Religion

ZombieHorde

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228. Not all of them.

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:31 AM

Apr 2016

Wicca, Satanism, Taoism, Discordianism, Neo-Druidism, Golden Dawn, and the Illuminates of Thanatos all have nonviolent holy books, if I remember correctly. I haven't read all of the Buddhist Sutras, but the ones I have read were nonviolent.

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It's fortunate for the people of Brussels that Islam is the 'Religion of Peace', [View all] mr blur Mar 2016 OP

This only happened because Sam Harris is a racist Islamaphobe. cleanhippie Mar 2016 #1

i'm tired of people calling me a bigot because i'm stating reality. Was there any doubt MariaThinks Mar 2016 #15

oh please, the bombers wear regular Western civilian clothes. kwassa Mar 2016 #68

disgusting murderers. MariaThinks Mar 2016 #80

So that means the aren't radical Muslims? Goblinmonger Mar 2016 #133

you are missing my point ... kwassa Mar 2016 #154

i know, what was the point of the picture. nothing to see here? MariaThinks Mar 2016 #165

How 'bout keeping your bigotry to yourself? hueymahl Mar 2016 #2

Not using. Being used by. They are a small part of the billion yes, but driven by the same cause. whatthehey Mar 2016 #4

Just so I am completely clear hueymahl Mar 2016 #8

The "dark force" in Islam would be the passages in the Koran, and the hadiths... trotsky Mar 2016 #10

You say it yourself: it is this "taking seriously" that is the problem, Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #183

If it weren't for religion skepticscott Mar 2016 #184

True. All religions. n/t Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #186

Not all of them. ZombieHorde Apr 2016 #228

Sure, although, Ghost Dog Apr 2016 #229

It's not mysterious at all. whatthehey Mar 2016 #14

very true. the fact that someone can be stoned to death for adultry or criticising a religion MariaThinks Mar 2016 #17

Religion is a human construct hueymahl Mar 2016 #18

So what should the standard be to call something a "religion of peace?" trotsky Mar 2016 #19

The whole "tiny minority" meme skepticscott Mar 2016 #21

Linking religious violence to mental illness is also an insult to the mentally ill, trotsky Mar 2016 #22

Well to be fair it is occasionally specifically true whatthehey Mar 2016 #25

"Suicide bombing" isn't the only skepticscott Mar 2016 #30

True enough; the overall favorability of terrorist groups is even more damning whatthehey Mar 2016 #33

Interesting footnote, Pakistan appears to have had about enough of that shit. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #44

hueymahl said not the religiously violent but Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #178

Did he give odds on that? rug Mar 2016 #180

Who knows? I'll ask my cat. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #185

Yes it is, and an inherently lethal and vicious construct whatthehey Mar 2016 #24

The fatal flaw of your argument lhecker51 Mar 2016 #115

You say (all true) Muslims do, yet describe fundamentalists. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #188

I'll quote the entire OP that you think disparages an entire religion muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #125

Islamic culture and it's peoples and societies have, historically, Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #182

So? What cultures haven't? skepticscott Mar 2016 #187

I see that in the USA many, actually, and many more potentially, in fact do. n/t Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #189

what a small part of a billion? there are over 20000 isis fighters in syria alone. is that a small MariaThinks Mar 2016 #16

Again to be fair small ratios of huge numbers are not insignificant whatthehey Mar 2016 #36

the numbers are not remotely that small MariaThinks Mar 2016 #42

Maybe so. Have no clue. Whatever the number is it is far too many whatthehey Mar 2016 #60

0.01% of 1.8 million Muslim is 180. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #191

And 0.02% is 360. Math is easy, but what number should we satrt seeking? whatthehey Mar 2016 #207

how many of the billion support stoning to death of gay people? MariaThinks Mar 2016 #167

As an excuse? Seriously? skepticscott Mar 2016 #9

If it makes you feel any better, christians make me nervous too. Timothy McVeigh, etc. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #43

Guy, please. ISIS is just following Allah's commands: Herman4747 Mar 2016 #55

very telling about the billions DustyJoe Mar 2016 #67

Not true. Imams do denounce these atrocities both when perpetrated in the west and Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #192

You have obviously not read the Quran and relative hadiths.... lhecker51 Mar 2016 #112

