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Starry Messenger

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36. Because part of this group is about decentering whiteness

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:42 PM

Jun 2016

and not attempting to preserve white feelings. By displaying the desire to speak from a perspective that "all is equal" in terms of who leads, or why someone may be better equipped to speak on experiences, your "full awareness" seems short on self-reflection.

To speak of someone "discounting" someones experience because they are white, which is what you are doing, is to misunderstand, profoundly, the discussions in this group. The voices of POC are "discounted" so low in American society, and white voices are "marked-up" constantly, in value.

I made a simple happy comment about what I feel would benefit a left-wing movement in the future, and you are continuing to derail this thread. Why, I can guess.

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The lesson is clear. If you want to lead a political revolution from the left in the US [View all] stevenleser Jun 2016 OP

Not simply a political revolution from the left, guillaumeb Jun 2016 #1

No question, but neither African Americans not Latinos are stupid. They know where the stevenleser Jun 2016 #2

That whole "left" bullshit was a canard. MADem Jun 2016 #3

... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #4

Ah, yes--the horseshoe theory! MADem Jun 2016 #5

well he did provide for jobs in the MIC making war machinery. does that count? nt msongs Jun 2016 #8

He did bring home the Burlington bacon...! MADem Jun 2016 #20

That doesn't seem like a fair critique of his deodorant comment gollygee Jun 2016 #9

My mileage varies. MADem Jun 2016 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author Poincare Jun 2016 #16

You're calling me a racist, a paid poster and a red stater? You enjoy your stay. nt MADem Jun 2016 #18

I think you hurt mercuryblues Jun 2016 #58

I have a few detractors here. MADem Jun 2016 #59

It isn't slander or libel gollygee Jun 2016 #21

How on earth did this post survive a 2-5 jury verdict? It's absolutely nothing but a personal attack Number23 Jun 2016 #23

I'm removing him JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #25

Weaver and Divine admitted not competing in the "southern states" & Sanders lost by over 2 mil votes uponit7771 Jun 2016 #27

Very well-stated, IMO. BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #24

Not always ... he was a risk taker ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #46

LOL, I see what you did there. stevenleser Jun 2016 #47

Ah yes ... BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #50

Credit, where credit is due ... even if it stretches back 50 years ago. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #53

Thanks for refreshing my BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #55

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #26

MADem, I bow to you all american girl Jun 2016 #31

Wow! Beautifully put. Thank you for this. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #51

Yes, I agree. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #6

and you better address all of our issues and concerns Coolest Ranger Jun 2016 #7

I'm hoping next time the leader will come out of the African American/Latino coalition Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #10

So...the messenger matters more than the message? n/t TCJ70 Jun 2016 #30

A) This is the African American group. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #32

A) I'm fully aware of that. Not sure why it matters unless you think I'm out of line for some reason TCJ70 Jun 2016 #34

Because part of this group is about decentering whiteness Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #36

It seems I misinterpreted the purpose of this group...I apologize. TCJ70 Jun 2016 #37

That's not even CLOSE to what Starry said. Number23 Jun 2016 #43

No ... As a Group host I am comfort with the Group's Statement of Purpose ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #48

The message is influenced by the views and biases of the messenger. forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #61

You don't know me or my race. n/t TCJ70 Jun 2016 #62

We can infer it from not knowing the first basic thing about the benefits of diversity. stevenleser Jun 2016 #64

It's people like you Coolest Ranger Jun 2016 #66

Nothing wrong with the messenger looking like a big chunk MADem Jun 2016 #33

Absolutely not... TCJ70 Jun 2016 #35

Or their gender. MADem Jun 2016 #40

yes, like working with BLM and Michelle Alexander MisterP Jun 2016 #11

Somehow, Spike Lee missed the basic tenet of yr wisdom. truedelphi Jun 2016 #12

That's one lesson. Another one Stevepol Jun 2016 #13

You bring up a good point! serbbral Jun 2016 #29

That's true for anyone who wants to win the presidency gollygee Jun 2016 #14

It's not a revolution if you are asking anyone's permission. This is remodeling. jtuck004 Jun 2016 #15

"When it is a revolution, the people will join. Not before." I like that. Well said. Number23 Jun 2016 #22

K&R ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #19

Yes! bravenak Jun 2016 #28

I'm African-American, and I just voted for Bernie in CA noiretextatique Jun 2016 #38

The singular of data is not anecdote. Thanks for wasting our time pretending you dont know stevenleser Jun 2016 #39

Bam!!! Number23 Jun 2016 #45

Thank you, I'm really tired of this nonsense. stevenleser Jun 2016 #63

I wonder who Clarence Thomas voted? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #49

And if you do that as Jesse Jackson wisely did in 1984 and 1988, you will undoubtedly mhatrw Jun 2016 #41

some people have missed that memo MisterP Jun 2016 #42

What does your post have to do with ANYTHING in this OP? Why do you insist on coming into this forum Number23 Jun 2016 #44

Can I block them now? JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #56

Please do!! You know me, I am always trying to "understand" and rationalize Number23 Jun 2016 #57

Poof!!! JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #60

Thank You! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2016 #52

After the theft of the 2000 election WhiteTara Jun 2016 #54

Exactly right, Steven.. I've seen that written more than once Cha Jun 2016 #65