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cleanhippie

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6. Well, for me...

Reply to hlthe2b (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 8, 2012, 12:26 PM

Apr 2012

It is the total and complete lack of any extra-biblical reference or mention of this jesus fellow. Every account of him comes directly from, or uses as a reference, the bible. And considering how, as an historical document, just how wrong the bible is...

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The Jesus debate: Man vs. myth [View all] cleanhippie Apr 2012 OP

One thing to consider when discussing "historic Jesus".... Swamp Lover Apr 2012 #1

Another thing to consider when discussing "historic jesus..." cleanhippie Apr 2012 #3

By "extra-biblical", do you also include the Qu'ran? cordelia Apr 2012 #7

It was written 600 years after Jesus supposedly lived. stopbush Apr 2012 #21

So if there is no known Roman record it can't have happened? Leontius Apr 2012 #8

Of course not. But it's more risible to treat the Bible as if it contains any actual history stopbush Apr 2012 #23

Sometimes early Christians were persecuted skepticscott Apr 2012 #5

Good, balanced article. rug Apr 2012 #2

I can certainly understand why one would not believe all the supernatural religious aspects.... hlthe2b Apr 2012 #4

Well, for me... cleanhippie Apr 2012 #6

One could say that, again using my ancient Greek example-- of all that documented in Herotodus... hlthe2b Apr 2012 #9

It is my understanding... cleanhippie Apr 2012 #10

As has already been mentioned, the Qu'ran mentions Jesus hlthe2b Apr 2012 #11

When was that written? cleanhippie Apr 2012 #12

wow... so nearly all the "major religions" were in cahoots? hlthe2b Apr 2012 #14

Cahoots? Not quite the way I characterized it, now is it? cleanhippie Apr 2012 #16

Kindly respond to the rest. "cahoots" is merely term to cover your suggestion they all plagiarized hlthe2b Apr 2012 #17

Fair enough. cleanhippie Apr 2012 #18

Mohammad blatantly plagarized Judaism and Christianity. provis99 Apr 2012 #25

No, they all borrowed from the same sources. nt mr blur Apr 2012 #28

I used to sing with a devout Jew who told me he had no problems with radical Xian fundamentalists stopbush Apr 2012 #30

It was written around 630 CE, ie: six centuries after Jesus supposedly lived. stopbush Apr 2012 #20

My point exactly. cleanhippie Apr 2012 #22

To be fair about the Romans DonCoquixote Apr 2012 #13

Fair enough. cleanhippie Apr 2012 #15

Flavius Josephus had access to Roman archives... onager Apr 2012 #19

well, the Exodus stuff was pretty much made up. provis99 Apr 2012 #26

The portrayal of the Egyptians in the OT is nothing short of overt racism. stopbush Apr 2012 #29

But nobody avers that Aristolte, Socrates or Plato were godsor godmen. That belief is stopbush Apr 2012 #24

Excellent point! nt mr blur Apr 2012 #27

And I ask.. while it is understandable to question the myriad of stories attributed to Jesus... hlthe2b Apr 2012 #31

Why not believe that Rhett Butler was a real person, or Harry Potter? What harm does it do stopbush Apr 2012 #32

Harry Potter isn't real?! :-( nt Joseph8th Apr 2012 #33

re: "Christianity is and always has been a political movement, not a spiritual movement. " hlthe2b Apr 2012 #34

Christianity set up its own form of government and taxation. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #35

Again, that does not make the previous comment any less hyperbolic hlthe2b Apr 2012 #36

Your concern is noted. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #37