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41. Critics of Nazism were bigots.

Mon May 18, 2015, 01:44 AM

May 2015

After all, who do the critics think they were to criticize and mock something followed by dozens of millions Germans. Ditto for Stalinism: Stalin was viewed favorably by 45% of the 150 millions or so Russians. Ditto for Maoism: lots of people in the countriside still revere Mao as a demi god; who are we to judge.

Next, I'm going to launch my cult religion which will involve cannibalism.
I fully expect my critics to be called bigots.
Unless some people use double standards. Which I do not think would happen here.

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Reza Aslan Made the Worst Case For Religion On The Daily Show [View all] trotsky May 2015 OP

It's the best part of religious privilege... MellowDem May 2015 #1

+1 n/t trotsky May 2015 #2

Quite a lot of posters here skepticscott May 2015 #4

Believe it or not, this got alerted on skepticscott May 2015 #12

That someone alerted is one thing edhopper May 2015 #16

I noticed that too skepticscott May 2015 #17

One of the Clan was definitely there. rug May 2015 #18

A bit of a tacky alert there, don't you think? mr blur May 2015 #19

no such thing as alert-stalking in Religion... Yorktown May 2015 #40

I love this part: beam me up scottie May 2015 #3

That sounds so very familiar. Lordquinton May 2015 #6

Equating criticism of religion with bigotry is common on both the left and right. beam me up scottie May 2015 #7

Critics of Nazism were bigots. Yorktown May 2015 #41

religion is learned cultural behavior. believers go along with their culture even tho they may msongs May 2015 #5

Isn't he they guy who claimed to be a religious scholar, but it turns out he lied about it? Lordquinton May 2015 #8

A "religious scholar"? rug May 2015 #9

This is what I was looking for Lordquinton May 2015 #13

That hardly makes him a fraud. rug May 2015 #15

There are countless anti-atheists around, your Pope, for starters Lordquinton May 2015 #22

Actually, to your chagrin, he is not an "anti-atheist". rug May 2015 #23

No, because I am adamantly against Pedophilla Lordquinton May 2015 #25

Who isn't? Do you want a medal? rug May 2015 #32

You just compared Richard Dawkins to Pedophilia Lordquinton May 2015 #34

Lol, no I compared your lame caricature to one that is significantly more accurate. rug May 2015 #35

You seem confused Lordquinton May 2015 #36

Except the only one who mentioned Dawkins was you. rug May 2015 #37

You're still confused Lordquinton May 2015 #38

Doesn't mention Dawkins. Does that description remind you of him? rug May 2015 #39

your post was very unclear Lordquinton May 2015 #44

Projection tends to cloud understanding. rug May 2015 #45

Your posts aren't making any sense. Lordquinton May 2015 #49

In a nutshell, I think you're making too many assumptions. rug May 2015 #54

I still can't figure out what you mean, please clarify Lordquinton May 2015 #71

Somebody hit somebody's nerve. rug May 2015 #10

Yeah, no tkmorris May 2015 #11

QED. rug May 2015 #14

Yes, the fact that I think his argument is ridiculous tkmorris May 2015 #24

QED squared. rug May 2015 #33

what you actually meant is "case in point". Warren Stupidity May 2015 #65

No, Warren, what I actually meant was what I actuallly typed. rug May 2015 #66

Well I tried to help you out, but keep misusing QED. It is amusing. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #67

To be precise, it was QED squared. rug May 2015 #69

which is of course meaningless if you had been using QED correctly to begin with, Warren Stupidity May 2015 #70

Warren, do you really think you're in a position to lecture anyone on the proper use of words? rug May 2015 #72

Yes. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #74

Ok. Explain your credentials then. rug May 2015 #75

Wait. You are demanding "credentials" for responses on an internet message board? Warren Stupidity May 2015 #76

In your case, yeah. rug May 2015 #77

project much? Warren Stupidity May 2015 #79

I never project. rug May 2015 #82

Agreed. I like what he said about giving credit to religion when it does good. hrmjustin May 2015 #21

Reza Aslan: the Deepak Chopra of Islam? Yorktown May 2015 #20

Score: Aslan-1 Daily Banter - 0 doxyluv13 May 2015 #26

No kidding. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #29

Reza... deathrind May 2015 #27

A rather peculiar article, and thread. LTX May 2015 #28

Do folks deride cafeteria Christians? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #30

I don't deride them, but the term itself is usually deployed derisively. LTX May 2015 #31

Indeed nil desperandum May 2015 #42

Setting aside your non sequitur, LTX May 2015 #51

It's not that Reza is wrong. gcomeau May 2015 #47

First, why would a declaration that religion is irrelevant be a problem? LTX May 2015 #52

Perhaps nil desperandum May 2015 #53

It's a problem... gcomeau May 2015 #59

So I'll just ask you for your considered opinion: LTX May 2015 #60

Lots of factors.. gcomeau May 2015 #62

Thanks. A relatively thoughtful answer. LTX May 2015 #63

That's a honest answer, but you concede irrationality Yorktown May 2015 #64

I was taught religion by non-believing parents and Catholic school. hrmjustin May 2015 #43

Actually... he's not entirely wrong. gcomeau May 2015 #46

That is a very good point. trotsky May 2015 #48

Reducing religions to mere labels with no necessary beliefs behind them renders... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #50

You Don't Believe That Cultural Identity Exists? On the Road May 2015 #55

See the post right above from Humanist_Activist. trotsky May 2015 #56

Still Don't Get the Objection On the Road May 2015 #57

Probably because there is no "objection" - it's funny that in his desperation to absolve religion... trotsky May 2015 #58

I missed that part. What did he say that led you to understand that LTX May 2015 #61

Hint: Google "Reza Aslan" trotsky May 2015 #68

I'm familiar with Aslan. I think he's generally rather superficial in his analyses. LTX May 2015 #73

Superficial, yes. Which he has to be in order to pull off stuff like this: trotsky May 2015 #80

Isn't that precisely the point made atheists and critics of religion? LTX May 2015 #81

Nope, completely the opposite. trotsky May 2015 #83

Ok, this is getting kind of odd. LTX May 2015 #84

Its not an objection, but an observation, if belief is no longer necessary for... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #78