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(81,856 posts) Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:33 PM Jul 2014

Religion Host Vacancy [View all]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Renew Deal (a host of the Religion group).

struggle4progress has left us. We need to fill the slot. Pinto has approached the hosts about joining the group on the believer side of things. Please post here if you have another thoughts, suggestions, nominations, etc.

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Religion Host Vacancy [View all] Renew Deal Jul 2014 OP

I second pinto. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #1

The fact that you're framing this as "allies" and enemies skepticscott Jul 2014 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Jul 2014 #4

My apologies. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #5

Why intentionally stack the deck? AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #13

The agreement of hosting here requires two from each side and a neutral poster. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #14

There is nothing openly discoverable about that in the group SOP. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #15

Point taken but there are links to it. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #16

here. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #17

You are entirely correct about this. cbayer Jul 2014 #19

Attack? AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #20

Yes, attack. cbayer Jul 2014 #21

That is not 'going after'. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #24

Also, BULLSHIT the OP made that clear. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #30

I thought "the believer side of things" made the point, but I can cbayer Jul 2014 #31

The point is there is a balance here. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #32

Thank you. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #27

You can't do much better than pinto for help in the forum. NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #2

I wholly support pinto. longship Jul 2014 #6

I think we can go host-less Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #7

No host? Does that mean no SOP? longship Jul 2014 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author mr blur Jul 2014 #33

no - it means SOP alerts, which almost never happen, would go to the admins. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #39

But the hosting in this room is fine. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #40

Until it comes time to add a new host, then it is not so fine. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #41

Do you not like the current agreement or you don't like host election threads? hrmjustin Jul 2014 #42

You do recall that hosting here is so smooth that you felt compelled to resign, right? Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #43

I resigned because I was not suited to it. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #44

You just can't help yourself can you? William769 Jul 2014 #48

Thanks for the personal attacks william, it is always a pleasure to hear from you. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #62

Glad to be of service William769 Jul 2014 #70

In other words, the hosting works fine... longship Jul 2014 #56

The lack of hosting goes just fine. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #65

Ahem! There have been three alerts since I came on board. longship Jul 2014 #67

I'll try one more time and then leave it. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #74

There is no consensus for that in this thread. longship Jul 2014 #76

Well there is no consensus for anything in this thread. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #96

No. We have a hosting agreement. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #97

There is no consensus on that either. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #98

No one is opposed to him. Some of you want to change the hosting agreement but you don't hrmjustin Jul 2014 #99

I made myself quite clear: I am opposed to any new hosts. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #100

I heard you but the election continues because there is no agreement to change the rules. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #101

And? rug Jul 2014 #104

How about this, then. okasha Jul 2014 #105

ROFL!!!! longship Jul 2014 #106

How about you tone it down a little? Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #108

Fine. I agree. longship Jul 2014 #109

We go through it because some of us think it would be a good idea Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #110

And when people disagree you post things like... longship Jul 2014 #111

I never said that. Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #114

That might be because LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #116

Well, in this thread there are six. longship Jul 2014 #118

No I am not saying the minority should get our way LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #121

Okay. That's reasonable, except... longship Jul 2014 #127

I said nonbeliever hosts LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #131

Any discussion must include all, or none. longship Jul 2014 #134

I think a second thread by those wanting to air our grievences might be a good idea. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #135

Glad to see you chiming in, Justin. longship Jul 2014 #136

We all have complaints here but I think they should not be in this thread. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #138

Thank you, my friend. longship Jul 2014 #141

I love filthy athiests! hrmjustin Jul 2014 #143

Love you too Justin Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #190

Very well. LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #137

I will volunteer to start it. longship Jul 2014 #139

Sounds good (nt) LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #140

Well, let me start modify my suggestion just a bit. longship Jul 2014 #144

If you moderate such a thread, you should refrain from making comments like trotsky Jul 2014 #199

I'll be fair. longship Jul 2014 #201

I trust you to be fair. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #202

I think it has, too. okasha Jul 2014 #203

No, longship, your language is what excludes people. trotsky Jul 2014 #217

Gees! longship Jul 2014 #231

No, we're obviously never happy about anything. trotsky Jul 2014 #232

Now you are putting words in my mouth. longship Jul 2014 #233

Oh, kinda like you did to me by saying I wanted to exclude people? trotsky Jul 2014 #234

