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In reply to the discussion: Pope Francis: Kids Must Have Moms and Dad [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(101,415 posts)163. Reply #112: "And this has what to do with the RCC?"
Why would any couple want to marry in a church that doesn't accept them? Makes no sense.
You really look for extreme situations to provide fodder for your hatred of religion. How about if I wanted to marry my bicycle, or my hamster and some church opposed performing the ceremony, would you be there, fighting for my rights?
I'm sorry, but religious rights and gay rights are not the same thing. I support both. Seems like you only support one. I know many gay couples, some who married in church and some at town hall and some couldn't care less about the institution of marriage.
I think your views are self centered. You want the world to adapt to your values, like the vegan who wants everyone to quit eating meat. What a boring world that would be.
You really look for extreme situations to provide fodder for your hatred of religion. How about if I wanted to marry my bicycle, or my hamster and some church opposed performing the ceremony, would you be there, fighting for my rights?
I'm sorry, but religious rights and gay rights are not the same thing. I support both. Seems like you only support one. I know many gay couples, some who married in church and some at town hall and some couldn't care less about the institution of marriage.
I think your views are self centered. You want the world to adapt to your values, like the vegan who wants everyone to quit eating meat. What a boring world that would be.
You tried to pretend that this was about forcing the RC church to marry couples it didn't want to. You are spouting the exact mendacious crap the RC church does. You even spew the far right turds about marrying inanimate objects and animals.
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I don't think it will change anytime soon. Increasingly ignored, yes, even by self-defined Catholics
pinto
Apr 2014
#8
OK, so you think the Pope is stating an opinion beyond his expertise...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#42
What is important is how we treat others, that's the most important thing, period
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#53
I'm sorry that I judge homophobes and misogynists as harshly as I do racists...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#56
Let me guess, someone makes a racist joke in your presence, you just laugh along...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#58
No, I usually say something like "That's not funny, that's racist" or express...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#60
However, when I decry bigotry from atheists, do you come to my defense?
Fortinbras Armstrong
Apr 2014
#143
Most of the time, the examples of "bigotry" from atheists is us not showing...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#144
Never claimed otherwise, but 99% of the time, the claims of "bigotry" are pure bullshit.
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#166
No, he still holds office over an organization with 1.2bn members or so.
AtheistCrusader
Apr 2014
#49
Not at all, but I don't take his predictable remarks, dip a broad brush in them and use them
rug
Apr 2014
#160
I've been called a bigot for calling Pope Francis a homophobic bigot, I find that...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#40
Problem is that then I wonder what the person I'm ignoring is saying, then I would disable it.
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#45
You are being purposely obtuse as to the influence of the RCC in passing laws in...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#162
No, it was a response to one of our anti-theist members who twists my words to suit his agenda
Starboard Tack
Apr 2014
#168
No they aren't. They may influence believers, but they are not responsible.
Starboard Tack
Apr 2014
#24
Some types of birth control are used for more than just preventing pregnancy
LostOne4Ever
Apr 2014
#37
For the next 2 years, it is very important that my wife not become pregnant.
AtheistCrusader
Apr 2014
#71
You're talking about an entity that lobbies to prevent access to things like
AtheistCrusader
Apr 2014
#76
Is it good? I thought that catholic lobbying doesn't affect non-catholics at all...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#89
You are wrong to say that Catholic Church beliefs occur in a vacuum and don't affect others.
Arugula Latte
Apr 2014
#157
There are only two hospitals left in the Seattle Area that haven't been purchased by the catholics.
AtheistCrusader
Apr 2014
#70
And when a Catholic health group takes over yet another independent hospital or clinic?
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2014
#34
And the top six donors against I-1000 in Washington State were all catholic orgs.
AtheistCrusader
Apr 2014
#72
I agree that individual Catholics (or any other religion) should not be attacked for their personal
LeftishBrit
Apr 2014
#193
I suspect this is their strategy, since they lost the fight against I-1000.
AtheistCrusader
Apr 2014
#82
Well then you probably missed his equating gay marriage with marrying a bicycle or a hamster
Heddi
Apr 2014
#121
So you lied in earlier posts that said that non-Catholics are magically immune from...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#88
Really? Your language comprehension skills appear to be lacking somewhat.
Starboard Tack
Apr 2014
#102
Oh, I see, you are self centered then, when an LGBT couple can't marry in a country...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#108
You are the self-centered one - you don't care what the Catholic church does
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2014
#114
I didn't say what you just did, but I do wonder why Starboard Tack expresses so much "concern"
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#116
Oh, and to answer the question you didn't ask, yes I want the world to adopt my values...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#115
So its just a figment of our imaginations that many Archdioceses donate to NOM?
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#41
Oh shut up about credibility Starboard Tack, your disingenuous attacks on PEOPLE are getting old...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#87
Oh those big mean anti-theists who do NOTHING to try to legally restrict...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#109
Holy. Fucking. Shit. Do you read your own posts? Do you want me to list the laws and propositions...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#86
Comparing same sex marriage to marrying a hamster is quite a few steps beyond the pale
el_bryanto
Apr 2014
#205
Wait one fucking second, you were "in the trenches" when fighting policies the RCC lobbied for...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#145
You've spent this whole thread defending the Catholic church, and pretending that ordinary members
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2014
#167
Show me one post where I defend the catholic church or any religious organization
Starboard Tack
Apr 2014
#169
I know you can't respond, but another group likes to equate same sex marriage with beatiality
Heddi
Apr 2014
#188
I have even less interest in what you have to say about anything, especially my family
Starboard Tack
Apr 2014
#156
Look what other group thinks that gay marriage is the same as incest and beastiality
Heddi
Apr 2014
#189
They don't affect me. I am not a Catholic. How do they affect you? Right, they don't.
AlbertCat
Apr 2014
#84
Not sure why people don't realize that the culture war is over in developed countries
eridani
Apr 2014
#29
Not to minimize the class struggle, as a socialist it is of importance, the culture war is far...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#47
True, but that doesn't mean the legal blocks will fall away at the same rate, in fact...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#63
You see, they live within a box of unreality .. what credentials of expertise does he have?
YOHABLO
Apr 2014
#28
Correction for the Pope, kids should have loving adults in their lives...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#61
Research indicates that children of same-sex couples turn out at least as well, according to all
LeftishBrit
Apr 2014
#173