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muriel_volestrangler

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181. "what the inference of that OP was"? I have already shown you the 'inference'

Mon Apr 27, 2015, 07:26 PM

Apr 2015

which you have completely ignored, although it was already staring you in the face.

The inference is (in big honking capitals since you've failed to read it twice already):

[font size="20"]I WOULD RATHER SOMETHING BE DONE FOR THESE POOR PEOPLE THAT IS ACTUALLY USEFUL AND CONSTRUCTIVE. THEY NEED FOOD, CLOTHING, SHELTER, MEDICAL AID.[/font]

I know that's the inference, because it's the actual content. And if you admitted that, then you'd have to admit your own OP is a strawman that you should have self-deleted several hours ago.

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Making fun of prayer is the best thing for helping the victums of the Nepal earthquake? [View all] Leontius Apr 2015 OP

They can't help themselves. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #1

Is prayer a better reaction to a catastrophe than ridiculing that prayer? DetlefK Apr 2015 #52

Your opinion not mine. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #58

Prayer isn't 'help'. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #64

Your opinion. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #85

My analysis, absent any facts to the contrary. Please explain how prayer IS "help" brooklynite Apr 2015 #92

I believe God gives us strength to get through these moments. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #95

So, God is only with you IF you pray? brooklynite Apr 2015 #96

This is a question that has been with us a long time. Why does God let bad things happen? hrmjustin Apr 2015 #97

I think the simpler answer is: there is no God to let things happen or nor... brooklynite Apr 2015 #100

Your opinion. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #120

Your opinion. Lordquinton Apr 2015 #140

That has nothing to do with prayer. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #102

Your opinion. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #121

Marbles it is. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #123

Enjoy. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #124

Justin, this post seems to say Mariana Apr 2015 #154

I pray for myself and others. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #161

Us? ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2015 #302

What point are you trying to make? hrmjustin Apr 2015 #303

That maybe they don't want or need your God to fix their problem. ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2015 #305

But I am not pfaying to god to cfix their problem. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #306

Oh lawd. ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2015 #307

I am praying for them to have strength to get through their troubles. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #308

It makes people feel better. But why should it matter to you if you just live and let live, but you demosincebirth Apr 2015 #204

I would if the kept it to themselves. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #208

You say proselytizing, I call it your paranoia. nt. demosincebirth Apr 2015 #271

Speaking of people who can't help themselves, way to bury this AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #80

I don't see it as meta but compklaining that we are being mocked for praying in gd and here. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #84

It is meta, and you know it. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #99

Amusing watching yiou think you got a holy grail. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #119

I expect hosts to enforce SOP's. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #125

You can not start ops that are meta. My post was about the mocking of prayer. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #126

SOP doesn't say anything about that being restricted to OPs. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #127

If you don't pray then you don't need to worry about the Prayer Circle. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #128

Oh no, someone is pointing out you don't obey your own rules. The horror. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #130

No what I have is someone who feels the need to hound me over a sentence that was appropriate for hrmjustin Apr 2015 #132

It's meta and you know it. Carefully tucked where no one else can safely post meta or address it. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #134

This whole subthread boils down okasha Apr 2015 #188

I have several offsite chat rooms? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #189

ooooh several. SEVERAL CHAT ROOMS Heddi Apr 2015 #192

Next theyll be sneaking into our vent server. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #193

HOld up. My 14.4k dialup can't handle this download of AWESOME Heddi Apr 2015 #194

No, it's 2014. rug Apr 2015 #218

I knew it! Heddi is the mole! AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #232

Again, why are they so obsessed with us? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #249

You're projecting, bmus. rug Apr 2015 #255

Then why do you read everything we post and complain about it in here? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #256

I read lots of things, on DU and off. rug Apr 2015 #259

Nope, just an observation about one obnoxious obsessive's behaviour. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #260

