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cleanhippie

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46. Agreed.

Reply to brendan120678 (Reply #14)

Fri May 11, 2012, 08:10 PM

May 2012

However, if it was beneficial to society at large (and deemed so by secular policy makers) would it not have grounding outside of religion?

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Should a really good public policy that has a basis in religious belief be made into law? [View all] cleanhippie May 2012 OP

Good policy is good policy. RandySF May 2012 #1

Yes, but.... cleanhippie May 2012 #7

That's the question Why Syzygy May 2012 #15

You said "a" basis, not "the" basis. bananas May 2012 #20

Just for you, replace "a" with "it's" cleanhippie May 2012 #22

I voted Pass Goblinmonger May 2012 #2

Can you cite an example? KansDem May 2012 #3

This is purely a hypothetical exercise. cleanhippie May 2012 #8

I voted yes but am interested in what criteria policy makers should use LARED May 2012 #4

Is the policy soley based on a relgious belief? cleanhippie May 2012 #9

That's a different question than asked in the poll LARED May 2012 #40

Im answering the question you posed to me. cleanhippie May 2012 #45

If your point was to establish that good public policy can exist, and does, outside of religious LARED May 2012 #48

It's is obvious then that the point was over your head. cleanhippie May 2012 #49

Your words LARED May 2012 #55

Whoosh! cleanhippie May 2012 #58

So explain to this poor denighted DU'er. LARED May 2012 #59

Pass. cleanhippie May 2012 #60

Figured as much LARED May 2012 #62

You can just add that to the list of other things you need to believe cleanhippie May 2012 #66

Don't you get tired of being wrong? LARED May 2012 #69

It's much easier to claim "I win" when you get to do that. Leontius May 2012 #70

Post removed Post removed May 2012 #72

Hahaha! If you say so, lared cleanhippie May 2012 #71

You mean like 'thou shalt not kill'? Scuba May 2012 #5

This is just hypothetical. cleanhippie May 2012 #10

Can't deal with reality, eh? bananas May 2012 #21

As a believer, It would seem that it is YOU that has the issue with reality. cleanhippie May 2012 #23

For someone using childishly inapt and naive "gotcha" tactics... Silent3 May 2012 #57

Sure - secular groups never thought of that one. dmallind May 2012 #12

Us atheists don't have morality, remember/ Scuba May 2012 #25

No such thing exists. Fresh_Start May 2012 #6

We share the same thoughts. cleanhippie May 2012 #24

of course I am judging by western religions Fresh_Start May 2012 #27

The closest thing to that may be the Unitarian Universalists. cleanhippie May 2012 #28

Counterintuitively, I voted yes. I need to show caveats however dmallind May 2012 #11

No, it violates prong 1 of the Lemon test longship May 2012 #13

Lemon does not address origin of the idea dmallind May 2012 #19

Entanglement? That would be prong 3 of the Lemon test longship May 2012 #50

Where the fuck does it entangle? dmallind May 2012 #52

"...merely takes an idea from religion." longship May 2012 #64

Hypothetically, if there was a religious-based public policy that was deemed to be... brendan120678 May 2012 #14

Agreed. cleanhippie May 2012 #46

Good policy is good policy. Its origins are irrelevant. n/t cynatnite May 2012 #16

If it's a good policy its origins are irrelevant. rug May 2012 #17

actually, religious beliefs are based on public policy (public opinion really). good people preceded msongs May 2012 #18

We have a winner! cleanhippie May 2012 #26

If it's "really good," you'll find it can be stated with no reference whatsoever to religious belief 2ndAmForComputers May 2012 #29

Bam! Winner! cleanhippie May 2012 #34

Yes. laconicsax May 2012 #30

Who decides what is good policy? cleanhippie May 2012 #31

Those charged with voting on it. laconicsax May 2012 #32

You mean like the voters of North Carolina? cleanhippie May 2012 #33

I never said that voters always get it right. laconicsax May 2012 #35

I think 2amforcomputers nailed it with this... cleanhippie May 2012 #36

And I agree completely with that assessment. laconicsax May 2012 #37

Perhaps I needed to be more specific. cleanhippie May 2012 #38

That, to me, reads as a different issue than your OP laconicsax May 2012 #41

It is different from the OP cleanhippie May 2012 #47

The laws against consuming human flesh as a dietary staple have a religious origin. dimbear May 2012 #39

kuru struggle4progress May 2012 #42

There were also many religious and cultural rituals and practices that encouraged... Humanist_Activist May 2012 #43

There are loads of cultures across history that didn't practice cannibalism laconicsax May 2012 #53

The one that comes to mind is Judaism. Human flesh isn't kosher. dimbear May 2012 #63

Judaism wasn't required for other cultures to avoid cannibalism. laconicsax May 2012 #65

There is no such thing as a good public policy that has solely religious origins... Humanist_Activist May 2012 #44

Selected pass. rrneck May 2012 #51

Yes, if it's a good policy in general LeftishBrit May 2012 #54

If religion is the *only* basis, then no. trotsky May 2012 #56

I vote yes. westerebus May 2012 #61

I am going to define "good public policy" as "public policy currently favored by ZombieHorde." ZombieHorde May 2012 #67

If it's good policy, it can be justified by secular means. backscatter712 May 2012 #68

I'll pass AlbertCat May 2012 #73