Note taken. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #193

Religious extremism is a blight on humanity Trajan Mar 2016 #129

what does the billion people thing mean? MariaThinks Mar 2016 #166

Unrec! hrmjustin Mar 2016 #3

Wow, that's a powerful argument. cleanhippie Mar 2016 #5

. Iggo Mar 2016 #11

Yes. A Christian would have dropped a nuke. Maybe two. nt Xipe Totec Mar 2016 #6

And those damn, pesky Scientologists skepticscott Mar 2016 #7

but they haven't. MariaThinks Mar 2016 #13

Uh, are we forgetting Hiroshima and Nagasaki? nt Xipe Totec Mar 2016 #20

In hindset there is very little debate that dropping "the bomb" was a bad decision. jonno99 Mar 2016 #23

so true. innocent people keep dying while these words are repeated MariaThinks Mar 2016 #12

Good Lord vdogg Mar 2016 #26

You mean Daesh, don't you? blm Mar 2016 #27

I need a shower. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #28

Mr Blur, I'll be happy to anwer the question you pose above. Nitram Mar 2016 #29

Actually you can skepticscott Mar 2016 #31

"violence against blasphemers and infidels" is not an Islamic monopoly. Nitram Mar 2016 #206

Religion is an idea. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #45

You say that the proportion of Christians that act on such precepts is smaller. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #194

A group I am involved in is actively combating that in court. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #208

Good. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #209

You make it painfully clear you have not read the Quran.... lhecker51 Mar 2016 #116

"Islam demands the overthrow and subjugation or conversion of ALL non believers." Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #196

The Judeo/Christian Bible has similar passages. Nitram Mar 2016 #219

I cannot believe the jury let this stand. DeadLetterOffice Mar 2016 #32

I can. trotsky Mar 2016 #38

And Islam, and Christianity, being abrahamic faiths, share some of those foundational violent AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #46

You got it. trotsky Mar 2016 #49

It's unnecessarily cruel at a time when cruelty... DeadLetterOffice Mar 2016 #99

Is it cruel to acknowledge reality? trotsky Mar 2016 #110

Do post the jury results skepticscott Mar 2016 #41

I'll post them. I was the person who alerted. noamnety Mar 2016 #79

It doesn't surprise me skepticscott Mar 2016 #90

Yes this guy does just that. Leontius Mar 2016 #172

Yes, damn him for being bigoted skepticscott Mar 2016 #179

You lead the way. Leontius Mar 2016 #198

You read the threads in here skepticscott Mar 2016 #200

I give each post it's properly deserved response. Leontius Mar 2016 #210

Share, won't you? bvf Mar 2016 #76

Would if I had 'em, but I wasn't the first alerter... DeadLetterOffice Mar 2016 #98

Thank you for promoting terrorist propaganda ... salinsky Mar 2016 #34

Sure, right skepticscott Mar 2016 #37

It is not the "West" that has imposed ignorance skepticscott Mar 2016 #39

That's funny, because education and modernity is corrosive to religion. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #47

Of course it is ... salinsky Mar 2016 #51

Bringing modernity and education has been viewed as hostility from the west. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #52

I'm not a fan of organized religion ... salinsky Mar 2016 #54

I don't think it's bigotry to acknowledge the reality that 'this shit is a problem' among a list of AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #57

Yeah, right skepticscott Mar 2016 #56

Except that Islamic State want the whole world to convert to Islam muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #126

"education and modernity" trotsky Mar 2016 #50

Yeah, well ignorance and barbarity are very effective tools with which to control the populace ... salinsky Mar 2016 #53

Leaders of Islam were engaging in that kind of behavior... trotsky Mar 2016 #59

Please stop conflating terrorism with Islam. Maedhros Mar 2016 #35

First he would have to START doing that skepticscott Mar 2016 #40

Please don't tell me what to do or what I know or should know - mr blur Mar 2016 #48

I pity you. procon Mar 2016 #58

You got this one, mr. blur? skepticscott Mar 2016 #61

Save your pity for the religious - they need it. mr blur Mar 2016 #85

I just react poorly to bigotry. Maedhros Mar 2016 #63

Like most others in here skepticscott Mar 2016 #65

In this case, the terrorism was Islamic. trotsky Mar 2016 #66

We don't call the KKK "Christian" ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #62

