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okasha

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80. Oh, how thrilled I am

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Wed Jun 18, 2014, 05:09 PM

Jun 2014

that some Miocene under-the-bridge life form thinks that we people of color can "easily learn" rationality.

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Atheism has a big race problem that no one’s talking about [View all] rug Jun 2014 OP

Some atheists have a big race problem intaglio Jun 2014 #1

It's not that simple. It's also a class issue. rug Jun 2014 #2

All of that in spite of Religion. In a heavily Christian country. What's up with that? Brettongarcia Jun 2014 #51

That is anti-Semitic bullshit. rug Jun 2014 #52

Direct quotes from the Bible are anti-Semitic? Brettongarcia Jun 2014 #57

Which explains your edit. rug Jun 2014 #61

On discovering that people over-reacted to the original language Brettongarcia Jun 2014 #64

Intemperate language tends to have that effect. rug Jun 2014 #69

Thankfully, we don't have a "community" Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #32

H'mm in the broadest sense of community intaglio Jun 2014 #47

OK, in the broadest sense. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #73

And WovenGems Jun 2014 #88

True that! There's nothing like a day of rest. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #92

I see this as becoming a non-issue over time for two reasons. cbayer Jun 2014 #3

SETI has a race problem edhopper Jun 2014 #4

Trivializing is a problem. rug Jun 2014 #5

I am trying to decide if i should clarify the point you so easily missed edhopper Jun 2014 #8

I understand the point you were attempting. But you were attempting it by trivializing. rug Jun 2014 #10

read response edhopper Jun 2014 #12

The article is not about Secular Humanism, which tends to have a much more cbayer Jun 2014 #6

Good people edhopper Jun 2014 #7

I agree. cbayer Jun 2014 #9

I think it is myopic of the author edhopper Jun 2014 #11

That is a good point. cbayer Jun 2014 #13

As far as activism edhopper Jun 2014 #14

There is a belief among many that both parts of the religion clause cbayer Jun 2014 #16

True edhopper Jun 2014 #18

Your white male privilege okasha Jun 2014 #15

hee-hee edhopper Jun 2014 #17

Many people don't accept or understand phil89 Jun 2014 #107

And even a group of organized atheists edhopper Jun 2014 #114

"it’s commonly believed that there are no atheists in overwhelmingly Christian black America" AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #19

Thank you edhopper Jun 2014 #20

Here's where you're wrong. rug Jun 2014 #23

Bullshit. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #24

Where have I seen that word before? rug Jun 2014 #25

You're going to see it again too. Think about what you are saying. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #35

It doesn't tell you anything about misogyny, homophobia or church/state separation either. rug Jun 2014 #39

Um, you changed the criteria. You forgot a word there. I think it started with an 'R'. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #41

You'll find it in 42. rug Jun 2014 #43

Recall in post 23 AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #45

The first half of this paragraph is concerning to me. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #37

Let me ask a question... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #31

She's not saying it exists only among atheists. rug Jun 2014 #33

And she's wrong. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #36

No, she's much closer to the truth than you on this. rug Jun 2014 #38

Religious misogyny can be arrived at without religion? AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #40

Sure it can. rug Jun 2014 #42

That makes no sense. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #44

I would also like to point out there can be, and are, homophobic bigots that are atheists. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #46

Another thread trying to link atheism to something that has nothing to do with atheism LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #21

Don't forget to trash this. rug Jun 2014 #22

The only point I am proving LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #26

Are you saying Sikivu Hutchinson is misrepresenting atheism? rug Jun 2014 #27

Why don't you tell him LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #28

Because it's not true. rug Jun 2014 #29

Whaaaaa LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #30

You're old enough to know better so cry baby, cry. rug Jun 2014 #34

I won't cry for you LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #48

It's your party. rug Jun 2014 #53

Actually that song says its "YOUR" party >:) LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #72

Everything ends. rug Jun 2014 #74

Waiting for the end to come LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #75

You need perspective. rug Jun 2014 #76

One two or three point perspective? LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #79

All my life I've been active in the Civil Rights movement Brettongarcia Jun 2014 #49

"There's a lot of self-exclusion in the minority community." rug Jun 2014 #54

You shouldn't say that Rug; that would make Rug a racist Brettongarcia Jun 2014 #58

