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cbayer

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37. I don't see much point in arguing this much further, but
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 06:09 PM
Dec 2013

far and away the biggest donor for the opposition was the "Coalition" which was an organization comprised of many different interests.

And in looking closely at this initiative, it was really problematic in a number of ways from a medical perspective. While I generally support the right to die, this particular proposal appears to have had a lot of reasonable people voicing reasonable opposition to it (including Martin Sheen, FWIW).

I don't doubt that there were catholic groups opposed to this, I just don't think it's a very good example of your initial premise.

Prop 8, on the other hand, is a good example.

Good info 2naSalit Dec 2013 #1
Hey! What about my peeps? MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #2
Here you go, Manny. rug Dec 2013 #3
Great. Bette Noir Dec 2013 #74
You had a deli? rug Dec 2013 #75
The Jewish people live in the most intelligent places...or they cause the places to be intelligent. BlueJazz Dec 2013 #80
Love this stuff! longship Dec 2013 #4
You have to be of a certain height to be counted. alfredo Dec 2013 #76
Somebody should push the down button on Cruise's elevator shoes. nt longship Dec 2013 #77
Ha! alfredo Dec 2013 #78
Looks like the Catholics versus the Baptists. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #5
Don't worry, we've got them surrounded. rug Dec 2013 #6
lol. I notice that my church is not dominant anywhere in the Us. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #7
Count your blessings. rug Dec 2013 #8
That is true. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #9
naw... annabanana Dec 2013 #65
lol. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #66
No Presbyterians, either.. pangaia Dec 2013 #69
Scots Irish rednecks kinda like it that way. Just sayn'. nt rrneck Dec 2013 #18
Your first map has convinced me that Catholic-bashing is the only way forward struggle4progress Dec 2013 #10
Yeah, look at that Catholic Left Coast. What's up with that? They must be hiding, I seldom see 'em.. freshwest Dec 2013 #11
I have a sarcastic streak which I sometimes fail to control struggle4progress Dec 2013 #12
Hey, I didn't have any problem with your post... Just wondering about the anomaly out here, is all.. freshwest Dec 2013 #13
They pop up whenever an issue hits the fan. I-1000 in Washington. Top ten opposed donors. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #19
This is not accurate. cbayer Dec 2013 #22
Here's the top 6 AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #23
What do you mean "offline"? cbayer Dec 2013 #25
Your browser probably doesn't handle the "_(2008)" at the end of the URL. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #32
I don't see much point in arguing this much further, but cbayer Dec 2013 #37
Martin Sheen is a roman catholic. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #39
Agan, I am supporter of the right to die. cbayer Dec 2013 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #49
Sheen outright lied in those ads. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #50
It works with a text display SecularMotion Dec 2013 #34
Thanks for that. It's a good synopsis of the arguments for and against. cbayer Dec 2013 #48
Latinos. Lots and lots of latinos. cbayer Dec 2013 #20
Latinos make up less than 13% of the population of Oregon. (12.2%) AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #24
On the west coast, and particularly in California, catholic latinos cbayer Dec 2013 #26
I guess I have to repeat myself: Latinos are not a large percentage of the population of Oregon. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #33
Yes, I understand that. cbayer Dec 2013 #38
'The West Coast' does not have a large latino population. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #41
Diversity. Igel Dec 2013 #55
Excellent point. cbayer Dec 2013 #57
funny marym625 Dec 2013 #36
Makes it easy to understand just how homophobia and misogyny are still so rampant here. cleanhippie Dec 2013 #14
And also makes understanding why Christians feel so oppressed. Goblinmonger Dec 2013 #15
What are the 10 biggest fast food chains in the United States? SecularMotion Dec 2013 #16
Where's Blimpy's? rug Dec 2013 #17
Popeyes for me - any day. cbayer Dec 2013 #21
Frightening stuff marym625 Dec 2013 #27
What do you find frightening about it? cbayer Dec 2013 #28
The massive control by religion marym625 Dec 2013 #29
I'm not sure there is anything about this data that speaks about control. cbayer Dec 2013 #31
Semantics marym625 Dec 2013 #35
I think you are very wrong. cbayer Dec 2013 #40
I respectfully disagree marym625 Dec 2013 #42
I agree that there are serious problems with the religious right cbayer Dec 2013 #43
I agree about LGBT marym625 Dec 2013 #45
There have been erosions, that's for sure. cbayer Dec 2013 #46
I find any current strong party marym625 Dec 2013 #51
I have also enjoyed talking with you, marym. cbayer Dec 2013 #52
Most respectful debate I've seen around here in a long time Ishoutandscream2 Dec 2013 #67
I really like your sig line, Isas2. cbayer Dec 2013 #68
You might want to take a look... 3catwoman3 Dec 2013 #54
Thanks marym625 Dec 2013 #56
Damn, JimboBillyBubbaBob Dec 2013 #30
too much not grey everywhere marym625 Dec 2013 #44
Wow, didn't realize Catholics outnumbered Christian/Dutch Reformed here in catbyte Dec 2013 #53
Southern Baptists will heaven05 Dec 2013 #58
IT is still true... less than 1% of yuiyoshida Dec 2013 #59
There should be a reality show about Christian missionaries in North Korea. rug Dec 2013 #60
I am not sure it would be as funny as yuiyoshida Dec 2013 #62
Have you seen The Book of Mormon by any chance? cbayer Dec 2013 #61
Interesting information, but anyone who presents data as circles should be shot, I'm afraid. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2013 #63
A lot of unnecessary freaking VA_Jill Dec 2013 #64
I find it odd how religious affiliation is affected so much by state boundaries. goldent Dec 2013 #70
That's a very good point. Why, indeed? rug Dec 2013 #71
Don't you think Oklahoma is a special case No Vested Interest Dec 2013 #72
Well, you can't really tell how MUCH it's changed from that map Good without a god Dec 2013 #73
That's cool. Dumb Fucks=Red BlueJazz Dec 2013 #79
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