Apparently you want to exclude me. longship Jul 2014 #235

WRONG. trotsky Jul 2014 #236

Refrain from weighing in heavily? longship Jul 2014 #237

I see you have doubled down on the double standard. trotsky Jul 2014 #238

Three? Name them please. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #239

Tell you what, Justin. I'll make a deal. trotsky Jul 2014 #240

No I am not playing your game. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #241

Nope, no deal. trotsky Jul 2014 #242

You make a claim that is untrue you should at least explain it. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #243

longship made a claim that was untrue and you don't give a fuck. trotsky Jul 2014 #244

Again you won't answer. Maybe you don't really believe your claim. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #245

I believe the answer is blatantly obvious. trotsky Jul 2014 #246

Lol the only thing obvious here is you. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #247

longship made the first false claim. trotsky Jul 2014 #250

Are you seriously giving me a he did it first response? hrmjustin Jul 2014 #251

Yup I sure am. trotsky Jul 2014 #252

So your admitting your wrong but because he said something you didn't like your not retracting hrmjustin Jul 2014 #253

I'm willing to admit I am wrong about my 3 hosts claim... trotsky Jul 2014 #254

No trotsky I don't follow your logic. But I have my answer and that is all I need. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #257

I'll explain: trotsky Jul 2014 #258

Uh no sorry but he is a non-believer. Sorry I don't buy this. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #259

I am not questioning whether he is a non-believer, justin. trotsky Jul 2014 #260

No I am calling you out on your bull! You can dish it out but can't take it. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #261

I've explained myself as best as I could, as honestly as I could, and as sincerely as I could. trotsky Jul 2014 #262

No sorry but I don't buy that either. You are a smart poster who knows how to make an argument and hrmjustin Jul 2014 #263

So you're calling me a liar. trotsky Jul 2014 #265

I am saying you acted like a child today. You made false statments and you said you wouldn't hrmjustin Jul 2014 #266

Again,I've explained myself as best as I could, as honestly as I could, and as sincerely as I could. trotsky Jul 2014 #267

your own words. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #269

Just because he called you on your bullshit doesn't mean he's "non-believer-friendly". rug Jul 2014 #271

And you don't get to make demands on the group. rug Jul 2014 #255

One does not need to be a believer to be a host sympathetic to believers Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #248

He should name them. We have 4 hosts and he is saying 3 are sympathetic to believers. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #249

The converse is also true. rug Jul 2014 #256

Amazing. Absolutely amazing. nt longship Jul 2014 #270

Bad longship! okasha Jul 2014 #272

I naively thought I could help. longship Jul 2014 #273

Sadly, there are posters okasha Jul 2014 #274

That "clusterfuck" of a thread you linked to was locked rug Jul 2014 #132

After being up for a week and having over 500 replies... LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #133

It should have been locked without any replies at all. rug Jul 2014 #161

Stay classy, rug. Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #170

I didnt start that clusterfuck, Goblin, you did. rug Jul 2014 #177

Strange LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #181

If I responded to every abusive post in there it would have been 200 replies. rug Jul 2014 #182

By we, I mean those of us who are advocating no hosts LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #184

If we are going to vote for another partisan host SecularMotion Jul 2014 #119

I doubt the believers and several non believers would agree with removal. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #120

Thanks for the edit SecularMotion Jul 2014 #123

I think there are non on the believer side who would agree to remove him. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #126

I corrected my post. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #130

Justin LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #124

I say this with all respect but we all have to agree. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #125

The post you were replying to LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #128

Oops. I meant the believers. Thanks for the correction. lol. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #129

I definitely think something is going on with the nonbelievers here LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #122

I am a lifelong and very fervent atheist. longship Jul 2014 #183

You can claim whatever you wish SecularMotion Jul 2014 #185

Do you really want to make judgments about people based on their behavior in this thread? rug Jul 2014 #191

Are you saying he is not an Atheist? hrmjustin Jul 2014 #193

If you feel so strongly okasha Jul 2014 #112

A/A is a safe haven Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #115

Sure. okasha Jul 2014 #117

If Religion were a safe haven, I would not argue for no hosts. Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #142

In other words, okasha Jul 2014 #146

Yes, I do. Safe havens are not the same as open groups. Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #156

Two members were banned for a month last year. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #159

