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Joseph8th

(228 posts)
58. Short answer: Yes, IF we replace "defeat" with "win respect from" bullies.
Tue May 8, 2012, 05:32 AM
May 2012

Though there is something satisfying about the transformation in the bully's demeanor after a good ass-kicking. Let's keep in mind who we're talking about here. Bullies do not deserve sympathy when the chickens come home to roost. They are never the underdog.

Let's say you (rhetorical) endured long periods of looking into bullies' stupid faces as they leered and taunted, contorted by unthinking hate -- while they (take your pick) slam you into walls/lockers; spit on you; flush you; beat up on you with fists, kicks, weapons; shoving, slapping, other assaults... Let's say this occurred over the course of several years. Three or four. It can't continue, you know this, but you don't know how to stop it until someone (let's say it's your dad) takes pity on you and lets you in on a little secret. There's a time-honored way to make the bullies go away, but it's not going to be easy or fun. "You don't have to beat them all up," dad says. "Just one or two." You take some martial arts. You throw one bully across the hallway when he grabs you from behind at the drinking fountain. You almost blind another one. Most of the bullying stops. But there's still that one guy. That one -- the guy who slammed your head into the desk repeatedly while the teacher watched, helpless. Over and over your head goes into the table.

Tell me, cbayer. Who is the biggest asshole when you explode and take the head-banger out with a chair? Did he really need all those teeth?

Substitute rhetorical you for actual me, and I'll share a secret. That was my last fight for 20 years (and then I was attacked in a bar without provocation). The bullying stopped cold. It took six months to completely turn my life around. And it's damn satisfying to watch those leering stupid faces turn away to hide the bruises you put on 'em. If you are a victim of bullying, or care about someone who is a victim -- at least give them the option. I recommend Kung Fu of some sort, though any martial arts form is quite effective against the usual American-style fisticuffs.

Good. It's about time people start calling bullshit bullshit. bowens43 Apr 2012 #1
Ah, bullshit . . . Journeyman Apr 2012 #2
Even the most fervent believers edhopper Apr 2012 #3
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #26
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #27
I am sorry the jury chose to hide that reply edhopper May 2012 #28
Don't forget homophobic! (nt) eqfan592 May 2012 #30
I know edhopper May 2012 #32
He most probably would have been axed. cbayer May 2012 #34
Wow! That was an epic TS'ing!!! Taverner May 2012 #37
I've actually heard that in real life. darkstar3 May 2012 #40
Stupid following the stupid Taverner May 2012 #46
That's funny, 'cause I know three who have. darkstar3 May 2012 #39
The TOS here would not lead to the automatic banning of a literalist. cbayer May 2012 #41
So literalists can survive here for as long as they want, as long as they stay calm? darkstar3 May 2012 #42
Oh, I know you weren't deffending him. eqfan592 May 2012 #35
Yeah edhopper May 2012 #36
Homophobes are not welcome here. cbayer May 2012 #31
See #32 nt edhopper May 2012 #33
I think a majority of the LGBT group would disagree with you on that. laconicsax May 2012 #43
Ain't that the truth. darkstar3 May 2012 #44
Not once identified, they aren't. cbayer May 2012 #45
I'm not sure you really pay attention. laconicsax May 2012 #47
Are you a member of the GLBT community here? cbayer May 2012 #48
I'm represented by the alphabet soup, yes. laconicsax May 2012 #51
If you are a member of the GLBT community, then I will defer to your increased level of cbayer May 2012 #52
"Some were labeled homophobes just because of actions they had to take at various times" obamanut2012 May 2012 #49
Like moderators, including some who are GLBT members themselves. cbayer May 2012 #50
Saying "bullshit" to young people who truly believe in the bible is a turn off and you aren't southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #4
I disagree - Dan admitted where he was wrong EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2012 #21
I know we have a right to disagree. I just think with young people as soon as you southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #23
Teenagers are pretty rebellious EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2012 #24
Excellent points. Its just hard as he is speaking they are walking out. Nothing accomplished. southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #25
It would seem that the kids that walked out... rexcat May 2012 #38
Disrespecting an idea is not the same as disrespecting a person... Act_of_Reparation May 2012 #29
I disagree... Joseph8th May 2012 #54
So are you saying that the only way to defeat bullies is to be a bigger bully? cbayer May 2012 #55
To "defeat"? ... Joseph8th May 2012 #57
Dan Savage does not agree with you. cbayer May 2012 #60
Short answer: Yes, IF we replace "defeat" with "win respect from" bullies. Joseph8th May 2012 #58
Well at least he thinks it was wrong WolverineDG Apr 2012 #5
That's exactly how the right wing is framing it, too. trotsky Apr 2012 #6
Broken clocks are right twice a day nt WolverineDG Apr 2012 #9
I'm sure they appreciate you repeating their talking points for them! trotsky Apr 2012 #18
You too! nt WolverineDG Apr 2012 #19
He apologized for the pansy-ass comment. I think he was emotionally reacting, cbayer Apr 2012 #7
Understandable? How? WolverineDG Apr 2012 #8
Speaking of bullshit.... eqfan592 Apr 2012 #10
Exactly right! If journalist students cannot be bothered oilpro2 Apr 2012 #12
While I couldn't disagree with their position more, I defend their right to walk out. cbayer Apr 2012 #13
Having the right to do something and being right in doing something are... eqfan592 Apr 2012 #15
I agree. I just wouldn't want to abdicate my right to walk out of something cbayer Apr 2012 #17
In journalism, as in many professions, one has to put up with.. oilpro2 Apr 2012 #16
Another vote for adults bullying students nt WolverineDG Apr 2012 #20
How, exactly, are you getting that from what I typed? Nt eqfan592 May 2012 #59
I just think he was taken off guard and reacted from the gut. cbayer Apr 2012 #11
The Bible says seven terrible things about homosexual relationships. Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #14
Are you saying that the bible always condemns domination of the weak by the strong? EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2012 #22
isn't that a sneakaround uriel1972 May 2012 #53
That's often the view of people who call themselves "liberal Christians." darkstar3 May 2012 #56
The whole context of the David Jonathan story is sexually explicit. Thats my opinion May 2012 #61
Sexually EXplicit? I must have missed that part. Care to cite? darkstar3 May 2012 #62
I didn't say you said it uriel1972 May 2012 #63
That's the crux of the whole problem. Plantaganet May 2012 #64
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