Does the god in the Christian Bible skepticscott Mar 2016 #64

No I'm not ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #71

The three mormons injured in the attack belong to a religion that until 1978, considered black peopl AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #74

I'm sorry - I must have missed last the event where Mormons set off a bomb? jonno99 Mar 2016 #78

Q: What is a prerequisite to bombing people? AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #81

"All the prerequisites were in place" - Please, the ONLY prerequisite that really matters is jonno99 Mar 2016 #83

That's pretty ignorant. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #84

Ok - you can't produce another religion that espouses "convert or die", so jonno99 Mar 2016 #87

I did not explicitly search, do you want me to? AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #88

No, the hautiness is from those who like to lump all religious-minded folk into jonno99 Mar 2016 #94

Christians in this country used to kill each other over which edition of the bible would be taught AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #95

Here is your fail: you're still arguing the exception rather than the rule. There jonno99 Mar 2016 #97

Historical ignornace. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #123

Yes, you've presented more arguments for the exception. jonno99 Mar 2016 #132

Did you forget what Christians Goblinmonger Mar 2016 #124

Did they command them to convert - or they'd be killed? nt jonno99 Mar 2016 #130

Um, in a lot of cases yes. Goblinmonger Mar 2016 #131

Again, argument for the exception. The problem you are describing is not systemic. nt jonno99 Mar 2016 #134

So you are honestly saying that the genocide of Native Americans Goblinmonger Mar 2016 #135

What "system" were these so-called Christians using to kill Native Americans? jonno99 Mar 2016 #136

Holy shit, you really have no idea at all. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #139

I don't even know what to say, really. Goblinmonger Mar 2016 #140

American ideas, true. But not Christian per se. Learn to differentiate. nt jonno99 Mar 2016 #143

No, they predate the European discovery of the Americas. Though they were certainly influential muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #156

Men are forever looking for a path to power. Unfortunately, religion is a perennial favorite...nt jonno99 Mar 2016 #158

No shit. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #160

I don't know what to say to this, without garnering a hide. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #138

In many cases yes. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #137

Wow - if you truly think that Islam and Christianity are the same basic religion, there jonno99 Mar 2016 #141

Yeah, i'm the ignorant one. Ok. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #142

Your words...nt jonno99 Mar 2016 #144

Fuck me running. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2016 #145

Did Theodosius and Charlemagne and the Spanish, etc. do this of their own jonno99 Mar 2016 #146

Are you a Christian, by chance? n/t Act_of_Reparation Mar 2016 #147

It's almost inconceivable that you would find a Christian on the DU "Religion" forum - jonno99 Mar 2016 #148

So, you believe that those who don't accept Jesus' sacrifice are bound for hell, right? Act_of_Reparation Mar 2016 #150

Wow, excellent diversion tactics... jonno99 Mar 2016 #151

I understand why you don't want to answer. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2016 #152

Well, what I understand is that you don't want to discuss the OP. jonno99 Mar 2016 #153

I am discussing the OP Act_of_Reparation Mar 2016 #155

Your Religion(TM) is no better than theirs. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #161

"Your Religion is no better than theirs" From what I can see you want this very much to be true. jonno99 Mar 2016 #162

So far your contribution has been 'give me examples' and you've been given examples. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #163

"you've been given examples" Well, not really. Halfway through this sub-thread I started asking jonno99 Mar 2016 #169

I pointed you to a papal bull. That's the religious text. muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #170

Am I disappointed in "men"? Yes (am I surprised? no). Your point begs the question: jonno99 Mar 2016 #171

A papal Bull is not a "religious text". Leontius Mar 2016 #174

Not a True Scotsman either, I guess. muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #177

So facts are now "diversion" . Leontius Mar 2016 #197

"twist the core beliefs" trotsky Mar 2016 #75

Nice try skepticscott Mar 2016 #77

Yeah, that'll work. procon Mar 2016 #72

I'm nothing if not self consistent ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #122

Sorry, Scott, you don't get to decide who is a "true" Christian. Nitram Mar 2016 #220