A whole year ago Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #164

We can both make arguments on both of them. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #165

And you don't think that would start a shit storm? Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #167

It never caused a storm before. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #169

And you have not given me enough Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #171

And I have no clue why we should fire them. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #179

Wrong. okasha Jul 2014 #163

I have registered no complaints about longship on here Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #166

"...doesn't tolerate deviation from the party line." Rob H. Jul 2014 #145

All that has happened in Religion, too. okasha Jul 2014 #147

I agree. if they think the room should not have hosts then they should try it in AA. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #148

I can't imagine that it would. okasha Jul 2014 #154

Agreed. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #155

Do you not understand the difference between safe havens and open groups? Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #157

I know the difference and you know I do sir. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #158

You are more than entitled to that opinion. Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #160

No they are not but you still could lead by example. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #162

OK, I probably haven't made this clear yet, so here it goes: Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #168

I am host of the ny room and do not expect to ban anyone from there but... hrmjustin Jul 2014 #172

Does it get a lot of trollish behavior that needs banning? Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #173

I can tell you as a member of mirt that religion gets trolls. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #174

Sure it does. MIRT generally takes care of them. Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #176

hosts have alerted me to trolls here in this room. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #178

MIRT is limited to posters under 100 posts. rug Jul 2014 #180

I favor retaining hosts in all groups, too Rob H. Jul 2014 #194

Half the posts there volate Wheaton's Law. rug Jul 2014 #195

Volate? LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #196

I would edit the typo but I'll let it stand as a tribute to pedantry. rug Jul 2014 #197

Which is precisely why hosts are needed in Religion. rug Jul 2014 #175

Empty vessel syndrome. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #188

Scroll down to my last post. longship Jul 2014 #189

Not true. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #68

Yet we have no such "food fights" amongst Religion hosts. longship Jul 2014 #45

The problem is the "opposing teams of hosts". Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #46

Duh! Which is why this thread is here. longship Jul 2014 #51

You forgot the sarcasm smiley. mr blur Jul 2014 #57

It had been much better until recently. rug Jul 2014 #58

If you have an opinion on the issue I would respectfully request that you state it. longship Jul 2014 #59

I don't have an opinion on this host issue. Which is why I didn't state one. mr blur Jul 2014 #83

One small correction. I am a lifelong atheist. longship Jul 2014 #90

Of course you are. So leave out the word "fellow" - the rest still stands. mr blur Jul 2014 #102

I do and have pointed it out ... longship Jul 2014 #113

You're a GD host. rug Jul 2014 #49

He's an excellent poster and will be an excellent host. rug Jul 2014 #8

Pinto has my enthusiastic support. okasha Jul 2014 #9

Not familiar enough with Pinto to vote yah or nay LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #10

Why no hosts? longship Jul 2014 #12

From my understanding from the last host replacement LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #22

I think the current hosting situation has worked really well. cbayer Jul 2014 #23

While it is going smoothly this time LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #72

I think the hosts need to leave their options open. cbayer Jul 2014 #89

Agreed. trotsky Jul 2014 #25

All hosts resign: SOP alerts go to the admins. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #35

We couldn't all agree on this the last time it was asked. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #36

Well we can't all agree on anything, so that is nothing new. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #37

ok. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #38

Another option would be to make all the regulars hosts. ZombieHorde Jul 2014 #55

we would then fight over who is a "regular". Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #64

Civility and discussion? longship Jul 2014 #80

The room could not agree on anew arrangement last time so we stuck with the old system. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #28

Strong support for pinto here. cbayer Jul 2014 #18

Looks like a slam dunk LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #69

I also support Pinto as a host. nt TM99 Jul 2014 #26

Pinto is an excellent choice. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #29

Nobody. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #34

Yup. Same stuff from the same few. longship Jul 2014 #61

My complaint LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #75

Well, your complaint is a valid one, in principle. longship Jul 2014 #78

With only juries, no member can be blocked until five hides. rug Jul 2014 #79

Okay LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #81

Talk to one of the longer-serving hosts, Renew Deal or Zombiehorde, if you want details. rug Jul 2014 #82

Wow. What exactly is the cause of your bizarre obsession? (nt) stone space Jul 2014 #150

Choosing partisan hosts only serves to perpetuate the Great Divide in the Religion group. SecularMotion Jul 2014 #47

