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Leontius

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153. Not exactly true now is it.

Mon Apr 27, 2015, 03:25 PM

Apr 2015

Some of your friends are still shitting all over themselves that I would dare ask the question in their sacred piss on theists room. .

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Making fun of prayer is the best thing for helping the victums of the Nepal earthquake? [View all] Leontius Apr 2015 OP

They can't help themselves. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #1

Is prayer a better reaction to a catastrophe than ridiculing that prayer? DetlefK Apr 2015 #52

Your opinion not mine. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #58

Prayer isn't 'help'. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #64

Your opinion. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #85

My analysis, absent any facts to the contrary. Please explain how prayer IS "help" brooklynite Apr 2015 #92

I believe God gives us strength to get through these moments. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #95

So, God is only with you IF you pray? brooklynite Apr 2015 #96

This is a question that has been with us a long time. Why does God let bad things happen? hrmjustin Apr 2015 #97

I think the simpler answer is: there is no God to let things happen or nor... brooklynite Apr 2015 #100

Your opinion. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #120

Your opinion. Lordquinton Apr 2015 #140

That has nothing to do with prayer. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #102

Your opinion. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #121

Marbles it is. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #123

Enjoy. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #124

Justin, this post seems to say Mariana Apr 2015 #154

I pray for myself and others. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #161

Us? ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2015 #302

What point are you trying to make? hrmjustin Apr 2015 #303

That maybe they don't want or need your God to fix their problem. ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2015 #305

But I am not pfaying to god to cfix their problem. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #306

Oh lawd. ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2015 #307

I am praying for them to have strength to get through their troubles. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #308

It makes people feel better. But why should it matter to you if you just live and let live, but you demosincebirth Apr 2015 #204

I would if the kept it to themselves. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #208

You say proselytizing, I call it your paranoia. nt. demosincebirth Apr 2015 #271

Speaking of people who can't help themselves, way to bury this AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #80

I don't see it as meta but compklaining that we are being mocked for praying in gd and here. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #84

It is meta, and you know it. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #99

Amusing watching yiou think you got a holy grail. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #119

I expect hosts to enforce SOP's. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #125

You can not start ops that are meta. My post was about the mocking of prayer. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #126

SOP doesn't say anything about that being restricted to OPs. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #127

If you don't pray then you don't need to worry about the Prayer Circle. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #128

Oh no, someone is pointing out you don't obey your own rules. The horror. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #130

No what I have is someone who feels the need to hound me over a sentence that was appropriate for hrmjustin Apr 2015 #132

It's meta and you know it. Carefully tucked where no one else can safely post meta or address it. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #134

This whole subthread boils down okasha Apr 2015 #188

I have several offsite chat rooms? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #189

ooooh several. SEVERAL CHAT ROOMS Heddi Apr 2015 #192

Next theyll be sneaking into our vent server. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #193

HOld up. My 14.4k dialup can't handle this download of AWESOME Heddi Apr 2015 #194

No, it's 2014. rug Apr 2015 #218

I knew it! Heddi is the mole! AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #232

Again, why are they so obsessed with us? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #249

You're projecting, bmus. rug Apr 2015 #255

Then why do you read everything we post and complain about it in here? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #256

I read lots of things, on DU and off. rug Apr 2015 #259

Nope, just an observation about one obnoxious obsessive's behaviour. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #260

You mst have a full length one. rug Apr 2015 #261

You should retract that or you'll be defriended. rug Apr 2015 #251

I'll go through the math real slow for you Heddi Apr 2015 #253

I'll go throgh the thread real s l o w l y for you. rug Apr 2015 #262

You should clear it up with your pal Okasha Heddi Apr 2015 #268

No. It's sufficient to clear it up with you. rug Apr 2015 #273

I didn't ignore the point. I KNOW THE POINT. I MADE THE POINT by making the 2 posts. Heddi Apr 2015 #278

You;re not very good at revisionism. rug Apr 2015 #279

Oh, a thousand, thousand pardons! okasha Apr 2015 #287

Yes, Heddi. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #274

Yes, bmus. rug Apr 2015 #282

You just can't stand it, can you? - mr blur Apr 2015 #211

Dear me. All that bile bubbling up. okasha Apr 2015 #212

. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #213

Says the one standing in a puddle of their own bile. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #226

Careful! beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #248

Results... Major Nikon Apr 2015 #217

Perfect! cleanhippie Apr 2015 #225

Typical. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #246

Hold it just a sec. I strongly, STRONGLY disagree. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #224

I know, it's heartbreaking. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #245

meanwhile taking every opportunity to bring the meta into this group. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #135

I wonder if he doesn't know what meta means? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #137

Why would anyone make light of a very personal thing such as prayer? still_one Apr 2015 #2

Since thousands died, it was an irresistible opportunity to attack religion and religious people. rug Apr 2015 #23

No, it's an appropriate occasion to remind the 'prayerful' that AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #66

Bullshit. It's only "an appropriate occasion" for consolation and assistance. rug Apr 2015 #93

Prayer isn't consolation or assistance... MellowDem Apr 2015 #103

Why don't you walk down to the nearest funeral and tell them that? rug Apr 2015 #105

Im pretty sure the people knee deep in death arent busy reading DU about it right now. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #107

His advice is not limited to Nepal. rug Apr 2015 #141

Peer reviewed tests of intercessory prayer have revealed no effect, to a slight negative effect. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #144

Oh, I think your friend is asserting much more than a slight negative effect. rug Apr 2015 #146

I'd assume more as well. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #209

It is... MellowDem Apr 2015 #191

Not a good analogy... MellowDem Apr 2015 #108

Seems to fit. rug Apr 2015 #142

Of course it does to you... MellowDem Apr 2015 #190

that reminds me of a wonderful scene from "The Tillman Story". Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #138

I promise I'll say "all bullshit, he was a fucking atheist" at your funeral. rug Apr 2015 #143

I guess you are an expert on religion in nepal too. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #159

I'm not one on Tillman, remote as he is to the subject. rug Apr 2015 #162

So when you said "I seriously doubt that's a sentiment being much repeated now in Nepal." Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #166

No, what I actually said is what I actually meant, not some misshapen attempt by you to rephrase it. rug Apr 2015 #197

Not for you. Don't worry, I'll make sure to tell everyone I see not to pray for you. rug Apr 2015 #145

"Nor are prayers using tragedies to advertise personal beliefs. " Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #160

Unless you have contrary evidence, not at all. rug Apr 2015 #165

data? evidence? wtf? Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #172

As I thought. rug Apr 2015 #196

No, i would drop food, water, and the means of preparing both. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #106

I'll meet you on K2. rug Apr 2015 #147

Whatever dude. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #148

You may be shocked, but no one is trying to impress you. rug Apr 2015 #149

Well, you 'Exceeds Expectations' then. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #150

I try. rug Apr 2015 #151

Yup. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #152

Good to see you still not bragging Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #215

Good to see you've refrained from spewing any hideable right wing talking points today. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #229

Sorry to disappoint you. How do you respond to braggards who say shit like this? Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #247

Well, you found the smiley button at least. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #252

"absence of hostility and retribution" Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #258

What? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #265

What short memories we have, when convenient. Good! We're done. Enjoy! Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #285

You made noises like this once before and failed to substantiate your claims. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #286

Air dropping copies of The God Delusion would do more than prayer. Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #214

I'll make sure to drop some over Milwaukee nest earthquake. rug Apr 2015 #216

If that happens, I'll let you know how much help the prayers were. Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #219

Oh, they would know about the books. rug Apr 2015 #220

Or I can pray Dorian Gray Apr 2015 #199

Because it does bugger all to help the people that are in need... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #86

