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cbayer

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4. Lucien Greaves is a sham and a hoax, but if it's attention he wanted

Mon May 12, 2014, 02:49 PM

May 2014

(and I feel pretty sure that is exactly what he wants), they are handing it to him on a platter.

He should be ignored and marginalized.

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Harvard president calls planned Black Mass 'abhorrent' [View all] SecularMotion May 2014 OP

This is bullshit. How DARE they. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #1

Would you also seek an invitation to a Koran burning? cbayer May 2014 #17

Do you have knowledge that a Bible going to be burned at this event? skepticscott May 2014 #20

If your faith is so weak and pitiful that some people eating crackers or burning a book you dont own AtheistCrusader May 2014 #21

You really might want to look a little closer at what this is all about before you cbayer May 2014 #23

I judge him based on his actions. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #24

Take it up with the 40,000 Harvard students, faculty and alumni that have thus far registered cbayer May 2014 #25

No, I mean the opposition isn't going to burn the place down over it. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #26

And you understand this person's motives based on what exactly? cbayer May 2014 #31

Not sure what to say. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #40

Petition up to 60,000 people who actually do know something about this guy and do cbayer May 2014 #45

I like that you didn't bother addressing anything I said. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #46

Also, I love that you just assume all 60k signatories 'know something about him' beyond AtheistCrusader May 2014 #47

Not to defend the guy on his *other* douchebagger but AtheistCrusader May 2014 #48

And yet YOU claim infallible insight into his true motives skepticscott May 2014 #54

Also, spitting in people's faces is actually assault, so maybe pick a different analogy. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #28

Lol, it's a metaphor. cbayer May 2014 #29

Well, it's a terrible metaphor in this case AtheistCrusader May 2014 #41

As opposed to being associated with a religion phil89 May 2014 #32

Is it a choice of one or the other? cbayer May 2014 #36

The contriversy is over yeoman6987 May 2014 #79

What will they do - drink blood and eat flesh ... intaglio May 2014 #2

I think they should move on. hrmjustin May 2014 #3

Lucien Greaves is a sham and a hoax, but if it's attention he wanted cbayer May 2014 #4

The pope is a sham and a hoax, but if it's attention he wanted Warren Stupidity May 2014 #5

I prefer to think of him as a troll with a purpose. Promethean May 2014 #19

Does that include all 40,000 students, faculty and alumni that have signed cbayer May 2014 #22

Fallacy and insult. Promethean May 2014 #38

It's not an argument from popularity. cbayer May 2014 #42

Oh please. You've talked to all 40,000 of these people skepticscott May 2014 #55

I feel that I owe you an apology. cbayer May 2014 #56

"You just blew all credibility you had" - Warren Stupidity May 2014 #69

I did not mean to make this personal and I apologize. cbayer May 2014 #81

"Challenging privilege is one thing. " mwrguy May 2014 #39

No it doesn't. It's a stunt by a self-promoting shyster. cbayer May 2014 #43

Can he be an asshole AND making a valid point? AtheistCrusader May 2014 #49

Of course. Always beware of false dichotomies. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #63

...^ that 840high May 2014 #57

... Catholics say the intent of such ceremonies is obvious: to mock their rituals and beliefs. struggle4progress May 2014 #6

Some of us think mockery is an appropriate response to crazyness Fumesucker May 2014 #60

Maybe Harvard would offer transfer credit for such activities struggle4progress May 2014 #62

I was raised/educated Catholic and I have no problem with this. Religious pomposity deserves nomorenomore08 May 2014 #64

So that's a reason to stop it? Goblinmonger May 2014 #76

Nobody stopped it. The Club itself said they had not been disallowed use of the pub struggle4progress May 2014 #85

And? Goblinmonger May 2014 #87

Hatred at Harvard struggle4progress May 2014 #7

Statement on 'Black Mass' struggle4progress May 2014 #8

I can't quite tell how upset you are based on your spamming. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #11

OP concerns Harvard President's statement, so I post link to said statement; you call that spam struggle4progress May 2014 #12

