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44. He didn't insult anybody, so ar as I know.

Reply to gcomeau (Reply #43)

Thu Nov 20, 2014, 09:36 PM

Nov 2014

I suspect that you are just making that up.

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FSU Student: It's great that he is unharmed, but this is just stupid. [View all] edhopper Nov 2014 OP

What ever happened is god's will. notrightatall Nov 2014 #1

Yep, this is a really hilarious situation isn't it? cbayer Nov 2014 #6

Wank away. notrightatall Nov 2014 #15

So what about the equally-Christian sports personality on the other team, who LOST the game? Brettongarcia Nov 2014 #127

Funny story about that, Jeff Gordon is one of the greatest stock car drivers of all time. randys1 Nov 2014 #176

Ah, where did you go?? cbayer Dec 2014 #213

Heck cb, he was just mixing it up. marble falls Dec 2014 #214

He was doing much more than that. cbayer Dec 2014 #215

Yeah he was, and he needed to go. marble falls Dec 2014 #216

So what? gcomeau Nov 2014 #22

Yup. That is EXACTLY the problem. Yup yup yup. +1000 DeadLetterOffice Nov 2014 #30

the automatic corollary is; god chose not to save the other victims. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author JDDavis Nov 2014 #100

A quick learner Cartoonist Nov 2014 #169

Practice makes perfect. rug Nov 2014 #195

Hey JDDavis, what's shaking? cbayer Nov 2014 #174

What's your excuse? rug Nov 2014 #194

At it again, cbayer. Feral Child Nov 2014 #106

Will the ones who died say it is God's will? DBoon Nov 2014 #87

Pretty sure their families won't come to that conclusion either. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #91

Well, eerily, some do. trotsky Nov 2014 #110

the creator of the universe is vastly diminished from his former omnipotence. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #2

That's a lot of work do to during football season! arcane1 Nov 2014 #14

So what? It's harmless. cbayer Nov 2014 #3

It is not harmless. DeadLetterOffice Nov 2014 #31

Harmless? If it gives the other victims even a shred of 'why me then' thought, it's not harmless. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #58

You nailed it right there. trotsky Nov 2014 #109

Yes, it is harmless. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #118

If I've been served, it must have been a net shot, because there is no #22 in this thread. cbayer Nov 2014 #146

This 22? DeadLetterOffice Nov 2014 #177

I guess so. Like I said, net shot. cbayer Nov 2014 #178

Not harmless. Now he believes in Magic; pray, and God does it. No need for an education, say. Brettongarcia Nov 2014 #128

Which do you believe is more harmful? stone space Nov 2014 #148

How many people's lives do you think are affected by Republican Christian policies... trotsky Nov 2014 #151

Shit! How would I know how many NRA victims there are out there? stone space Nov 2014 #155

Just pull a number. trotsky Nov 2014 #159

he sure can be a lazy cuss, no? bvf Nov 2014 #4

Do you have a link to support your contention that there is some correlation between maturity cbayer Nov 2014 #7

Actually we discussed this last summer Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #9

OK, then (sigh). bvf Nov 2014 #19

That was an interesting piece, thanks for the link. n/t DeadLetterOffice Nov 2014 #36

You're welcome. bvf Nov 2014 #107

I think you just unintentionally made a really, really good point. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #60

The problem isn't guns. The problem is... stone space Nov 2014 #5

Yeah, how dare he. He must be psychiatrically ill. cbayer Nov 2014 #8

And there is the strawman. Have at it. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #11

Come on, Warren. Is this how... stone space Nov 2014 #16

hmmm... Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #17

I remember a Thanksgiving story. stone space Nov 2014 #20

That was so tortured, Dick Cheney's heart just grew three sizes. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #61

What was tortured? stone space Nov 2014 #64

Using it as an analogy. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #68

What was the miracle? (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #72

Nothing edhopper Nov 2014 #83

There was none. That's the point. It's a small point, should be easy to grasp. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #158

What she meant is immaterial edhopper Nov 2014 #71

What she meant was everything. stone space Nov 2014 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author edhopper Nov 2014 #77

??? (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #84

Now I see what edhopper Nov 2014 #85

I don't know what a "logical context" is. stone space Nov 2014 #103

Nice attempt at at straw man. trotsky Nov 2014 #111

The folks attacking the gun victim are being insulting... stone space Nov 2014 #123

Keep beating that straw man. trotsky Nov 2014 #139

I think the "logical" context is the deliberate insertion of an equivocation delrem Nov 2014 #199

Jesus Manuel Cordova (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #200

yes. nt delrem Nov 2014 #201

It's almost like a tag team. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #120

My problem is that he didn't say 'thank god'... DeadLetterOffice Nov 2014 #179

Good point! NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #183

If he is right, and God saved him edhopper Nov 2014 #184

The implication is obvious. delrem Nov 2014 #198

It's hardly a stretch. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #202

No, it is victims who did not believe strongly enough in God DBoon Nov 2014 #88

This OP is freaking flypaper. It's embarrassing. cbayer Nov 2014 #10

Make sure you clean your feet off. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #12