I'm not skepticscott Mar 2016 #223

then I must have misunderstood you. My apologies. Nitram Mar 2016 #224

You went to an awful lot of trouble skepticscott Mar 2016 #226

Or else you are just not very good at expressing yourself. Nitram Mar 2016 #227

Yes I do. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #73

Maybe *you* don't, but, like it or not, that's exactly bvf Mar 2016 #82

If anyone claims... rexcat Mar 2016 #114

What is clear is this bluestateguy Mar 2016 #69

Right you are. trotsky Mar 2016 #70

You know, you're right. I think I'll go to my friend Saleh Sbenaty's house cheapdate Mar 2016 #86

Talk about a silly straw man skepticscott Mar 2016 #92

Oh, I don't know... cheapdate Mar 2016 #93

You tell me skepticscott Mar 2016 #100

Oh Christ almighty. cheapdate Mar 2016 #105

So you basically agree with every point skepticscott Mar 2016 #107

Holy crap! The f%$king OP was a straw man! cheapdate Mar 2016 #111

The OP was sarcasm and hyperbole skepticscott Mar 2016 #118

Lol! cheapdate Mar 2016 #119

Or maybe not even then skepticscott Mar 2016 #120

How many you want? whatthehey Mar 2016 #149

Thanks for saving me the trouble! skepticscott Mar 2016 #175

Were you not around for the "religion had nothing to do with Charlie Hebdo" threads? truebrit71 Mar 2016 #173

No. Missed that. cheapdate Mar 2016 #181

So now you admit that plenty of people skepticscott Mar 2016 #190

What's more ridiculous, cheapdate Mar 2016 #195

And, exactly as predicted skepticscott Mar 2016 #201

An odd reply to someone who's just eaten your lunch. rug Mar 2016 #203

Oh please, he doesn't even understand the OP skepticscott Mar 2016 #213

The first to resort to smileys is the bluffer. rug Mar 2016 #215

Lol! Wrong. cheapdate Mar 2016 #205

Wrong, Scott. Nitram Mar 2016 #221

Bullshit skepticscott Mar 2016 #225

It is clearly central to the entire OP. Nitram Mar 2016 #222

I'm grateful the justice system doesn't rely heavily on anonymous internet message-board posts struggle4progress Mar 2016 #89

Yes, because if it did skepticscott Mar 2016 #91

Cheney is well-connected and, criminal or not, is in no danger of being prosecuted for anything struggle4progress Mar 2016 #108

Because it has to do with fanaticism, not faith kwassa Mar 2016 #96

And as we all know skepticscott Mar 2016 #103

no. kwassa Mar 2016 #113

Which is totally irrelevant to the point skepticscott Mar 2016 #117

That is not the point of the OP. kwassa Mar 2016 #121

Here you go: trotsky Mar 2016 #157

Luckily for the people of Iraq EdwardBernays Mar 2016 #101

If Islamic State represents all Muslims tazkcmo Mar 2016 #102

If the OP had said skepticscott Mar 2016 #104

You are correct. tazkcmo Mar 2016 #109

Islam has more fundamentalists hollowdweller Mar 2016 #106

That depends on how you define "Islam". DetlefK Mar 2016 #127

The fact that the majority of Muslims skepticscott Mar 2016 #176

What incredibly simplistic nonsense. guillaumeb Mar 2016 #128

Oh, do grow up. mr blur Mar 2016 #159

Your logic and reasoning ability amazes. guillaumeb Mar 2016 #168

Yes, I imagine that you're easily amazed. mr blur Mar 2016 #199

It's amusing how many people think "Ignore!" is an intellectual response. rug Mar 2016 #202

Agreed. Ignore and/or sarcasm are seen as substitutes for actual debate. guillaumeb Mar 2016 #211

people still say that with a straight face? MariaThinks Mar 2016 #164

a good analysis here Locrian Mar 2016 #204

Important and valuable information thanks for bringing it here. Leontius Mar 2016 #212

What utter twaddle skepticscott Mar 2016 #214

Well that didn't take long Leontius Mar 2016 #216

He's too busy ignoring imperialism, WW2, and the collapse of the European Empires rug Mar 2016 #217

I always found it amazing how well mules plowed with blinders on. Leontius Mar 2016 #218