You mst have a full length one. rug Apr 2015 #261

You should retract that or you'll be defriended. rug Apr 2015 #251

I'll go through the math real slow for you Heddi Apr 2015 #253

I'll go throgh the thread real s l o w l y for you. rug Apr 2015 #262

You should clear it up with your pal Okasha Heddi Apr 2015 #268

No. It's sufficient to clear it up with you. rug Apr 2015 #273

I didn't ignore the point. I KNOW THE POINT. I MADE THE POINT by making the 2 posts. Heddi Apr 2015 #278

You;re not very good at revisionism. rug Apr 2015 #279

Oh, a thousand, thousand pardons! okasha Apr 2015 #287

Yes, Heddi. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #274

Yes, bmus. rug Apr 2015 #282

You just can't stand it, can you? - mr blur Apr 2015 #211

Dear me. All that bile bubbling up. okasha Apr 2015 #212

. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #213

Says the one standing in a puddle of their own bile. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #226

Careful! beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #248

Results... Major Nikon Apr 2015 #217

Perfect! cleanhippie Apr 2015 #225

Typical. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #246

Hold it just a sec. I strongly, STRONGLY disagree. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #224

I know, it's heartbreaking. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #245

meanwhile taking every opportunity to bring the meta into this group. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #135

I wonder if he doesn't know what meta means? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #137

Why would anyone make light of a very personal thing such as prayer? still_one Apr 2015 #2

Since thousands died, it was an irresistible opportunity to attack religion and religious people. rug Apr 2015 #23

No, it's an appropriate occasion to remind the 'prayerful' that AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #66

Bullshit. It's only "an appropriate occasion" for consolation and assistance. rug Apr 2015 #93

Prayer isn't consolation or assistance... MellowDem Apr 2015 #103

Why don't you walk down to the nearest funeral and tell them that? rug Apr 2015 #105

Im pretty sure the people knee deep in death arent busy reading DU about it right now. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #107

His advice is not limited to Nepal. rug Apr 2015 #141

Peer reviewed tests of intercessory prayer have revealed no effect, to a slight negative effect. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #144

Oh, I think your friend is asserting much more than a slight negative effect. rug Apr 2015 #146

I'd assume more as well. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #209

It is... MellowDem Apr 2015 #191

Not a good analogy... MellowDem Apr 2015 #108

Seems to fit. rug Apr 2015 #142

Of course it does to you... MellowDem Apr 2015 #190

that reminds me of a wonderful scene from "The Tillman Story". Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #138

I promise I'll say "all bullshit, he was a fucking atheist" at your funeral. rug Apr 2015 #143

I guess you are an expert on religion in nepal too. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #159

I'm not one on Tillman, remote as he is to the subject. rug Apr 2015 #162

So when you said "I seriously doubt that's a sentiment being much repeated now in Nepal." Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #166

No, what I actually said is what I actually meant, not some misshapen attempt by you to rephrase it. rug Apr 2015 #197

Not for you. Don't worry, I'll make sure to tell everyone I see not to pray for you. rug Apr 2015 #145

"Nor are prayers using tragedies to advertise personal beliefs. " Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #160

Unless you have contrary evidence, not at all. rug Apr 2015 #165

data? evidence? wtf? Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #172

As I thought. rug Apr 2015 #196

No, i would drop food, water, and the means of preparing both. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #106

I'll meet you on K2. rug Apr 2015 #147

Whatever dude. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #148

You may be shocked, but no one is trying to impress you. rug Apr 2015 #149

Well, you 'Exceeds Expectations' then. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #150

I try. rug Apr 2015 #151

Yup. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #152

Good to see you still not bragging Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #215

Good to see you've refrained from spewing any hideable right wing talking points today. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #229

Sorry to disappoint you. How do you respond to braggards who say shit like this? Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #247

Well, you found the smiley button at least. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #252

"absence of hostility and retribution" Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #258

What? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #265

What short memories we have, when convenient. Good! We're done. Enjoy! Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #285

You made noises like this once before and failed to substantiate your claims. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #286

Air dropping copies of The God Delusion would do more than prayer. Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #214

I'll make sure to drop some over Milwaukee nest earthquake. rug Apr 2015 #216

If that happens, I'll let you know how much help the prayers were. Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #219

Oh, they would know about the books. rug Apr 2015 #220

Or I can pray Dorian Gray Apr 2015 #199

Because it does bugger all to help the people that are in need... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #86

Says you.. whathehell Apr 2015 #203

But only one actually works... PoutrageFatigue Apr 2015 #290

Again..Sez you. whathehell Apr 2015 #291

Nope. PoutrageFatigue Apr 2015 #292

Yep. whathehell Apr 2015 #293

Dost mine eyes deceive me... Act_of_Reparation Apr 2015 #295

We were instructed to "Pray for Nepal." Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #205

This message was self-deleted by its author whathehell Apr 2015 #207

Yes, it is. jeff47 Apr 2015 #3

Ridiculous bait at the expense of human tragedy. bvf Apr 2015 #4

Sad to not see the same response from you in the other group Leontius Apr 2015 #7

And what did you do in the other group skepticscott Apr 2015 #10

Don't like your safe haven being breached? hrmjustin Apr 2015 #11

I notice nobody freaked out and started tipping over furniture and banning him. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #67

I am not going to maake a public judgement how other groups do their thing. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #83

No? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #131

Enjoy your day. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #133

Do you really expect consistency from him? cleanhippie Apr 2015 #227

Not exactly true now is it. Leontius Apr 2015 #153

If you don't like the room, no one's making you visit Rob H. Apr 2015 #163

Nothing wrong with the group Leontius Apr 2015 #164

Some posters are not happy about it, no. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #169

I don't care what the hosts in interfaith do they have to justify their actions to themselves Leontius Apr 2015 #173

Hahaha aaaaaahahaha if only. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #177

The contrast is not as great as you try to make it seem Leontius Apr 2015 #185

History demonstrates otherwise AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #186

He posted it there because he knew if he even dared ask the question elsewhere, Rob H. Apr 2015 #179

"what the inference of that OP was"? I have already shown you the 'inference' muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #181

Absolutely Leontius Apr 2015 #184

So why haven't you removed your strawman from your OP? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #210

Just so there is no misunderstanding on your part Leontius Apr 2015 #221

So, you are unable to read 20 point bold quotes? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #222

"Instead, you just make up you're own shit about someone's post. " cleanhippie Apr 2015 #228

And if anyone here knows about making up shit it's you Leontius Apr 2015 #235

Says the one acting like a petulant child throwing a temper-tantrum. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #289

Aw, he's not making shit up. He's just paraphrasing. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #238

MURIEL'S not the one with reading comprehension problems Rob H. Apr 2015 #223

Now let's be fair here. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #250

Why are they so obsessed with us? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #12

Now you know how I feel. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #15

I never disrupted in your group, justin. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #17

I did not mean you but I was just making the point that is how i feel when our safe havenis hrmjustin Apr 2015 #19

Then you'll have to take it up with the breachers. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #21

point taken. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #22

I'm glad I wasn't around for the previous bannings. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #25

No you never do. Always respectful. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #28

* beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #29

Thanks. She is having betterdays lately. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #30

How was asking what the OP writer had done to help disruptive or rude or a violation? Leontius Apr 2015 #26

Rhetoric. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2015 #57

*i'm told* that some people's mere presence can be disruptive. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #68

"baiting" a mere presence can be "baiting". Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #70

Consider the source Leontius Apr 2015 #157

The thread I posted in, and observed it in? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #168

No you never addressed me there Leontius Apr 2015 #182

Pointing and laughing at you, er, your sincere attempt at dialog is addressing you. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #183

This message was self-deleted by its author Leontius Apr 2015 #276

Pointing and laughing Leontius Apr 2015 #277

Of course, scottie, that's what's important, not the thousands dead. rug Apr 2015 #24

I know a good ENT guy who can help you with that, bvf Apr 2015 #20

it's not the best thing but it as good as prayer....... bowens43 Apr 2015 #5

exactly! edhopper Apr 2015 #31

We used to be allowed to award the internets for a response like this. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #54