More like make sure she takes off the hip-waders. cleanhippie Nov 2014 #26

Why? n/t bvf Nov 2014 #21

Wow, just wow!!! cbayer Nov 2014 #89

Do you realize you just replied to yourself? AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #92

Miraculous, wasn't it? Raster Nov 2014 #102

There's a word to describe that sort of behavior. n/t. bvf Nov 2014 #104

Are you OK? trotsky Nov 2014 #112

Will you say a prayer for me, too, pretty please? NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #122

I pray for you at least 6 times a day. cbayer Nov 2014 #145

luckily it wasn't Saturday. rurallib Nov 2014 #13

I lived in South Bend for 5 years irisblue Nov 2014 #54

Why have gun laws edhopper Nov 2014 #18

Stupid Ammosexual Arguement #5,457 (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #24

“That’s what happens when you write impenetrable prose,” he told The Daily News. rug Nov 2014 #23

Great, the right is gonna use this to promote even bigger and heavier books Lordquinton Nov 2014 #175

The NRA thanks you for your support in blaming gun victims. (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #25

How did I blame the victim? edhopper Nov 2014 #27

I think that what you are really doing here is mascurading as an atheist to... stone space Nov 2014 #29

project much? Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #32

Why else would somebody post something like this? stone space Nov 2014 #34

for all the reasons mentioned. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #37

Atheists are not as immoral and unthinking as this thread is trying to paint us. stone space Nov 2014 #42

So basically you've come back to pick up right where you left off. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #52

YEP. 2nd verse, same as the first. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #75

I think that what you're really doing here is totally missing the damn point... DeadLetterOffice Nov 2014 #33

Real atheists aren't like this. That's a myth. (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #35

Wtf are you talking about? DeadLetterOffice Nov 2014 #38

Real atheists don't bash gun victims like this. stone space Nov 2014 #39

NOBODY BASHED THE GUN VICTIM. DeadLetterOffice Nov 2014 #40

Yes, he's being bashed for his religion. stone space Nov 2014 #41

But not in the context of it in any way being his fault he's the victim. gcomeau Nov 2014 #43

He didn't insult anybody, so ar as I know. stone space Nov 2014 #44

Yes he damn well did. gcomeau Nov 2014 #45

He said that? stone space Nov 2014 #46

Are you kidding? gcomeau Nov 2014 #65

OK, so he didn't say that. (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #67

And there it is, gcomeau, just like you predicted... DeadLetterOffice Nov 2014 #73

lol... was writing mine as you posted this. -eom gcomeau Nov 2014 #80

lol -- which is prolly a sign I should walk away from this thread before I stroke out... DeadLetterOffice Nov 2014 #82

And there it is, prediction fulfilled. gcomeau Nov 2014 #76

By IMPLICIT you meam that... stone space Nov 2014 #90

So you have no argument then. Gotcha. -eom gcomeau Nov 2014 #98

Give it a rest. bvf Nov 2014 #99

Atheists don't bash edhopper Nov 2014 #47

Atheists don't bash gun victims like this. No. stone space Nov 2014 #48

Could you link to the rules edhopper Nov 2014 #49

You are no atheist. (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #50

I do not accept the existence of any god edhopper Nov 2014 #51

Oh, stone has been here before... Don't let that low postcount fool you. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #95

When stone hasn't stuck around it's because he's gotten himself an involuntary vacation from DU. trotsky Nov 2014 #113

Attempt #B at the No True Scotsman fallacy. never gonna hit a home run with that whiffle bat. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #94

Nailed it. okasha Nov 2014 #59

No, he's being bashed for his bullshit claim, which is unflattering toward the other victims. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #86

Not a very flattering position for anybody to take. stone space Nov 2014 #97

Then please explain what his position is. Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #116

I simply boiled the claim down to its basic elements. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #131

No, you made up a new position on your own. stone space Nov 2014 #132

It's the INESCAPABLE CONCLUSION of what he said. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #134

It's your position, not his. Own it. (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #136

It's not his words, no. That's why nobody put it in double quotes. But it is a valid paraphrase of AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #137

It is your position. Own it. stone space Nov 2014 #138

No poster in this discussion is atempting to 'attribute those words' to him as a quote, except you. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #141

"fuck you, got mine". stone space Nov 2014 #143

Excuse me, I put that in single quotes. It denotes a paraprhase, not a quote. Modifying that to AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #149

They are your words, and your words only. stone space Nov 2014 #150

Do you know what a paraphrase is? AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #152

In your case, it is a straw man of your own creation. stone space Nov 2014 #154

Getting tired of the bullshit. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #157

Of course it's there. You're ignoring it. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #55

I think you mean simplistic, not simple. stone space Nov 2014 #62

I don't understand how that equates to blaming the kid for gettting shot at? DeadLetterOffice Nov 2014 #63

It doesn't. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #66

I totally do. DeadLetterOffice Nov 2014 #78

OH! Now I understand. Yeah, i'm confused too. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #81

