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Pope Francis: Kids Must Have Moms and Dad [View all] Heddi Apr 2014 OP

It takes a parent to understand parenting... rexcat Apr 2014 #1

Oopsie! This is not going to go over well. longship Apr 2014 #2

Of course it will go over well skepticscott Apr 2014 #3

Some of us were never fooled in the first place. trotsky Apr 2014 #6

I kind of figured that this would be the case. longship Apr 2014 #7

I don't think it will change anytime soon. Increasingly ignored, yes, even by self-defined Catholics pinto Apr 2014 #8

It would be nice too skepticscott Apr 2014 #9

It would be nice too rug Apr 2014 #11

Meanwhile, though - Goacher Apr 2014 #12

Then you should have seen this: rug Apr 2014 #13

Calm down Goacher Apr 2014 #14

Is there a particular reason you asked? rug Apr 2014 #15

Yes Goacher Apr 2014 #18

You didn't answer the question rug, why is that? n/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #16

I did. Read that answer again, slowly this time. rug Apr 2014 #17

OK, so you think the Pope is stating an opinion beyond his expertise... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #42

It takes a village. rug Apr 2014 #50

What is important is how we treat others, that's the most important thing, period Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #53

You've moved from ethical superiority to "I judge, and judge harshly." Logic! rug Apr 2014 #54

I'm sorry that I judge homophobes and misogynists as harshly as I do racists... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #56

I'm sorry you have a need to judge. rug Apr 2014 #57

Let me guess, someone makes a racist joke in your presence, you just laugh along... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #58

No, I say, "You are ethically inferior and I judge you harshly." rug Apr 2014 #59

No, I usually say something like "That's not funny, that's racist" or express... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #60

I'm sorry you have a need to judge. AlbertCat Apr 2014 #83

However, when I decry bigotry from atheists, do you come to my defense? Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2014 #143

Most of the time, the examples of "bigotry" from atheists is us not showing... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #144

But even you admit that at least some of the time, it IS bigotry Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2014 #164

Never claimed otherwise, but 99% of the time, the claims of "bigotry" are pure bullshit. Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #166

Not 99%; maybe half Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2014 #194

Jorge Mario Bergoglio is, in his own words, a bigot. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #43

Feel better now? rug Apr 2014 #48

No, he still holds office over an organization with 1.2bn members or so. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #49

Well, then, what are you going to do about it besides popping off on the internet? rug Apr 2014 #51

I find that pointing out his bigotry is highly useful in many venues. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #55

I think the real question is what are you going to do about it Lordquinton Apr 2014 #133

Since you're complaining, what are you going to do about it? rug Apr 2014 #134

So your totally fine with his comments? Lordquinton Apr 2014 #158

Not at all, but I don't take his predictable remarks, dip a broad brush in them and use them rug Apr 2014 #160

I have not seen what you claim to see Lordquinton Apr 2014 #191

You don't see it because you don't want to see it. rug Apr 2014 #192

So... Goacher Apr 2014 #195

Stop in and see. rug Apr 2014 #196

Nope. Nothing there Goacher Apr 2014 #197

Oh really? rug Apr 2014 #198

Really. Goacher Apr 2014 #199

Yes you are. rug Apr 2014 #200

No need. I have my answer Goacher Apr 2014 #201

See you in 14 months. rug Apr 2014 #202

How about this Goacher Apr 2014 #203

Deal. rug Apr 2014 #204

I'm sorry if I ever called you an anti-catholic crank. nt el_bryanto Apr 2014 #32

Thank you. trotsky Apr 2014 #33

I've been called a bigot for calling Pope Francis a homophobic bigot, I find that... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #40

The classic 'I'm rubber you're glue' defense. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #44

Problem is that then I wonder what the person I'm ignoring is saying, then I would disable it. Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #45

It took a little willpower, that's for sure. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #46

We are all bigots at times Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #136

Take your own advice skepticscott Apr 2014 #138

I don't defend despicable behavior. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #141

Well, except for the whole subthread below skepticscott Apr 2014 #152

Bullshit! Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #154

You are being purposely obtuse as to the influence of the RCC in passing laws in... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #162

Reply #112: "And this has what to do with the RCC?" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #163

No, it was a response to one of our anti-theist members who twists my words to suit his agenda Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #168