Can we just name the poster the thread winner? edhopper Apr 2015 #61

Boy did you miss the fuckin' point Cartoonist Apr 2015 #6

I've given all I could Leontius Apr 2015 #8

Go here Cartoonist Apr 2015 #9

As I said I've given all I could one on that list and one not on it. Leontius Apr 2015 #13

So that gives you the right Cartoonist Apr 2015 #16

What have you done to help? Leontius Apr 2015 #18

What the fuck is your deal? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #69

Here's my guess: Act_of_Reparation Apr 2015 #109

You picked the right group. We're mature, we're caring, and we channel goodness. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #14

You sure want to see hatred everywhere, don't you. Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #115

Well if people want to offer a prayer without the noise we have the prayer circle. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #27

Telling people to pray for Nepal is ridiculous and condescending, in my opinion. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #32

Mocking people who pray and ask for prayer is ridiculous and condescending. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #33

Stockholm Syndrome. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #34

Oh God give me strength! hrmjustin Apr 2015 #36

Hate to break it to you, bvf Apr 2015 #38

Oh good I can finish this episode of the Golden Girls. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #40

It's also the only rational response to such a nonsensical waste of time. mr blur Apr 2015 #55

Good morning to you too. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #59

Some of the religious organizations providing aid to Nepal: LTX Apr 2015 #94

You're joking right? gcomeau Apr 2015 #111

So, who are they? LTX Apr 2015 #117

Ugh... gcomeau Apr 2015 #129

Yeah. "They" are just awful. And "they" are everywhere. LTX Apr 2015 #139

Your opinion is yours to hold and I have no argument with it Leontius Apr 2015 #35

Not to mention just plain wrong. okasha Apr 2015 #39

Oh good, backup, ready to pounce on that strawman. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #116

Find me a post that doesn't use a qualifier like 'if that's all you do, prayer is worthless'. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #72

Post 55. I suppose you'll find some kind of implied qualifier in that post, though. n/t LTX Apr 2015 #90

I read it as so, but if it is ambiguous, i suggest you ask him. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #104

I have done exactly as you have done nothing more nothing less. Leontius Apr 2015 #158

You couldn't have said it any better. bvf Apr 2015 #37

Does binke know how you feel? Leontius Apr 2015 #45

It doesn't imply any such thing... TreasonousBastard Apr 2015 #47

Understand? bvf Apr 2015 #49

the quake was god's will, he sent it. so shouldnt the faithful be grateful and honor gods will?nt msongs Apr 2015 #41

No. I believe the earthquake was plate tectonics at work, not God. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #43

.... okasha Apr 2015 #46

By all means, bvf Apr 2015 #50

I was toasting justin's highly appropriate comeback okasha Apr 2015 #122

Well, that was rude. bvf Apr 2015 #167

It was meant to be rude. okasha Apr 2015 #195

Again, bvf Apr 2015 #200

See previpus pozt. okasha Apr 2015 #206

That god has some darn good PR. It gets all of the thanks, none of the blame. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #89

Who engineered the earth such that these forces exist? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #74

God is all powerful... MellowDem Apr 2015 #113

Great way to look at the world, isn't it? bvf Apr 2015 #178

What an embarrasing post. Were I you I would self-delete it. jonno99 Apr 2015 #42

Given your apparent ignorance Leontius Apr 2015 #44

Well, I'm very sorry then - jonno99 Apr 2015 #82

Post #10 has a link Leontius Apr 2015 #155

Thanks! jonno99 Apr 2015 #156

Nope. Donating money to relief efforts is best. Iggo Apr 2015 #48

actually, praying and making fun of praying are worth about the same Skittles Apr 2015 #51

The same thing I was going to say My Good Babushka Apr 2015 #53

Well, it helps equally as well as prayer does. trotsky Apr 2015 #56

Disagree gcomeau Apr 2015 #110

Aha, good point! n/t trotsky Apr 2015 #112

Of course not. Who said or implied it was? No one. skepticscott Apr 2015 #60

Prayer is the best thing for helping the victums of the Nepal earthquake? cleanhippie Apr 2015 #62

