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Cartoonist

(7,317 posts)
5. I'm calling BS on the Pope
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 02:34 PM
Jan 2015

If he means what he says, then he has to revise the Bible. He at least has to address these quotes from the Bible. He has to say the Bible has flaws. He has to say the Bible is not the "word of God" but the word of men.

Leviticus 25:44-46
As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.

Exodus 21:20-21
“When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money.

Ephesians 6:5
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ,

Colossians 4:1
Masters, treat your slaves justly and fairly, knowing that you also have a Master in heaven.

Titus 2 -10
Slaves are to be submissive to their own masters in everything; they are to be well-pleasing, not argumentative, not pilfering, but showing all good faith, so that in everything they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior.

Exodus 21:1-36
“Now these are the rules that you shall set before them. When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing. If he comes in single, he shall go out single; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out alone. But if the slave plainly says, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free,’

Colossians 3:22
Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord.

Excellent choice of 2015 priority cbayer Jan 2015 #1
Me too. rug Jan 2015 #2
Those uniforms could cause one to die cbayer Jan 2015 #3
Here's a list of their weapons TexasProgresive Jan 2015 #6
Thanks for that. I was just teasing them. cbayer Jan 2015 #8
I've read that some of the classic clown attire in the European tradition were from the same period. pinto Jan 2015 #4
Is this an excellent choice too? "Pope says same-sex marriage threatens family" cleanhippie Jan 2015 #84
I'm calling BS on the Pope Cartoonist Jan 2015 #5
Calling BS on the Pope? cbayer Jan 2015 #7
literalists Cartoonist Jan 2015 #10
That does not define a literalist at all. cbayer Jan 2015 #14
The Pope is a Catholic. Catholics, unlike fundamentalists and evangelicals, aren't literalists. pnwmom Jan 2015 #61
"Taking a stand against slavery and human trafficking is a very good and very christian thing to do" cleanhippie Jan 2015 #85
Oh Lord help me! hrmjustin Jan 2015 #9
Keep praying Cartoonist Jan 2015 #11
I have no desire to run you out of here. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #12
Do you agree or disagree with the Bible? Cartoonist Jan 2015 #13
Yes I believe in the bible but I don't believe everything is literal. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #15
He appears to be a literalist and unable to see the contradictions or cbayer Jan 2015 #18
Agreed! This line of argument is ridiculous imo. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #19
What is your evidence for that? The Catholic Church does not teach a literalist view of the Bible. pnwmom Jan 2015 #62
I think you may have misunderstood. I was speaking of cartoonist, not the pope. cbayer Jan 2015 #64
So those quotes don't bother you in the least? Cartoonist Jan 2015 #20
They were the cultural values of the time. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #21
So we're on the same page Cartoonist Jan 2015 #23
I have no links to give you. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #24
At the same time Cartoonist Jan 2015 #26
I don't attend those churches but yes I detest thst they use those verses. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #27
Common Ground Cartoonist Jan 2015 #30
You said the pope had to revise the bible. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #32
Some one should Cartoonist Jan 2015 #38
That is not possible. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #40
Why not? Cartoonist Jan 2015 #42
You can not touch the scriptures. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #43
That's why atheists like myself have no respect for religion Cartoonist Jan 2015 #45
Would you respect religion is the scriptures were changed? hrmjustin Jan 2015 #48
It would go up a notch Cartoonist Jan 2015 #52
Many believers love science and are scientists. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #54
And your particularly dogmatic and rigid position may be cbayer Jan 2015 #50
"the scriptures" have been touched repeatedly over the last 2500 years or so. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #56
No. I am not changing the scriptures. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #58
They have not. okasha Jan 2015 #53
Wasn't there just a thread recently about this? Cartoonist Jan 2015 #59
No. okasha Jan 2015 #66
Did Jesus free the Gays? Cartoonist Jan 2015 #68
First century CE gays didn't need freeing. okasha Jan 2015 #73
Oh Hai Okasha Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #81
Oh, hai Warren. okasha Jan 2015 #82
Again accusing me of copping out, when I clearly have not. cbayer Jan 2015 #39
Making up data destroys your argument. cbayer Jan 2015 #37
The pope disagrees with that assessment Cartoonist Jan 2015 #41
Hey, check this out. cbayer Jan 2015 #46
To the contrary: on the subject of gay people, Pope Francis said: "Who am I to judge?" pnwmom Jan 2015 #67
I guess you missed the backtracking. nt Cartoonist Jan 2015 #70
He didn't backtrack. The paper produced for the Synod said gay people should be welcomed into pnwmom Jan 2015 #72
pnwoman was good enough to provide a direct source. Can you provide one for the "backtracking". cbayer Jan 2015 #76
Here's a post by somebodt named cbayer Cartoonist Jan 2015 #80
Well played….. to a point. cbayer Jan 2015 #83
Religious leaders have said this over and over again. You must have missed it. cbayer Jan 2015 #31
Cop out Cartoonist Jan 2015 #35
Oh, they probably didn't get your memo that they were supposed to say something about the cbayer Jan 2015 #44
The Church teaches that you can't take individual sentences out of context and rely on them to be pnwmom Jan 2015 #65
From the article cited in the OP - pinto Jan 2015 #77
I neither copped out nor said "never mind". cbayer Jan 2015 #16
You read that line literally. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #22
One of the most amusing things about you is how you think I am stupid. cbayer Jan 2015 #25
I have no idea who HR is. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #28
You are a literalist. If you think that incorporating historical context when reading the cbayer Jan 2015 #33
Let me diagram it for you. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #36
Ah, is that what you meant? You meant to dismiss both of us. cbayer Jan 2015 #47
Now you got it. nt Cartoonist Jan 2015 #49
Well, how did that work out for you? cbayer Jan 2015 #51
You still can't counter it. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #55
Can't counter what? cbayer Jan 2015 #57
Is there anything in the bible Cartoonist Jan 2015 #60
Of course it doesn't need a deity. cbayer Jan 2015 #63
0-7 Leave It Bryce Butler Jan 2015 #78
. libodem Jan 2015 #17
That will make the Republicans very angry! jen1980 Jan 2015 #29
I love to make republicans angry, but I really don't think cbayer Jan 2015 #34
But they do support corporations that import cheap products made by slaves pnwmom Jan 2015 #69
Ok, that's a good point. cbayer Jan 2015 #71
This is the line I was referring to: pnwmom Jan 2015 #74
I see what you are saying and what I hope the person I was responding to was expressing. cbayer Jan 2015 #75
Might help if the slavers and human smugglers were good Catholics, mr blur Jan 2015 #79
He also confirms his anti-gay, homophobic bigotry. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #86
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