Some of us were never fooled in the first place. AlbertCat Apr 2014 #67

Spindoctor LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #4

But... but... he said he wouldn't judge! trotsky Apr 2014 #5

It's OK, that's all sorted now. mr blur Apr 2014 #10

Most unfortunate, but not unexpected. He is the Pope, after all. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #19

Right... MellowDem Apr 2014 #20

You forgot the sarcasm thingy Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #21

I have little to no interest in Catholic policies or "power" Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #22

Catholic policies and power Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #23

No they aren't. They may influence believers, but they are not responsible. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #24

hate propaganda? Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #25

The RCC does not support birth control, never did. Is this news to you? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #27

Horseshit Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #31

They could do as you suggest, or buy their insurance elsewhere Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #35

Some types of birth control are used for more than just preventing pregnancy LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #37

i hope you realize what a ridiculous statement that is Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #74

To start with LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #80

Then please accept my apology. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #81

So you decide if you agree with something Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #95

Nope, but I am prejudiced against intolerants of all kinds. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #100

For the next 2 years, it is very important that my wife not become pregnant. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #71

And you're blaming the RCC if she gets pregnant? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #75

You're talking about an entity that lobbies to prevent access to things like AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #76

And they lost, which is good Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #79

Is it good? I thought that catholic lobbying doesn't affect non-catholics at all... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #89

You are wrong to say that Catholic Church beliefs occur in a vacuum and don't affect others. Arugula Latte Apr 2014 #157

There are only two hospitals left in the Seattle Area that haven't been purchased by the catholics. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #70

And when a Catholic health group takes over yet another independent hospital or clinic? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #34

Yeah, that's pretty fucked up, but it's about business and politics Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #36

This sub-thread is about Catholic policies affecting other people muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #38

And the top six donors against I-1000 in Washington State were all catholic orgs. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #72

build your straw men elsewhere, please Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #39

I agree that individual Catholics (or any other religion) should not be attacked for their personal LeftishBrit Apr 2014 #193

I suspect this is their strategy, since they lost the fight against I-1000. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #82

When the Catholic church buys up the only public hospital in the area Heddi Apr 2014 #64

Heddi, it was SO FUCKING WORTH taking him off ignore for research... trotsky Apr 2014 #92

I took him off Ignore too. What was I thinking? mr blur Apr 2014 #97

You needed a laugh too? trotsky Apr 2014 #103

Well then you probably missed his equating gay marriage with marrying a bicycle or a hamster Heddi Apr 2014 #121

Holy fuck. trotsky Apr 2014 #124

Ah yeah. Um the only people who commented on it Heddi Apr 2014 #126

Classic. n/t trotsky Apr 2014 #127

I am just shocked. n/t trotsky Apr 2014 #128

bra-fucking-vo Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #98

This is the kind of apologetics skepticscott Apr 2014 #65

I agree 100%. How about that? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #69

So you lied in earlier posts that said that non-Catholics are magically immune from... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #88

Really? I said that? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #96

Yes. You did. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #99

Really? Your language comprehension skills appear to be lacking somewhat. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #102

Let's review, then. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #105

I said "they don't affect me", not "effect" Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #107

Oh, I see, you are self centered then, when an LGBT couple can't marry in a country... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #108

And this has what to do with the RCC? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #112

I'm talking about legal prohibitions, don't be purposely obtuse. Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #113

You are the self-centered one - you don't care what the Catholic church does muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #114

I didn't say what you just did, but I do wonder why Starboard Tack expresses so much "concern" Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #116

Do you see how you twisted that Muriel? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #181

Oh, and to answer the question you didn't ask, yes I want the world to adopt my values... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #115

Good for you. We obviously share the same goal Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #179

Holy shit dude Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #117

Oh please. Stop being so silly. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #178

Looks like a jury of your peers, Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #184

It's not even his rhetoric that's the problem skepticscott Apr 2014 #185

Have you seen mr blur lately? rug Apr 2014 #186

You are equating gay marriage with marrying your bicycle or hamster??? LeftishBrit Apr 2014 #172

No, I am not equating it with anything. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #177

Actually I do have a problem with family members getting married... LeftishBrit Apr 2014 #180

Thank you. We agree. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #182

You just equated gay marriage to bestiality. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #175

Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #176

You seem to be having trouble with your dictionary. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #118

No, as you point out "affect" is a verb and "effect" is a noun Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #130

Are you fucking serious? Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #131