Says you.. whathehell Apr 2015 #203

But only one actually works... PoutrageFatigue Apr 2015 #290

Again..Sez you. whathehell Apr 2015 #291

Nope. PoutrageFatigue Apr 2015 #292

Yep. whathehell Apr 2015 #293

Dost mine eyes deceive me... Act_of_Reparation Apr 2015 #295

We were instructed to "Pray for Nepal." Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #205

This message was self-deleted by its author whathehell Apr 2015 #207

Yes, it is. jeff47 Apr 2015 #3

Ridiculous bait at the expense of human tragedy. bvf Apr 2015 #4

Sad to not see the same response from you in the other group Leontius Apr 2015 #7

And what did you do in the other group skepticscott Apr 2015 #10

Don't like your safe haven being breached? hrmjustin Apr 2015 #11

I notice nobody freaked out and started tipping over furniture and banning him. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #67

I am not going to maake a public judgement how other groups do their thing. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #83

No? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #131

Enjoy your day. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #133

Do you really expect consistency from him? cleanhippie Apr 2015 #227

Not exactly true now is it. Leontius Apr 2015 #153

If you don't like the room, no one's making you visit Rob H. Apr 2015 #163

Nothing wrong with the group Leontius Apr 2015 #164

Some posters are not happy about it, no. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #169

I don't care what the hosts in interfaith do they have to justify their actions to themselves Leontius Apr 2015 #173

Hahaha aaaaaahahaha if only. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #177

The contrast is not as great as you try to make it seem Leontius Apr 2015 #185

History demonstrates otherwise AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #186

He posted it there because he knew if he even dared ask the question elsewhere, Rob H. Apr 2015 #179

"what the inference of that OP was"? I have already shown you the 'inference' muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #181

Absolutely Leontius Apr 2015 #184

So why haven't you removed your strawman from your OP? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #210

Just so there is no misunderstanding on your part Leontius Apr 2015 #221

So, you are unable to read 20 point bold quotes? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #222

"Instead, you just make up you're own shit about someone's post. " cleanhippie Apr 2015 #228

And if anyone here knows about making up shit it's you Leontius Apr 2015 #235

Says the one acting like a petulant child throwing a temper-tantrum. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #289

Aw, he's not making shit up. He's just paraphrasing. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #238

MURIEL'S not the one with reading comprehension problems Rob H. Apr 2015 #223

Now let's be fair here. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #250

Why are they so obsessed with us? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #12

Now you know how I feel. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #15

I never disrupted in your group, justin. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #17

I did not mean you but I was just making the point that is how i feel when our safe havenis hrmjustin Apr 2015 #19

Then you'll have to take it up with the breachers. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #21

point taken. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #22

I'm glad I wasn't around for the previous bannings. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #25

No you never do. Always respectful. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #28

* beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #29

Thanks. She is having betterdays lately. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #30

How was asking what the OP writer had done to help disruptive or rude or a violation? Leontius Apr 2015 #26

Rhetoric. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2015 #57

*i'm told* that some people's mere presence can be disruptive. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #68

"baiting" a mere presence can be "baiting". Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #70

Consider the source Leontius Apr 2015 #157

The thread I posted in, and observed it in? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #168

No you never addressed me there Leontius Apr 2015 #182

Pointing and laughing at you, er, your sincere attempt at dialog is addressing you. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #183

This message was self-deleted by its author Leontius Apr 2015 #276

Pointing and laughing Leontius Apr 2015 #277

Of course, scottie, that's what's important, not the thousands dead. rug Apr 2015 #24

I know a good ENT guy who can help you with that, bvf Apr 2015 #20

it's not the best thing but it as good as prayer....... bowens43 Apr 2015 #5

exactly! edhopper Apr 2015 #31

We used to be allowed to award the internets for a response like this. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #54

Can we just name the poster the thread winner? edhopper Apr 2015 #61

Boy did you miss the fuckin' point Cartoonist Apr 2015 #6

I've given all I could Leontius Apr 2015 #8

Go here Cartoonist Apr 2015 #9

As I said I've given all I could one on that list and one not on it. Leontius Apr 2015 #13