Because he didn't say that. stone space Nov 2014 #93

Ahahahha you are truly incredible. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #96

That's one possible implication, but... TreasonousBastard Nov 2014 #101

I don't think anyone is arguing that the person who said it intended... trotsky Nov 2014 #114

This is much more than a reflex exclamation. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #129

As a gun victim, I think he's learned quite a bit about guns. stone space Nov 2014 #135

He's a victim in status only. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #140

How much does the NRA pay you to say shit like this? stone space Nov 2014 #142

He is a victim of a gun crime. He will count for the FBI UCR. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #144

Really? stone space Nov 2014 #147

IT'S RIGHT THERE IN HIS FUCKING QUOTE. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #156

No it's not stone space Nov 2014 #160

He does, when you realize he's claiming his god saved him, and not the other victims. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #161

You got yours, so fuck 'em. stone space Nov 2014 #162

Another take on this situation exboyfil Nov 2014 #28

This guy is a fucking moron. Books are actually really good at stopping pistol rounds. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #53

Gun nut calling gun victim a fucking moron? WTF??? (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #69

He made a falsifiable claim. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #70

Basically this is exhibit A in what miracles really are; ignorance. Books can stop pistol rounds. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #79

I guess it didn't occur to him that... Kalidurga Nov 2014 #56

As atheists, we need to change the way we respond to school shootings. stone space Nov 2014 #105

Sadly, no one is listening to you bvf Nov 2014 #108

You don't get to declare what atheists should or shouldn't do. n/t trotsky Nov 2014 #115

Yes I do. stone space Nov 2014 #119

LMFAO!!!!! trotsky Nov 2014 #121

Atheists have a right to speak out on this shit. (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #124

They sure do. trotsky Nov 2014 #126

Okay Mr. Mathematics Logician edhopper Nov 2014 #130

I supported you on the Jesuit OP and the gun thing Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #117

It was kind of you to cut a break on that one. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #125

Anything else I need to be doing today? AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #133

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #153

Welcome to the Religion Group PepperFarmerOH cbayer Nov 2014 #163

Curious here... trotsky Nov 2014 #168

Her personal finances are really none of your business. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #192

The only "fringe" in this thread skepticscott Nov 2014 #182

Sorry about your friend, cbayer. trotsky Dec 2014 #226

I like Hatch chilis Brettongarcia Nov 2014 #164

Welcome to DU edhopper Nov 2014 #165

The catholic church has some very anti-democratic/progressive opinions on things like abortion, birt AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #166

Hello PepperFarmerOH! trotsky Nov 2014 #167

ROFLMFAO truebrit71 Nov 2014 #170

Oh, won't someone think of the goats!1! mr blur Nov 2014 #171

That goat only respects one man Heddi Nov 2014 #173

"Previously banned multiple times" muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #180

And yet they were welcomed with open arms skepticscott Nov 2014 #181

By EarlG no less. That was pretty funny. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #203

Oh what a shame. He was getting along so nicely with the God Squad. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #210

God made trees, trees made the paper in the book that saved his life. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #172

He said the books couldn't have done it alone, without divine aid, so no, that's not what he meant. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #204

Perhaps I have missed it in this long thread edhopper Nov 2014 #185

Some believe everything is decided by God beforehand or that God makes things happen hrmjustin Nov 2014 #186

But if someone claims and believes edhopper Nov 2014 #187

It is so hard to answer exceot to say that they just believe this is how it is. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #188

See that's the thing, edhopper Nov 2014 #189

Well faith tends to be personal and people tend to think of it that way. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #190

Thanks edhopper Nov 2014 #191

Yeah it is a good question though. n/t. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #193

thanks edhopper Nov 2014 #208

Mad props for being the first religious apologist to actually address the question in a reasonable AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #206

Choose me!!! Choose me!! cbayer Nov 2014 #196

Yes edhopper Nov 2014 #197

Ah, but that is not the issue. cbayer Nov 2014 #209

I now see what you mean by illogical. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #212

Bah! Rainforestgoddess Dec 2014 #217

I have no idea what a god might or might not be able to do. cbayer Dec 2014 #218

That's pretty disingenuous Rainforestgoddess Dec 2014 #219

I am many things, but not disingenuous. cbayer Dec 2014 #220

urgh Rainforestgoddess Dec 2014 #221

I said urgh too, but probably in a different way than you did. cbayer Dec 2014 #222

urgh again ;) Rainforestgoddess Dec 2014 #223

urgh to you, too. cbayer Dec 2014 #224

I am frustrated because we basically agree with each other Rainforestgoddess Dec 2014 #225

Ok, I see that you are trying to make it lighthearted and I apologize. cbayer Dec 2014 #227

I agree with that too Rainforestgoddess Dec 2014 #228

I will agree that it's a small quibble and glad that we are talking like this as well. cbayer Dec 2014 #229

You've claimed it's illogical. You've not explained in any way, why you made that claim. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #205

Uh what? Your metaphor is not proving the point you think it is proving. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #211

Nice of God to take time out from Turbineguy Nov 2014 #207