Sorry but that was not spamming. hrmjustin May 2014 #13

sorry but it is. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #14

Seems like S4p is posting on topic posts. hrmjustin May 2014 #15

Look up Gish Gallop Lordquinton May 2014 #16

Sorry but his 3 posts are not drowning out the opponent. hrmjustin May 2014 #18

Yeah, not all nice and shit like the eating Jesus and drinking his blood. Iggo May 2014 #9

Do you think that communion is meant to mock or ridicule other members of a community? cbayer May 2014 #10

Or taking pleasure and joy in a human sacrifice. phil89 May 2014 #34

Taking pleasure and joy in human sacrifice? cbayer May 2014 #37

As an external observer... yeah, that's what it looks like. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #44

Yes I meant the Jesus sacrifice phil89 May 2014 #82

Then don't celebrate it. cbayer May 2014 #84

Tha ugly misrepresentation is so far off the mark that the misrepresentation must be deliberate struggle4progress May 2014 #86

What did I say that was untrue? phil89 May 2014 #96

a lot of religious holidays are horrific when examined Lordquinton May 2014 #97

Harvard is known for abhorring stupidity. rug May 2014 #27

Controversial ‘black mass’ moved off Harvard campus struggle4progress May 2014 #30

Unable to find new location, Harvard club drops satanic black mass struggle4progress May 2014 #50

I find it very hard to believe that an institution with 21,000 students can russle up 60,000 muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #98

Dunno. You could be right. Bloomberg reports struggle4progress May 2014 #99

Even if it's 1 in 6, that's still an incredible petition signing rate muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #100

I don't know what would be reasonable to expect struggle4progress May 2014 #101

That's the point - "click here to sign" is what online petitions do muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #102

So you and I agree with many others that online petitions don't have much weight struggle4progress May 2014 #105

While I think this is distasteful..... Swede Atlanta May 2014 #33

The petition from students, faculty and alumni is now up to 60,000 signatories. cbayer May 2014 #35

I want to know why you keep pulling this 'ridiculed victims of sexual abuse card' as if AtheistCrusader May 2014 #59

I have a very strong opinion about repressed memories based on my own personal training and cbayer May 2014 #67

Well shit. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #70

You are correct. During this horrific era, it was the patients who were most harmed. cbayer May 2014 #71

That's true, there were two stages to the backlash. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #72

Many of the victims of this "treatment" had borderline personality disorders. cbayer May 2014 #73

I don't know that it does harm, specifically. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #74

Why are you concerned about christians being in different sects? cbayer May 2014 #75

Well, it's less of a problem today, but AtheistCrusader May 2014 #77

Religious discrimination remains a problem to this day and is aimed at cbayer May 2014 #80

+ a gazillion nomorenomore08 May 2014 #65

They moved it off campus to a nightclub, and then the nightclub said "Not here." MADem May 2014 #51

Black Mass Cancelled Amid Uproar As Cultural Studies Club Withdraws Sponsorship struggle4progress May 2014 #52

Much ado about nothing, at the end of the day. MADem May 2014 #53

What can I say? backscatter712 May 2014 #58

God loves you, He really does Fumesucker May 2014 #61

It got cancelled LostOne4Ever May 2014 #66

Agreed. trotsky May 2014 #68

Good. Sorry that you think this could have been educational and made a great point. cbayer May 2014 #78

The Black Mass Would Have Infuriated The Earliest Harvard Men Vogon_Glory May 2014 #83

I think they should have let them done this. hrmjustin May 2014 #88

They never said they couldn't. cbayer May 2014 #89

Well if the property owners don't want it then that is their right. hrmjustin May 2014 #90

I would agree with you if I thought this was about religious freedom, cbayer May 2014 #91

You are likely right about their motives. hrmjustin May 2014 #92

Fascinating. trotsky May 2014 #93

we are too mundane to understand. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #94

Agreed. trotsky May 2014 #95

Catholic Community and Its Supporters Gather for Prayer and Protest in Face of Black Mass struggle4progress May 2014 #103

Even after Harvard Group Drops Sponsorship, Black Mass Takes Place at Hong Kong struggle4progress May 2014 #104