So that gives you the right Cartoonist Apr 2015 #16

What have you done to help? Leontius Apr 2015 #18

What the fuck is your deal? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #69

Here's my guess: Act_of_Reparation Apr 2015 #109

You picked the right group. We're mature, we're caring, and we channel goodness. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #14

You sure want to see hatred everywhere, don't you. Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #115

Well if people want to offer a prayer without the noise we have the prayer circle. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #27

Telling people to pray for Nepal is ridiculous and condescending, in my opinion. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #32

Mocking people who pray and ask for prayer is ridiculous and condescending. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #33

Stockholm Syndrome. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #34

Oh God give me strength! hrmjustin Apr 2015 #36

Hate to break it to you, bvf Apr 2015 #38

Oh good I can finish this episode of the Golden Girls. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #40

It's also the only rational response to such a nonsensical waste of time. mr blur Apr 2015 #55

Good morning to you too. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #59

Some of the religious organizations providing aid to Nepal: LTX Apr 2015 #94

You're joking right? gcomeau Apr 2015 #111

So, who are they? LTX Apr 2015 #117

Ugh... gcomeau Apr 2015 #129

Yeah. "They" are just awful. And "they" are everywhere. LTX Apr 2015 #139

Your opinion is yours to hold and I have no argument with it Leontius Apr 2015 #35

Not to mention just plain wrong. okasha Apr 2015 #39

Oh good, backup, ready to pounce on that strawman. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #116

Find me a post that doesn't use a qualifier like 'if that's all you do, prayer is worthless'. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #72

Post 55. I suppose you'll find some kind of implied qualifier in that post, though. n/t LTX Apr 2015 #90

I read it as so, but if it is ambiguous, i suggest you ask him. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #104

I have done exactly as you have done nothing more nothing less. Leontius Apr 2015 #158

You couldn't have said it any better. bvf Apr 2015 #37

Does binke know how you feel? Leontius Apr 2015 #45

It doesn't imply any such thing... TreasonousBastard Apr 2015 #47

Understand? bvf Apr 2015 #49

the quake was god's will, he sent it. so shouldnt the faithful be grateful and honor gods will?nt msongs Apr 2015 #41

No. I believe the earthquake was plate tectonics at work, not God. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #43

.... okasha Apr 2015 #46

By all means, bvf Apr 2015 #50

I was toasting justin's highly appropriate comeback okasha Apr 2015 #122

Well, that was rude. bvf Apr 2015 #167

It was meant to be rude. okasha Apr 2015 #195

Again, bvf Apr 2015 #200

See previpus pozt. okasha Apr 2015 #206

That god has some darn good PR. It gets all of the thanks, none of the blame. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #89

Who engineered the earth such that these forces exist? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #74

God is all powerful... MellowDem Apr 2015 #113

Great way to look at the world, isn't it? bvf Apr 2015 #178

What an embarrasing post. Were I you I would self-delete it. jonno99 Apr 2015 #42

Given your apparent ignorance Leontius Apr 2015 #44

Well, I'm very sorry then - jonno99 Apr 2015 #82

Post #10 has a link Leontius Apr 2015 #155

Thanks! jonno99 Apr 2015 #156

Nope. Donating money to relief efforts is best. Iggo Apr 2015 #48

actually, praying and making fun of praying are worth about the same Skittles Apr 2015 #51

The same thing I was going to say My Good Babushka Apr 2015 #53

Well, it helps equally as well as prayer does. trotsky Apr 2015 #56

Disagree gcomeau Apr 2015 #110

Aha, good point! n/t trotsky Apr 2015 #112

Of course not. Who said or implied it was? No one. skepticscott Apr 2015 #60

Prayer is the best thing for helping the victums of the Nepal earthquake? cleanhippie Apr 2015 #62

The best thing for the victims of the Nepal Earthquake is sending resources. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #63

