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Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:18 PM Sep 2015

Why Abrasive Atheism Will Always Sell Better [View all]

September 27, 2015
by Neil Carter

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Like most thoroughgoing skeptics, I actually enjoy having my assumptions challenged. That’s how I got to be where I am in the first place. It’s how I keep myself sharp—how I keep learning new things. Since learning and discovery are essential joys in my life, intellectual stagnation is among my greatest fears, and that’s why I despise most of all the prospect of living my life in an echo chamber.

Rooting for Team Atheist

But nuanced dialogue doesn’t always sell well. Appreciated though it may be among those who are as addicted to rhetorical precision as I am, it still doesn’t draw as much attention as does the more caustic, acerbic, polemical approach of the critics of religion who paint with a much broader brush. It seems the harsher, more sweeping your diatribe, the further it goes in garnering support from the masses. That’s true of individual voices, and I’m beginning to think it’s also true of organizations. If you want folks to support your organization, come out swinging as hard as you can against religion of all kinds. That’s going to score you more money than measured, nuanced dialogue.

In case you haven’t noticed, atheists are just as prone to tribalism as are the members of any religion they oppose, and I think that has at least something to do with it. I know I’m not alone in observing that too many members of Team Atheist seem to think that deciding the correct number of gods equals zero means that everything else the human race needs in order to advance will magically fall into place, because science, I guess.

Some of this may come from an inescapable need to differentiate ourselves from our previous social context. Like adolescents going through a rebellious phase, some of the angry atheism may be a natural outworking of the individuation process. In order to wrest control of our culture from the greedy hands of religious empire, maybe a certain amount of tribalism is absolutely necessary. The celebrity worship, the groupthink, the branding, and even the merchandising may actually be necessary elements in our efforts to achieve the critical mass it takes to turn the tide of the culture wars.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/godlessindixie/2015/09/27/why-abrasive-atheism-will-always-sell-better/

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I don't think so Joe Turner Sep 2015 #1
Maybe. But Trump demonstrates that assholes sell, at least in the short run. rug Sep 2015 #2
The short run doesn't count Joe Turner Sep 2015 #3
Imagine eternity bored out of your pea picking mind... Fumesucker Sep 2015 #4
"As we age we get ever more alone" Joe Turner Sep 2015 #9
The descriptions of the afterlife in various holy books do not sound like what you mention Fumesucker Sep 2015 #25
People want to believe lots of things tkmorris Sep 2015 #26
It's instinctive to believe what your parents tell you muriel_volestrangler Sep 2015 #6
Beliefs in the supernatural goes back before recorded history Joe Turner Sep 2015 #18
Those beliefs outlived their usefulness Yorktown Oct 2015 #32
Any real evidence for that? Cartoonist Sep 2015 #7
Uhh? You must not know many people Joe Turner Sep 2015 #11
I know a lot of people Cartoonist Sep 2015 #12
I think you know a lot of people like you Joe Turner Sep 2015 #16
It's also "instinctive" to make spurious relationships. Goblinmonger Sep 2015 #8
Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #10
Because there is not a scintilla of evidence for it. edhopper Sep 2015 #13
I think knowledge of hierarchies in this universe Joe Turner Sep 2015 #15
You must be very new to the conversation Cartoonist Sep 2015 #19
Your arrogance is on full display Joe Turner Sep 2015 #21
You don't even know when you're contradicting yourself Cartoonist Sep 2015 #27
Start by defining God Yorktown Oct 2015 #33
I do believe that you don't know any atheists. Curmudgeoness Oct 2015 #37
When did I say it was? Goblinmonger Sep 2015 #14
"there is ZERO evidence for it" Joe Turner Sep 2015 #17
How does the fact that we are alive and that there is life in the universe Goblinmonger Sep 2015 #20
You need to stay on topic Joe Turner Sep 2015 #22
I am on target. Goblinmonger Sep 2015 #23
You are way off topic Joe Turner Sep 2015 #24
Allow me to retort: Goblinmonger Sep 2015 #28
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #35
It's a bummer that you got locked out of this thread Goblinmonger Oct 2015 #36
Your argument is weak and doesn't withstand scrutiny. LiberalAndProud Oct 2015 #30
I'll give Dawkins credit for one thing bluestateguy Sep 2015 #5
Read "The End of Faith" by Sam Harris Yorktown Oct 2015 #34
"Atheism" in the US anyways... MellowDem Sep 2015 #29
Atheism isn't an abrasive thing. In fact, it isn't a thing at all. It's the rejection of a thing. Freelancer Oct 2015 #31
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