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merrily

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55. I don't know the answer to your question, but it reminds me of something I've wondered.
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 02:17 PM
Feb 2015

I am not a Biblical expert, nor can I compare one translation with another. However, I do know this: nowhere in the King James Version do the words that come out of the mouth of Jesus say, "I am the Son of God." He calls God his father, but he does not say he (Jesus) is the only child of God. He refers to himself as the Son of Man.

At times, he seems to be evading the issue, as when a disciple tells him people are saying he is the Son of God and he responds, "Who do you say I am?" But, he never flat out says he is the son of God.

In Arabic and, I believe Hebrew as well, one way to say "human being" as a species in common conversation is to refer to the offspring of Adam. But the New Testament was not translated from the either of those languages, but from the Greek.

So, given all the above, I wonder if "Son of Man" was not just another way of saying "human being."





More BS for the gullible Cartoonist Feb 2015 #1
Are you comparing homosexality to leprosy? rug Feb 2015 #8
You are Cartoonist Feb 2015 #20
Those are your words, Cartoonist. Own them. rug Feb 2015 #21
You own them Cartoonist Feb 2015 #31
Bullshit. It's your comparison. The sermon was about leprosy, not "fishes and loaves". rug Feb 2015 #36
Cartoonist's post was about the superpope's two-facedness. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #37
Have you appointed yourself interpreter of awkward posts? rug Feb 2015 #38
Just trying to help because you obviously missed it. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #40
Help the next poster who brings up homosexuality in a thread about leprosy. rug Feb 2015 #41
Look REAL HARD at the subject line. I'll wait. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #42
It wasn't abot gay people either. rug Feb 2015 #46
PREJUDICED MENTALITY. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #47
There are all kinds of PREJDICED MENTALITY !!1!!1! rug Feb 2015 #48
I read it. That's why your attempt to deflect on the homosexuality issue with 'lepers' is pathetic. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #49
Is that a promise? rug Feb 2015 #50
It is. That issue was a valid topic of the article. You smeared him with that comparison. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #51
You just broke it. rug Feb 2015 #52
Nope. You had your chance. Goodbye. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #53
Adieu. rug Feb 2015 #54
I' sure you're absolutely crushed. okasha Feb 2015 #63
. . . . it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known . . . . rug Feb 2015 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author Cartoonist Feb 2015 #43
The Opinion Post speaks of "all" who are marginalized by the Church Brettongarcia Feb 2015 #85
This Pope reminds me very much of President Obama. Htom Sirveaux Feb 2015 #2
Interesting analysis. cbayer Feb 2015 #6
I disagree--so far, Francis is proving to be the more inspiring leader DerekG Feb 2015 #45
What's always bothered me bvf Feb 2015 #3
What's always bothered ME Cartoonist Feb 2015 #4
Depends on what "Son of God" means, doesn't it? Htom Sirveaux Feb 2015 #5
That would have been asking for bvf Feb 2015 #32
I don't know the answer to your question, but it reminds me of something I've wondered. merrily Feb 2015 #55
Here's some nonsense for you Cartoonist Feb 2015 #57
What do you think that statement means? cbayer Feb 2015 #58
A possible claim of deity, yes. merrily Feb 2015 #59
The most logical explanation seems to be that he is cbayer Feb 2015 #60
I don't know. I know only that there is more than one possible interpretation. merrily Feb 2015 #62
Good points. That is why I find literalism so very objectionable. cbayer Feb 2015 #64
Point was, one is not supposed to converse in a library. merrily Feb 2015 #65
Well, I like the quiet as well, but all that paper makes me sneeze. cbayer Feb 2015 #66
I think he may well have been preaching, in context, a sense of universality. "I am the son of man" pinto Feb 2015 #61
If one takes these stories literally, then I can see why one cbayer Feb 2015 #10
What a ridiculous question. bvf Feb 2015 #11
But are you one of them, because many millions don't. cbayer Feb 2015 #12
Do you think Santa Claus bvf Feb 2015 #13
What's always bothered me cbayer Feb 2015 #14
Do you believe in Santa Claus? bvf Feb 2015 #16
No, do you? cbayer Feb 2015 #17
For your edification. bvf Feb 2015 #23
Yes, dear bvf. I was mocking your response to make a point. cbayer Feb 2015 #24
You just can't keep true to your word, can you? bvf Feb 2015 #25
Of course I can't! You've read the book, I am sure. cbayer Feb 2015 #26
Repeat as necessary. bvf Feb 2015 #33
Obviously okasha Feb 2015 #18
Literalists are killing us... cbayer Feb 2015 #19
Why take anything in the bible literally then? Major Nikon Feb 2015 #75
Why indeed? cbayer Feb 2015 #78
I reckon there's lots of reasons Major Nikon Feb 2015 #80
Not necessary for you to put any stock in them at all. cbayer Feb 2015 #81
You are correct Major Nikon Feb 2015 #82
If fundies believe in talking donkeys and people that live to 900, cbayer Feb 2015 #83
He was speaking about today's Gospel. rug Feb 2015 #7
jesus had the cure and chose not to give it away freely in the name of love...or any other reason nt msongs Feb 2015 #9
Do you know of any incident in the New Testament where he refused anyone? rug Feb 2015 #15
As if the New Testament is a reliable source? phil89 Feb 2015 #27
So, the answer is "no". rug Feb 2015 #28
Way to miss the point. phil89 Feb 2015 #76
the New Testament is a reliable as any documents prior to the Linen paper happyslug Feb 2015 #34
Wrong. okasha Feb 2015 #22
And, it did nothing. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #39
For Jesus did NOT want to be known for his miracles but for his message. happyslug Feb 2015 #29
His messages phil89 Feb 2015 #77
Feel free to ignore all of them. cbayer Feb 2015 #79
Here is the whole Homily, it is to the New Cardinals of the Church. happyslug Feb 2015 #30
"must be open and welcoming, whatever the cost"? skepticscott Feb 2015 #35
Two words: Greg Burke. n/t. bvf Feb 2015 #44
What has a National League Pitcher have to do with this thread? happyslug Feb 2015 #71
Seriously. bvf Feb 2015 #72
Some of us get our news from the net, and the ball player came up first happyslug Feb 2015 #73
When I plugged "Greg Burke" into Google, it returned the journalist first. n/t trotsky Feb 2015 #74
Good talk. bvf Feb 2015 #84
What was this Pope doing in Slovakia? No seriously, he's directly contradicting himself here... Humanist_Activist Feb 2015 #56
He wasn't in Slovakia. okasha Feb 2015 #68
Good point, but I was talking about his endorsement of the failed... Humanist_Activist Feb 2015 #69
You'll find there won't be many takers on that subject. trotsky Feb 2015 #70
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