What does the original statement make Brettongarcia? rug Jun 2014 #60

I hereby clarify: Self-exclusion as well as rejection by the White community plays a role Brettongarcia Jun 2014 #62

Blacks are isolated and poor because of self-exclusion? cbayer Jun 2014 #56

Ever hear black people talking to each other? Brettongarcia Jun 2014 #59

What do you hear when you hear black people talking to each other? cbayer Jun 2014 #63

Anyone who has been deeply active in minority communities knows. Brettongarcia Jun 2014 #65

So the fact that there are still issues to be addressed and resolved cbayer Jun 2014 #66

The author is a woman. Brettongarcia Jun 2014 #67

So what? cbayer Jun 2014 #68

I'm beginning to understand why no one wanted to sit next to him on the bus. rug Jun 2014 #70

This is my takeaway from what is being said. cbayer Jun 2014 #71

Or? We all need to make compromises with each other, to get along. All sides. Brettongarcia Jun 2014 #77

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Oh, how thrilled I am okasha Jun 2014 #80

The birth of rationality for the West, was thought to be a difficult development, even for itself Brettongarcia Jun 2014 #81

This article is deeply offensive, incendiary, and wrong. Brettongarcia Jun 2014 #50

That pretty well describes your responses to her article. rug Jun 2014 #55

From my favorite atheist of color: KamaAina Jun 2014 #82

So do non-stamp collecting... MellowDem Jun 2014 #83

So let me understand you. rug Jun 2014 #84

And it's yet another okasha Jun 2014 #85

It's another atheist redefining atheism to her cause... MellowDem Jun 2014 #89

It's not a race problem. okasha Jun 2014 #90

It's a race problem for society, atheism has nothing to do with it... MellowDem Jun 2014 #94

And all you need is an atheist MLK okasha Jun 2014 #96

All you need is someone to snark at... MellowDem Jun 2014 #99

You poor widdle t'ing. okasha Jun 2014 #102

Keep up the schoolyard attitude... MellowDem Jun 2014 #103

Said the big white boy okasha Jun 2014 #110

Anyone can be a bully... MellowDem Jun 2014 #112

You forgot "uppity." okasha Jun 2014 #116

If you want to be a bully while playing a victim... MellowDem Jun 2014 #122

Sit in front of a mirror okasha Jun 2014 #123

Read your post where you tell me all I need is an atheist MLK... MellowDem Jun 2014 #124

Let me make it crystal clear... MellowDem Jun 2014 #86

"Anyone who says "atheism has a race problem" fundamentally doesn't understand what atheism is" rug Jun 2014 #87

I notice you failed to address a single point... MellowDem Jun 2014 #91

I did. rug Jun 2014 #93

No, you just said it was apologetics for the status quo... MellowDem Jun 2014 #95

Well, I'll give you this. That's a better tack than the start of this subthread. rug Jun 2014 #97

Where does she state how atheism has a race problem? MellowDem Jun 2014 #100

Here: rug Jun 2014 #104

Well she needs to be a lot more precise, because this just makes her wrong... MellowDem Jun 2014 #111

Yes it is an important distinction but not one commonly made. She's not wrong however. rug Jun 2014 #113

She makes it sound like a benefit of atheists stepping up MellowDem Jun 2014 #119

"Black atheists have to form their own group..." okasha Jun 2014 #101

Conservative atheists agree with you... MellowDem Jun 2014 #106

I guess you missed okasha Jun 2014 #117

No, it was painfully clear you were quoting me out of context MellowDem Jun 2014 #120

How can a lack of belief in gods have a race problem? beam me up scottie Jun 2014 #98

Rather than blowing noise read 104. rug Jun 2014 #105

Fact: atheism is defined as the lack of faith in gods, it can not have a race problem. beam me up scottie Jun 2014 #108

Fact: human beings formulate atheism and proceed to organize as such. rug Jun 2014 #109

for·mu·late verb: create or devise methodically; express (an idea) in a concise or systematic way beam me up scottie Jun 2014 #115

non se·qui·tur rug Jun 2014 #118

Doesn't change the fact that the op is ridiculous. beam me up scottie Jun 2014 #121

The only thing ridiculous about it is your reaction to it. rug Jun 2014 #125

Yes. Atheism is markedly white Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #126

Welcome back. rug Jun 2014 #127