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In reply to the discussion: New York Archdiocese Appears Likely to Shutter More Churches [View all]Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)131. Is that an increase or a decrease? Because you claimed there was an increase.
Because it doesn't seem to be increasing like you claim:
Two recent studies released almost simultaneously provide more hard evidence that religion is slowly losing its grip on humanity, even in the United States.
First, a report from the University of Chicago called Belief About God Across Time and Countries looked at survey data from 30 countries, reaching as far back as 1991. While many of the news stories about this report focused on figures showing a tendency for numbers of religious believers to increase with age, the figures also showed the overall percentage of religious believers declined in most countries, showing an increase in only three:
the % saying they were atheists increased in 15 of 18 countries from 1991 to 2008 with an average increase of 1.7 percentage points. For 1998 to 2008, atheists grew in 23 of 30 countries for an average gain of 2.3 points. Conversely certain belief in God declined in 14 of 18 countries from 1991 to 2008 with an average decrease of 2.4 points and from 1998 to 2008 loses occurred in 24 of 30 countries for a similar average decline of 2.4 points. Likewise never believing in God rose in 14 of 17 countries from 1991 to 2008 for an average increase of 1.6 points and increased in 20 of 29 countries from 1998 to 2008 by an average gain of 2.2 points.
First, a report from the University of Chicago called Belief About God Across Time and Countries looked at survey data from 30 countries, reaching as far back as 1991. While many of the news stories about this report focused on figures showing a tendency for numbers of religious believers to increase with age, the figures also showed the overall percentage of religious believers declined in most countries, showing an increase in only three:
the % saying they were atheists increased in 15 of 18 countries from 1991 to 2008 with an average increase of 1.7 percentage points. For 1998 to 2008, atheists grew in 23 of 30 countries for an average gain of 2.3 points. Conversely certain belief in God declined in 14 of 18 countries from 1991 to 2008 with an average decrease of 2.4 points and from 1998 to 2008 loses occurred in 24 of 30 countries for a similar average decline of 2.4 points. Likewise never believing in God rose in 14 of 17 countries from 1991 to 2008 for an average increase of 1.6 points and increased in 20 of 29 countries from 1998 to 2008 by an average gain of 2.2 points.
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Well, considering the heft of your opinion upthread, I'd say, easily more than yours.
rug
Dec 2014
#105
I generally find a lot more wisdom in any given church service than I do in internet "debates".
rug
Dec 2014
#36
The point of many people is to make what could be a productive discussion, unproductive.
rug
Dec 2014
#38
I went to link to your top-level material contribution to the moses thread, but I couldn't find it.
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2014
#86
Or perhaps the transfer of one's own desires or emotions to another person.
cleanhippie
Dec 2014
#67
I find people uniformly interested in going to church, do so even if it's a table at the restaraunt
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2014
#123
IMO and I base this on experience and from info from priest friends I know, most of these
hrmjustin
Dec 2014
#59
It seems a reasonable assumption that if they have not been attending for some time...
cleanhippie
Dec 2014
#64
Is that an increase or a decrease? Because you claimed there was an increase.
Goblinmonger
Dec 2014
#131
Give me your number for religious adherents. I'll calculate the 1% for you.
immoderate
Dec 2014
#117
We are going to force the believers to bow down to our AHTISETS ~gods!
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2014
#19