Who do you imagine is non-partisan? cbayer Jul 2014 #52

I consider all of the 4 current hosts to be non-partisan. SecularMotion Jul 2014 #60

That's the reason why the current system works longship Jul 2014 #63

I don't know if you're old enough to remember when judges were above politics in our society. SecularMotion Jul 2014 #66

That is more or less what happens anyway. longship Jul 2014 #71

There was never such a time, as far as I know. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #73

I don't deny that there have been partisan rulings throughout history SecularMotion Jul 2014 #77

I think people self identify, just as you and I have. cbayer Jul 2014 #88

I have not posted in this Group for a long time but William769 Jul 2014 #50

You always count, William769. cbayer Jul 2014 #53

Thank you. William769 Jul 2014 #54

I vote for no hosts - hear me out EvolveOrConvolve Jul 2014 #84

Help me understand. longship Jul 2014 #86

I guess I disagree that it works EvolveOrConvolve Jul 2014 #91

Well, your position is a small minority. longship Jul 2014 #93

You are either ignoring the abusive posters that routinely post abusive posts in here rug Jul 2014 #94

I'm a little embarrassed about all of this. And have appropriately stayed out of the discussions. pinto Jul 2014 #85

Seems like you are going to win pretty handidly LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #87

You are an excellent choice and joining a great group. cbayer Jul 2014 #92

You would do a fine job. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #95

I Think You Would Be Excellent For The Post, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #103

I vote no hosts, one main host, or no filling of s4p's space Heddi Jul 2014 #107

+1 Iggo Jul 2014 #198

Here's what's happening. longship Jul 2014 #149

I think pinto has no opposition personally so I personally think renew deal should add him tomorrow. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #151

Alert the media! longship Jul 2014 #152

Just not fox! hrmjustin Jul 2014 #153

You should really step off and allow a neutral host to handle this matter. SecularMotion Jul 2014 #186

I assure you I am very neutral on religion. longship Jul 2014 #187

Why? Your accusation is baseless. rug Jul 2014 #192

But you said upthread that you considered all the present hosts okasha Jul 2014 #200

My opinion has changed SecularMotion Jul 2014 #204

"half the room"? rug Jul 2014 #205

It's math based on okasha Jul 2014 #207

Look, I realize that non-believers hold the majority in here SecularMotion Jul 2014 #208

Well, reading the opinions in this thread on the issue at hand, I've got to say you're wrong. rug Jul 2014 #209

And not all the regular non-believers agree on the question. all of the believers in this room agree hrmjustin Jul 2014 #210

Also true. rug Jul 2014 #211

True. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #212

The fact is there is an agreement in place. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #206

Attempting to change the rules okasha Jul 2014 #213

I hope they close this tomorrow. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #214

I wish they'd closed it okasha Jul 2014 #215

And this is where you make a mistake. cbayer Jul 2014 #216

Oh FFS. trotsky Jul 2014 #218

I wonder if people are talking about the group because they can. Renew Deal Jul 2014 #282

So here's the count to dispel the "small minority" language Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #219

You need consensus to change the rules here and there is none. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #220

There is no consensus to keep hosts either. Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #222

No. The owners of thi site say consensus is needed to do things here. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #223

You do not have consensus to add a new host then Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #224

Yes we do. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #225

How do you possibly have consensus to replace the host vacancy Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #227

Do you agree that absent of a rule change that the rules remain in effect? hrmjustin Jul 2014 #228

No Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #229

I disagree. the rules were agreed to and we have a new host. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #230

Well see here's the issue, GM. trotsky Jul 2014 #221

Au contraire. How does that go? Mock the idea, not the person? rug Jul 2014 #226

Thanks Renew Deal Jul 2014 #281

Im out of town so can't address all the posts I want to LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #264

LMAO! trotsky Jul 2014 #268

I would like to remove myself from consideration as a forum host. pinto Jul 2014 #275

Reconsider. You have near unanimous support. rug Jul 2014 #276

Please reconsider. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #277

Please do reconsider. okasha Jul 2014 #278

Please reconsider. You would be a valuble addition to the team. William769 Jul 2014 #279

Although only an occasional participant on this forum, I hope that you would reconsider LeftishBrit Jul 2014 #280

I never closed this thread because I respect many of the people here. Renew Deal Jul 2014 #283