was copycatted by a British group in 2010 as the 'Westminster Declaration' LeftishBrit Aug 2012 #18
Wow, that's nearly identical. rug Aug 2012 #25
Even evangelicals shouldn't be broad-brushed ButterflyBlood Aug 2012 #16
Hmmm.... that's a mixed message. cbayer Aug 2012 #3
Yeah, but it's easy to be a non-catholic right now, MineralMan Aug 2012 #6
Religion is a highly personal choice. Not you, not I, not anyone gets to cbayer Aug 2012 #9
I tell nobody anything about their religious choices. MineralMan Aug 2012 #10
If someone is thinking of leaving their church and asks your advice, that's one thing. cbayer Aug 2012 #11
You are confusing me with someone else. MineralMan Aug 2012 #12
Certainly it is different. Dawson Leery Aug 2012 #13
Wow, that's some incredible distortion in order to gin up outrage. trotsky Aug 2012 #19
One question.... Fix The Stupid Aug 2012 #20
Uh oh. trotsky Aug 2012 #21
Of course parents are making choices for their kids, cbayer Aug 2012 #23
So it's just coincidence that far and away most adults "freely choose"... trotsky Aug 2012 #24
Not this parent atreides1 Aug 2012 #27
That's why in some states you have to be a certain age to drive, to drink, to join the military and demosincebirth Aug 2012 #29
Hmmm. Lots of straw in that reply. Fix The Stupid Aug 2012 #30
You know, if I answer you, I think it will start a process like banging my head against the wall. demosincebirth Aug 2012 #37
Well, educate me then... Fix The Stupid Aug 2012 #38
That's a rather patronizing post. rug Aug 2012 #14
Thank you! Freddie Aug 2012 #15
Not really. It's all in the framing of the message. rug Aug 2012 #8
They are political business and behave like a lobbyists FarPoint Aug 2012 #5
Since when did "religious liberty" get redefined to include forcing others to live by your beliefs? Humanist_Activist Aug 2012 #17
Religious bigotry is being relabeled as "religious liberty"? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #22
Oh FFS. Arugula Latte Aug 2012 #26
Divide among even religous Catholics and Bishops HockeyMom Aug 2012 #28
Would you care to make a list of religious liberties and/or that are at risk?? Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #31
What a fake canard edhopper Aug 2012 #32
Agree, but I don't think the general membership is going to fall for it. cbayer Aug 2012 #33
Hope not edhopper Aug 2012 #34
There has been some discussion of that lately. cbayer Aug 2012 #35
If it were a democratic institution edhopper Aug 2012 #36
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