The best thing for the victims of the Nepal Earthquake is sending resources. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #63

Making fun of others is a symptom. Take it as such and move along. cbayer Apr 2015 #65

A symptom of what, exactly? Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #71

And Scientologists...nt PassingFair Apr 2015 #288

Odd. A certain someone has, in the past, cautioned against attempting to internet diagnose people. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #75

Don't be silly. trotsky Apr 2015 #76

So you calling creationists skepticscott Apr 2015 #81

Who did that? ann--- Apr 2015 #77

It's a passive-aggressive attack on someone who, in a separate thread in another group... trotsky Apr 2015 #79

Nope nil desperandum Apr 2015 #78

my American Buddhist friend asked me to pray for her Nepali Hindu husband in Kathmandu carolinayellowdog Apr 2015 #87

So you came to this group to find "a more diverse group"...? truebrit71 Apr 2015 #88

Is criticizing the criticism of prayer the best thing for helping the victims? brooklynite Apr 2015 #91

The *best* No. gcomeau Apr 2015 #98

It is only the privilege of religion... MellowDem Apr 2015 #101

if you're objecting to an A&A thread in which you posted before starting this one muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #114

So, let's correct your OP Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #118

If that prayer is that temples from a non-Christian religion are never rebuilt, Jamastiene Apr 2015 #136

Respect HassleCat Apr 2015 #170

True and well put. Leontius Apr 2015 #174

Hmmmm. Do we need to respect various religious beliefs that treat women as 2nd class? PassingFair Apr 2015 #294

Here is what Nepalese Atheists think of efforts to pray for them. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #171

I feel sure they will refuse to allow any of the money and help supplied by those appalling Leontius Apr 2015 #175

It seems you didn't even bother to look at what they have to say. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #176

You know at the end of Toy Story when Buzz Lightyear says "Not Today!"? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #187

Some prayers are rather innocuous. I've got nothing against that. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #180

Just so believers know we have a prayer circle on DU. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #198

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #201

And meta isn't allowed. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #230

Am I not allowed to comment that we are being mocked for our prayers? hrmjustin Apr 2015 #231

It's actually really easy to keep up with the two groups I know you host. Couple posts a week. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #233

Call Amnesty International and tell them I am posting meta in the Prayer Circle. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #234

Might as well just post it here, where you can be consistent. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #236

Well I really don't understand why you are making a big deal about a room that gets... hrmjustin Apr 2015 #237

I feel the 'not a good host' thing should be self-obvious. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #239

I think if you really are concerned about my hosting behavior you should bring it to skinner. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #240

I already asked him about it, remember. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #241

If you had the courage of your convictions you would start a thread in Ata to address your recent hrmjustin Apr 2015 #242

I did. The complaint has not materially changed. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #243

Let me tell you something. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #244

No, you don't have to. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #254

I don't put up with nonsense in safe havens. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #257

I post in that room. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #263

The prayer circle is about prayer. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #264

You asked me questions. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #266

I think my conduct in the room shows I know it is about prayer. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #267

I don't know how to make my concern any more clear. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #269

Your "concern" is very clear. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #270

So, are you going to ignore it, self delete, allow meta, or find a replacement host you AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #272

My post stands and I will remain as host. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #275

bull.shit. Hosting is *not* hard & if it's so unbearable, why have you hosted for the last 3+ yrs Heddi Apr 2015 #280

. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #281

Gomer is so 2013 Heddi Apr 2015 #283

Well I haven't been on my cross for awhile so it might be awhile before I get on and get off again. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #284

Heddi is a better host than you. HTH AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #296

Ok. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #297

By the way, there's some more meta in your echo chamber. Hop to it, supermod. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #298

ok. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #299

Personally, I was fascinated to learn some people on DU are vermin, and that you wouldn't say anythi AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #300

ok. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #301

If the people afflicted by this or any other disaster gain comfort from prayer, they should pray. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #202

Prayer without good works to back it up is slacktivism. Warpy Apr 2015 #304