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Response to Dog Gone at Penigma (Reply #35)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:33 PM

36. how about learning current gun laws and comparing them to the Luntz poll

The Luntz poll does, read up on current gun laws. It supports the status quo, before you argue about gun laws, at least learn what current gun laws are.

Castle Doctrine and duty to retreat is an oxymoron. English common law does have a duty to retreat outside the home. While Canada does not have a castle doctrine by statute, it has by common law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Parasiris
Do you understand what castle doctrine means? Do you know what SYG and castle doctrine has been part of US law since the Progressive era? What is civilized about retreating from your home, putting yourself in danger? What is civilized about putting the safety of a sociopath over yours?

Every state that does not provide the requisite information to the NICS data base is controlled by Republicans or prevented from funding that action by Republicans -- that was the intention in the NRA demanding that state participation in the NICS be voluntary.

Every time there is a mass shooting, like Loughner, like James Holmes, gun sales go up. So it makes perfect sense that the NRA doesn't want to stop these mass shootings - it's good for the business they REALLY represent.
Mostly fear of irrational pearl clutchers.

We have record numbers of children killed and injured every year - more than those of the 25 countries most like us combined.
We have far higher numbers of violence by gun crimes than other nations, including both homicides and suicides.
not is not true either. Suicide is independent of means. Many of those countries have higher suicide rates. Are you saying shooting yourself is tragic, but hanging yourself is not?

Walmart alone has had more than one shooting a week this year at their stores -- many of them by people with concealed carry either committing crimes or having accidents. Not only have people been hurt and killed, but many innocent toilets in their mens rooms have been shot (seriously - you guys haven't apparently figured out how to go to the john without an accidental discharge).
have any evidence of this? No, didn't think so.

The typical NRA member is old, white, crabby and flabby. Your board member is a draft dodging felon, who shouldn't own guns.
Not only is that a logical fallacy, it is also racist. You are saying "that organization is bad because most of its members belong to a specific race". That is racist. It is also ageist for the same reason.
Who is the felon? Nugent isn't a convicted felon. If you want to see convicted felons, check out MAIG membership. Not being an NRA member, he isn't my board member.


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