They do not affect me Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #135

So when you said previously skepticscott Apr 2014 #90

So its just a figment of our imaginations that many Archdioceses donate to NOM? Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #41

Why do you care, if you are not Catholic? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #66

Some "non-Catholics" actually care skepticscott Apr 2014 #68

If you hadn't lost all credibility long ago, I might take you seriously Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #77

far more interested in attacking people for their beliefs AlbertCat Apr 2014 #85

Oh shut up about credibility Starboard Tack, your disingenuous attacks on PEOPLE are getting old... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #87

That's me, the "oppressor" apologist Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #94

Oh those big mean anti-theists who do NOTHING to try to legally restrict... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #109

Did I say the anti-theists restrict the rights of others? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #110

Earn your respect? Why the fuck would I want to do that? Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #111

And he equates same-sex marriage with marrying a bicycle or a hamster Heddi Apr 2014 #120

Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #123

I know, isn't it amazing. Don't you wish you were so popular? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #125

You really are a sad person skepticscott Apr 2014 #91

Actually, I'm a very happy person. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #93

Ignorance is, as they say, bliss mr blur Apr 2014 #104

I wouldn't know, but I'll take your word for it. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #106

Holy. Fucking. Shit. Do you read your own posts? Do you want me to list the laws and propositions... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #86

It's already been done by me above. He doesn't care Heddi Apr 2014 #122

No, you're not on ignore. I love reading your posts. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #142

Comparing same sex marriage to marrying a hamster is quite a few steps beyond the pale el_bryanto Apr 2014 #205

There is a big difference between Lordquinton Apr 2014 #132

I agree wholeheartedly with your first two paragraphs. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #137

Of course skepticscott Apr 2014 #139

And what experience do you speak from? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #140

Wait one fucking second, you were "in the trenches" when fighting policies the RCC lobbied for... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #145

Thank you..beat me to it skepticscott Apr 2014 #146

Exactly, its not like Proposition 8 hurt anybody! Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #147

Well, it didn't hurt skepticscott Apr 2014 #148

I was in the trenches in Italy Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #149

But that's "about politics", so you didn't care, right? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #150

Obviously, you don't live in the US Muriel. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #155

You think Pope Francis is 'ordinary folk'? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #161

What a crocK! Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #165

You've spent this whole thread defending the Catholic church, and pretending that ordinary members muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #167

Show me one post where I defend the catholic church or any religious organization Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #169

OK: muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #170

I know you can't respond, but another group likes to equate same sex marriage with beatiality Heddi Apr 2014 #188

Funny that none of the scolds skepticscott Apr 2014 #190

And we're back again to skepticscott Apr 2014 #153

I have even less interest in what you have to say about anything, especially my family Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #156

I'm sure you hate the idea of replying with any substance skepticscott Apr 2014 #171

Oh gee. Finally one of his right-wing memes got hidden Heddi Apr 2014 #183

Yes, we saw a former poster here skepticscott Apr 2014 #187

Look what other group thinks that gay marriage is the same as incest and beastiality Heddi Apr 2014 #189

Except you're ignoring very obvious facts Lordquinton Apr 2014 #159

They don't affect me. I am not a Catholic. How do they affect you? Right, they don't. AlbertCat Apr 2014 #84

Not sure why people don't realize that the culture war is over in developed countries eridani Apr 2014 #29

Not to minimize the class struggle, as a socialist it is of importance, the culture war is far... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #47

Look at the polling--opposition to marriage equality is literally dying off eridani Apr 2014 #62

True, but that doesn't mean the legal blocks will fall away at the same rate, in fact... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #63

"We atheists " - snort - Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #174

As opposed to what? A priest? Lint Head Apr 2014 #26

You see, they live within a box of unreality .. what credentials of expertise does he have? YOHABLO Apr 2014 #28

Since I believe esxtended families can be wonderful hollysmom Apr 2014 #30

and the shining armor gets a layer of tarnish rurallib Apr 2014 #52

Correction for the Pope, kids should have loving adults in their lives... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #61

Personally, I try not to shit on single moms and dads, myself. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #73

More Babylonian bulls**t. Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #78

Ha. Back to the faux future. Not so different after all. Smarmie Doofus Apr 2014 #101

OOPS!!! WovenGems Apr 2014 #129

Why doesn't he take that silly pointy hat Politicalboi Apr 2014 #151

Research indicates that children of same-sex couples turn out at least as well, according to all LeftishBrit Apr 2014 #173