Making fun of others is a symptom. Take it as such and move along. cbayer Apr 2015 #65

A symptom of what, exactly? Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #71

And Scientologists...nt PassingFair Apr 2015 #288

Odd. A certain someone has, in the past, cautioned against attempting to internet diagnose people. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #75

Don't be silly. trotsky Apr 2015 #76

So you calling creationists skepticscott Apr 2015 #81

Who did that? ann--- Apr 2015 #77

It's a passive-aggressive attack on someone who, in a separate thread in another group... trotsky Apr 2015 #79

Nope nil desperandum Apr 2015 #78

my American Buddhist friend asked me to pray for her Nepali Hindu husband in Kathmandu carolinayellowdog Apr 2015 #87

So you came to this group to find "a more diverse group"...? truebrit71 Apr 2015 #88

Is criticizing the criticism of prayer the best thing for helping the victims? brooklynite Apr 2015 #91

The *best* No. gcomeau Apr 2015 #98

It is only the privilege of religion... MellowDem Apr 2015 #101

if you're objecting to an A&A thread in which you posted before starting this one muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #114

So, let's correct your OP Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #118

If that prayer is that temples from a non-Christian religion are never rebuilt, Jamastiene Apr 2015 #136

Respect HassleCat Apr 2015 #170

True and well put. Leontius Apr 2015 #174

Hmmmm. Do we need to respect various religious beliefs that treat women as 2nd class? PassingFair Apr 2015 #294

Here is what Nepalese Atheists think of efforts to pray for them. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #171

I feel sure they will refuse to allow any of the money and help supplied by those appalling Leontius Apr 2015 #175

It seems you didn't even bother to look at what they have to say. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #176

You know at the end of Toy Story when Buzz Lightyear says "Not Today!"? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #187

Some prayers are rather innocuous. I've got nothing against that. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #180

Just so believers know we have a prayer circle on DU. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #198

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #201

And meta isn't allowed. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #230

Am I not allowed to comment that we are being mocked for our prayers? hrmjustin Apr 2015 #231

It's actually really easy to keep up with the two groups I know you host. Couple posts a week. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #233

Call Amnesty International and tell them I am posting meta in the Prayer Circle. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #234

Might as well just post it here, where you can be consistent. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #236

Well I really don't understand why you are making a big deal about a room that gets... hrmjustin Apr 2015 #237

I feel the 'not a good host' thing should be self-obvious. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #239

I think if you really are concerned about my hosting behavior you should bring it to skinner. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #240

I already asked him about it, remember. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #241

If you had the courage of your convictions you would start a thread in Ata to address your recent hrmjustin Apr 2015 #242

I did. The complaint has not materially changed. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #243

Let me tell you something. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #244

No, you don't have to. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #254

I don't put up with nonsense in safe havens. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #257

I post in that room. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #263

The prayer circle is about prayer. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #264

You asked me questions. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #266

I think my conduct in the room shows I know it is about prayer. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #267

I don't know how to make my concern any more clear. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #269

Your "concern" is very clear. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #270

So, are you going to ignore it, self delete, allow meta, or find a replacement host you AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #272

My post stands and I will remain as host. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #275

bull.shit. Hosting is *not* hard & if it's so unbearable, why have you hosted for the last 3+ yrs Heddi Apr 2015 #280

. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #281

Gomer is so 2013 Heddi Apr 2015 #283

Well I haven't been on my cross for awhile so it might be awhile before I get on and get off again. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #284

Heddi is a better host than you. HTH AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #296

Ok. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #297

By the way, there's some more meta in your echo chamber. Hop to it, supermod. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #298

ok. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #299

Personally, I was fascinated to learn some people on DU are vermin, and that you wouldn't say anythi AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #300

ok. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #301

If the people afflicted by this or any other disaster gain comfort from prayer, they should pray. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #202

Prayer without good works to back it up is slacktivism. Warpy Apr 2015 #304