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(82,333 posts) Sun Apr 5, 2015, 05:26 PM Apr 2015

A familiar, and very old, observation. [View all]

1 Corinthians 15

17 If Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in your sins.
18 Then those also who have died in Christ have perished.
19 If for this life only we have hoped in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied.

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A familiar, and very old, observation. [View all] rug Apr 2015 OP

Jesus died for your sins, not mine. Cartoonist Apr 2015 #1

That is either an idiosyncratic thought or you have none. rug Apr 2015 #2

Hi, pot Cartoonist Apr 2015 #3

No, that is mainstream Christian theology. rug Apr 2015 #4

So quoting a centuries old book Cartoonist Apr 2015 #7

No. The idiosyncracy was the reslt of your misunderstanding of the subject. rug Apr 2015 #10

you are still in your sins. Cartoonist Apr 2015 #19

And you are . . . . ? rug Apr 2015 #20

In contrast, bvf Apr 2015 #5

Glad you agree. rug Apr 2015 #6

Paul was a bigot. Cartoonist Apr 2015 #8

Name-calling and labeling closes a bigot's mind the fastest. rug Apr 2015 #11

Know ye, Paul was a bigot. Cartoonist Apr 2015 #18

I don't think you know what bigotry is. rug Apr 2015 #21

Jesus Cartoonist Apr 2015 #22

Yes he did speak to that effect. But that particular phrase is attributed to Peter. rug Apr 2015 #29

Has humanity changed that much? Cartoonist Apr 2015 #32

I don't think so. rug Apr 2015 #35

The downtrodden Cartoonist Apr 2015 #38

Well, I don't think you'll find that the oppressed are free of bigotry becase they're oppressed. rug Apr 2015 #39

White Southern sharecroppers? okasha Apr 2015 #45

Wrong century nt Cartoonist Apr 2015 #53

Women and gay people were subjected to discrimination, even by the poor, in the first centry CE. rug Apr 2015 #54

How are the more recent downtrodden and oppressed okasha Apr 2015 #60

Like I said earlier Cartoonist Apr 2015 #69

You're right, but that doesn't respond to the question. okasha Apr 2015 #73

Your question? Cartoonist Apr 2015 #81

"Right field?" okasha Apr 2015 #85

. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #86

Well, bvf Apr 2015 #9

You can call it what you like but I'd have my observation skills calibrated first. rug Apr 2015 #12

That is either an idiosyncratic thought or you have none. bvf Apr 2015 #13

No, it's dismay at your equating it to zombies and expecting credence. rug Apr 2015 #14

If you believe phil89 Apr 2015 #15

Sorry, your judgment of morality doesn't hold much water. rug Apr 2015 #23

A zombie is a corpse revived by a supernatural power. bvf Apr 2015 #17

You know as little about zombies as you do theology. rug Apr 2015 #25

Still haven't found a dictionary, I see. bvf Apr 2015 #33

Ah, ad hominems! I acept your surrender. rug Apr 2015 #34

Your complete disinterest bvf Apr 2015 #41

Lol! Kudos on two blunders in one sentence. rug Apr 2015 #42

I missed you. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #43

Same here friend. rug Apr 2015 #44

You are so much better at arguing then I am. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #46

I did, too. okasha Apr 2015 #47

I'm scanning some of the old threads. rug Apr 2015 #49

You did a great job. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #50

Thanks to you both, but it was in a small way. okasha Apr 2015 #70

some of our friends in here either have me on ignore or have chosen not to respond to me anymore. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #72

There are a couple who get pretty quiet okasha Apr 2015 #75

Yes that is true. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #77

Do you only read comic books? bvf Apr 2015 #51

As soon as you learn the difference between a zombie, an avatar, a unicorn and a Messiah. rug Apr 2015 #52

Educate me on the difference, then. bvf Apr 2015 #55

"crack a god-damned reference book or two, for crying out loud." rug Apr 2015 #58

So in other words, bvf Apr 2015 #62

We don't as Christians call him a Zombie and find it offensive to call him such. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #63

You find other religions offensive? bvf Apr 2015 #67

No but calling Jesus a Zombie is offensive. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #68

Look up the word "zombie" and explain to me bvf Apr 2015 #83

I know what the definition is and I can tell you the modern walking dead definition comes to mind. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #84

I think you're making the same mistake bvf Apr 2015 #87

That maybe true about the definition but it is still offensive. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #88

Save yourself the trouble. Vodou won't rescue your from your flailing. rug Apr 2015 #71

Excuse me? bvf Apr 2015 #82

No, let's stick to my actual words. Try again. rug Apr 2015 #66

"A zombie is a corpse revived by a supernatural power." bvf Apr 2015 #74

Simple. You haven't demonstrated the accuracy of your definition. rug Apr 2015 #76

You're the one who said you didn't need a dictionary. bvf Apr 2015 #79

But indeed the tomb is empty! hrmjustin Apr 2015 #16

I like what precedes and follows that passage. rug Apr 2015 #26

On the ressurection? hrmjustin Apr 2015 #28

Yes. And on faith in the Resurrection. rug Apr 2015 #30

Just read it and yes it is. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #31

Yes, it is. Faith can be very real and also futile. Sound and fury as the writer said. pinto Apr 2015 #24

He lays out the heart of it right there. rug Apr 2015 #27

I find it suggestive that Paul was in an argument over whether the dead are raised, Htom Sirveaux Apr 2015 #36

I'm not following you. If he was resurrected the tombe would be empty, mention or no. rug Apr 2015 #37

But according to the gospels, the tomb was an identifiable place. Htom Sirveaux Apr 2015 #40

That's an interesting point. rug Apr 2015 #48

Thing is, we don't know what Paul knew. okasha Apr 2015 #56

In fact Paul did not seem to know much about Jesus' life at all. longship Apr 2015 #64

he didn't edhopper Apr 2015 #57

I don't do haiku. rug Apr 2015 #59

your OP was a series of questions edhopper Apr 2015 #61

You should have kept reading the passage. rug Apr 2015 #65

thank you for taken care of all that edhopper Apr 2015 #78

Your last sentence reminds me of a joke. rug Apr 2015 #80

that's juth thilly. edhopper Apr 2015 #89